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Rifle Scopes Steiner P4Xi 4-16x56 - SCR Riflescope

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Steiner P4Xi 4-16x56 - SCR Riflescope Sale. Reduced to only $799.99



Designed for patrol and tactical operations, the rugged P4Xi scopes offer clear images and a fast-action reticle to tackle every day use or sudden action.



The P4Xi 4-16x56 is a medium range scope with 34mm tube, an illuminated front focal plane Special Competition Reticle (SCR™) and side parallax adjustment.

SCR Reticle
Steiner’s Special Competition Reticle (SCR) is a proprietary reticle designed by Steiner for precision shooting use. An extended illumination area lets the shooter engage targets at long distance even in low light. The vertical crosshair features 1/2-mil marks for distance holdover. The horizontal crosshair offers 1/2-mil and 2/10-mil lines for windage hold-off.
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The windage and elevation knobs are designed for precise adjustment. The dials are calibrated so that 1 click equals 1 cm @ 100 meters or .1 MRAD for the 4-16x.
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Ruggedly constructed scope tubes are milled from solid, high-grade aluminum stock so there are no welds or seams, for greater strength and durability.
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Specs:
Field of View at 100 yds 27.5-6.9
Eye Relief 3.5-4.0
Exit Pupil 14-3.50
Length 14.6 in
Weight 30 oz
Diopter Adjustment Range +2 to -3
Elevation Adjustment Knob .1 mRad
Illumination Control Rotary Dial
Wind/Elevation Click Value 1cm
Elevation Range at 100 m. 30 MIL
Wind Range at 100 m. 16 MIL
Parallax/Focus Side Focus
Parallax/Focus Range 50 yards to infinity
Nitrogen Filled Yes
Lens Cap No
Waterproof/Fogproof Submersible to 33ft
Battery CR2032
Warranty Heritage Warranty
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If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs



Have a great day.

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that I can assist you with please let me know.
Doug
Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com
Cameras,Binoculars, Spotting Scopes, Rifle Scopes | Camera Land NY
Long Islands Largest Camera and Sports Optics Superstore
 
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Hiders...

I really want one of these to get into some local comps on my 308 (600 yds max). My NXS 5.5-22 works fine, But i want to switch to FFP and mils. My questions are about eye box and eye relief.

Above says .5 - 4.0 on eye relief(???). How is the eye relief on min and max power? Will i have to creep up on the stock as i increase magnification? I hated older Leupolds because of this.

How finicky is the eyebox? Easy to get behind? Can anyone compare it to the eyebox on the NXS 5.5-22?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Will
 
WB300 said:
Hiders...

I really want one of these to get into some local comps on my 308 (600 yds max). My NXS 5.5-22 works fine, But i want to switch to FFP and mils. My questions are about eye box and eye relief.

Above says .5 - 4.0 on eye relief(???). How is the eye relief on min and max power? Will i have to creep up on the stock as i increase magnification? I hated older Leupolds because of this.

How finicky is the eyebox? Easy to get behind? Can anyone compare it to the eyebox on the NXS 5.5-22?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Will
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It is a very easy scope to get behind. Eye relief is not finicky on the one I have.

ILya
 
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chavezz556 said:
love that reticle
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It is a very good reticle for precision shooting. It is a little minimalist in terms of space, but that makes it very easy to see what you are doing.

With 0.2 mrad hashes on the horizontal, it is really intended for dialing elevatino and holding for wind. Or at least that is how I am using it.

Another interesting thing to note is that with the reticle being pretty thin, even when illuminated, it does not bloom much at all and it works really well for low light.

ILya
 
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After the overwhelming response to this scope sale at $799.99 over the weekend we have extended this lower price of $799.99 through the end of March or we run out of scopes, whichever comes first.
Thank you for the support of this sale
 
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I just ordered one for me and one for my Brother-in-law. I hope they live up to the billing.
I spoke with Neal and he was very helpful.
 
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Ordered one over the weekend. Gotta get some rings and lense covers. Does anyone know if a sunshade exists for this scope?
 
How would this optic stack up against a Bushnell ERS 3.4-21? I've got a couple of the M series and love them, thinking about selling a ERS which is gathering dust and picking up one of these to try
 
CZSP01 said:
How would this optic stack up against a Bushnell ERS 3.4-21? I've got a couple of the M series and love them, thinking about selling a ERS which is gathering dust and picking up one of these to try
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That is not a simple call. P4Xi is a better low light scope both because of the larger objective and because of very well executed reticle illumination.

ERS does have a tree reticle, so if you need to use the reticle for wind and elevation holds, ERS is a better option. P4Xi is really designed to dial for elevation and hold for wind.

P4Xi turrets do not lock, but they are not likely to shift easily, so I am not sure I'd be too concerned.

Click feel is better on P4Xi, I think.

Image quality during the day is where it really gets tricky. I have seen so much variation with ERS, that I do not know how to make heads or tales out of it. With P4Xi, after initial hiccups, it seems consistent.

If your ERS is one of the good ones, you will see a little better with it during the day simply because of the broader