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I heard you make great knives...

Switchblade

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This was the first sentence I read in a DM on Instagram. It came from a soldier, officer in Ft Stewart, who heard another soldier talking about how nice my knives were.
I've only known one guy in Stewart and last I heard he was in Bragg.
I do not know who or how, but I now have a working conversation that will lead to a custom knife, probably a 4" kaiken, subtle, nothing fancy, just enough look to know it is custom made.
FIRE is spreading, how, I do not know.
FATE, thank you or making this happen. I am so stoked!
Someone I have ever met, asking me to make a knife based on someone else's word. This is definitely most humbling!
 
If I want to go HAM, I have to spend around $18k. This will be building a shop so all my equipment can sit where it needs to be instead of dragging it out and in from the garage or basement, a power hammer, so the shop floor must be stable by the forge(this section of course will be gravel). The interior needs a grinder section, and a tooling section, supply storage, supplies, etc.
In order to recover those funds, 100 knives @ $180 each. That is a 36 grit belt, a 80 grit belt, a 220 grit, and 400 grit belt per blade(this is the standard the owner of Boothill over in KY told me while touring his shop.) Scales for 92 knives would be random, but of course purchased from three or four places in bulk at $20 - $40 per set. Pin stock is $20 per 11" with 2 3/4" pieces per blade. I'm done with 1/8" solid pins, they are ugly and pedestrian. Mosaic 1/4" with 1/16" center rod and 5 rods surrounding look very nice, slightly subtle, and far classier than a simple pin. If I am going to forge a 3" to 4" blade, and expect it to bring what I ask for, it has to look good.

My biggest issue would be getting 92 people here to say, I can wait and pay up front. Say 6 or 7per month, email out with randomly numbered spots per buyer. What would I do to entice this? Of the original 92 buyers, each year, maybe quarterly a random person would find a knife in their mail thanking them for their trust.

I have a very solid plan. I know it would work. Banks don't like plans. Most people don't like plans. Right now, I get FIRE out a blade or maybe three at a time, lots of hand work, and knowing I do have a long range plan. My freind over at Boothill, he saus go HAM, take the gamble and see if people trust a Kickstart account or something like that. You set up 100 spots, buyers can buy as many spots as they like. You set up your shop, then start working your designs, your Kickstart design, and you sell blades from $125 up forging every single one. The learning curve is shorter when you are making four or five blades per week or more. Step up your game and make kitchen sets for $450 or higher.

I'm looking at this as objectively as I can. I think it will come down to the day I finally get mad dragging stuff in and out and say enough, and go for it. I want to learn more first though. I am just getting into the sweet spots on my equipment and my blades are looking much nicer.
 
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Asking someone to wait 6 to 7 months for a custom knife is not really anything out of the ordinary.

I have several different knives currently in the waiting stage around that time length.

I've waited almost 3 years for a custom one of a kind light crusader sword.

In the sub $200 range, a lot of folks would probably take the gamble and be willing to wait.
 
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Asking someone to wait 6 to 7 months for a custom knife is not really anything out of the ordinary.

I have several different knives currently in the waiting stage around that time length.

I've waited almost 3 years for a custom one of a kind light crusader sword.

In the sub $200 range, a lot of folks would probably take the gamble and be willing to wait.


Effort and attention to effort requires time itself. Having been an SAA gunsmith (still am) and having worked on projects ranging from machining out a recoil shield to accept a gated conversion cylinder to full checkering of grips and complete retuning of actions for SASS/N-SSA/NCOWS matches, I tend to be extremely respectful to any time demands by an artisan if I need something precision, and custom, made...
 
What steel are you planning to use? I expect you already know the site, but if you haven't checked it out, Bladefourms is a great website and somewhere you can sell your stuff and reach a broad audience. Also a good site to chat with other knife makers.
 
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If you want to turn from hobby to business do it. It's great to enjoy doing your job. In my own experience, years ago a hobby of leather work, turned to a business then turned to a job and I enjoyed it less. But it was still better than working at someone else's business. Good luck.
 
Don't let your love of knive making turn into a job. Have fun with it and take pride in your work. Good luck.
 
My photo stuff will get better. I have black and white board and just need a few items to set it up right. I really should be taking knife photos like I take car photos at meets.
Bender, I do remember a guy named Celt who jumped from one place to his own and went down very fast with broken promises, shame.
The first few blades I will forge will start with Made in USA hay cutter blades. These grind very bright spark and will forge nicely. My guess by the places that make these is either D2 or other notable tool steel. I have seen lesser replacements at Tractor Supply made from 5160 spring steel. TS also sells 5160 flat bars pretty cheap, but I was not interested enough to look at the tag to see if they were US or China. I prefer to work with 1095 after seeing how nice it comes out, but for the first 20 or so knives I forge, repurposed blade steel for solid tough blades.
I want this to grow organically, but I will probably sooner rather than later get to a place where I tire of being slow and not being able to produce enough. A female maker told me, don't worry about that, make one knife with your forge, sell it and do another one. Don't short yourself on what you are making. Look at A, B, C, and D guy's websites, and price your stuff like theirs You have been doing this less time than them, but you have much higher potential becuase you see stuff they don't. Onec I get this anvil, we will see what I make.

Specs: Temperature Cycled tool steel, differential heat treated, 1/4" mosaic pins, wood, G10, or resin handles as I see where each blade takes me.


My inner wannitnow sees a 24 x 40(realistically 18 x 20) shop with benches and a 10 x 18 forge/anvil area. IF I decide one day to say FTW I am setting up this shop just so I do not have to drag stuff in and out as needed, my inner drive will just go HAM and do what I do even more. right now I am controlling that urge by one to three blades at a time. we'll see how these two push daggers come out in the next few days(or if I have to wait for new belts)
 
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Something I wanted to mention in one of your knife threads, but decided not to. You suck at taking photos. Try turning the flash off and adjust lighting. Maybe try taking them outside.

Wow! I haven’t seen any of his photos but you might be right as most people that try to do it themselves just aren’t that good at it and imo shouldn’t be wasting their time trying to get good at it. They should be spending their time doing what they are good at or what they like. @Switchblade if you ever get some knives that you want quality photos of I’d be glad to help you out. No cost to you. I mean if you want to send a blade my way somewhere in the future then that’s cool but I just want to help a brother out. Photography is something I enjoy and product photography is something I’m trying to break into. I’m by no means a pro but some of my stuff has been on some covers of some mags and whatnot for some big companies. I just can’t say which due to NDAs, but if you are interested hit me up. Do you have sheaths that go with your knives? That’s something else that I think some knife makers do not pay enough attention to. Anyways, I hope to see you succeed brother. I’d love to be able to do something like this on the side. Bad thing is with kids and all the other crap I have going on these days, time is what I have the least of.
 
Do you have sheaths that go with your knives?

I make my own kydex sheaths. I have found the best way is a simple 550 loop at the tip. Pull the loop down through belt, slide sheath between belt and trousers, loop 550 over the top of the sheath above the belt, put knife in, tuck, good to go.

Panty 6 has all the stuff for photos, black board, white board, I just need to figure out some 'stuff' to rest the blade on so I can take Blade magazine style photos.
As to my suck photos, here's what he is talking about. Just your basic cell phone, here it is pictures. I should take Super Street, Playboy, Blade time to set up shots, but that is time away from making things, designing things, and playing at making knives ;)
 

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Try taking your pictures against a 15% grey background with an indirect light source, and that should improve things greatly even with a cell phone, then you can move on to the fancy posed pictures.
 
So if anyone followed the thread last fall... Switch put one of his first-ever knives, a Viking Seax, up here for auction. After a bunch of bids, I ended up winning it!

Unfortunately, at the last minute it had an issue or a heat-treat problem or something and Switch e-mailed me in a panic! He had already used the funds to buy supplies and a grinder for his knife enterprise and was in a very bad place... no knife! No funds.

As Switch is a friend, this didn't matter a bit. He said he would make another.... whatever I wanted. And based on what he learned on the Seax... it would be even better! Which was just fine with me! I am patient and the idea was to have one of Switch's 'first' knives (someday when he is famous... it will be worth having!!!)... and to help kickstart Fire Knives and his business, not to have that Seax.

So began a PM back and forth that went something like this: "What do you want me to make you?" "Make me what you want." "But what do you want for a design, shape, handles?" "Surprise me." Finally we agreed that I wanted to take delivery of the work of an artist... his vision. If I wanted my vision, I'd go down to the workshop at Schloss Nitrocellulose and try and make it myself. One trusts the artist... one does not dictate to the artist.

That followed up with several PM's that said "What do you think of this that I started?" "I'm not opening that image." "Here it is ready for scales!" "Don't send me pictures... I want to first see it when I open the package you send me..."

Well, a few weeks go by and then right at Christmas I get the note... "It's done and I am sending it to you!"

*yay*

So on Thursday when I get to the post office... sure enough there is a package from the general area of Bardstown.... and I have my knife.

Get it home because, for some reason, my Jeep knife is not where it should be. And I don't want to open the package with my Jeep Hatchet. And the only knife in my Jeep is the one in a package from Switch. Bad planning on my part.

Drive home... grab a knife and open up the package and inside is this....

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1084 Temp cycled high-carbon... 5" drop point with scissor edge with a ferric acid finish. The scales are stunning in their simplicity.... a hard pine polished to a high-shine and sealed with beeswax. Razor sharp. The sheath is really cool with a stone and a steel built on. Very positive retention and beautifully-executed. I know exactly where this is going... and it's getting strapped to my possibles bag for my next muzzle-loading hunt(s).

The whole package is beautifully executed! More importantly, it is aesthetically beautiful. I have a thing for the Green River pattern knives and the old 'trapper' knives of the mountain men. Probably from watching Jeremiah Johnson too many times. The original survival/combat/utility knives that men like Jim Bridger and the Lewis and Clark adventurers carried when they really made the American frontier... into America. It's a lot like the knife I made myself when I was 15 or so... the difference is that it was made by someone who knew what they were doing.

How Switchblade got into my head, I don't know. But he did! And made me a spectacular piece that I already treasure. Not only because it's beautifully done, but because it's another great example of 'Hide folks pulling together to support one of their own. Because I was not the only one bidding on the Seax to help out 'Switch. Lots of folks were (and are) there for our friend!

So, Switch, thank you! You hit it out of the park, buddy! And I hope that some other folks here will want to take the plunge and order one of Switchblade's early efforts. Because you will love it. And one of these days he'es going to get famous and we won't be able to afford his knives!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
I am humbled, sir! Thank you very much.
I wanted this knife to be kinda like the seax, simple, but very light in hand, sharp, and simple scales that in the sun, show a seriously nice chatoyance.
The scissor edge is for that FIRE STICK. It is not a sharpening stone, but a tool to make fire with. The scissor edge is ground at teh perfect angle to engage knife right hand, fire stick in left and blade drop point at 90* to the stick.

I am currently awaiting more belts for the grinder. I have 1/4" mosaic pins and am ready to make my second forged blade for a GI in Ft Stewart who heard from a guy I make great knives. I'm blown away a guy in Georgia heard good words about what I make. That is awesome.

PS: The issue with the seax was I wanted to make it darker. My chemistry stoichiometry wasn't right. My molar strength was higher and it pitted the back of the blade and took out the base of the edge. A simple, but costly mistake. After a call with my old Chem Professer, she squared me away and I fixed my acid and times to dip.
 
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I am humbled, sir! Thank you very much.
I wanted this knife to be kinda like the seax, simple, but very light in hand, sharp, and simple scales that in the sun, show a seriously nice chatoyance.
The scissor edge is for that FIRE STICK. It is not a sharpening stone, but a tool to make fire with. The scissor edge is ground at teh perfect angle to engage knife right hand, fire stick in left and blade drop point at 90* to the stick.

I am currently awaiting more belts for the grinder. I have 1/4" mosaic pins and am ready to make my second forged blade for a GI in Ft Stewart who heard from a guy I make great knives. I'm blown away a guy in Georgia heard good words about what I make. That is awesome.

PS: The issue with the seax was I wanted to make it darker. My chemistry stoichiometry wasn't right. My molar strength was higher and it pitted the back of the blade and took out the base of the edge. A simple, but costly mistake. After a call with my old Chem Professer, she squared me away and I fixed my acid and times to dip.
I thought that might have been a fire stick... but I didn't want to scratch things up testing it too much. I tried it with another knife, but I think that had a stainless blade, so didn't spark.

Even better!

Great blade and honored to have it!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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Well, after having the customer say he wanted a Harpy, but with more forge scale and dark blade work, we have finally finished the knife. The customer is elated and loves how it looks.

Me, my photo skills are still trash, so here it is anyway.
Forged to shape D2 Steel, differential heat treated. Before handles were applied and final sanding, this blade was stabbed and chopped into bricks with zero distortion or breakage. It shaves.
Scales: Big Island Hawaiian Mango from @hawiaaiantropicalhardwoods, BLO/Beeswax and buffed
Mosaic Cherry Blossom pin. Once I find the 12" tubes, and tiny pin stock, it's black epoxy and that cherry blossom gets a center rod
 

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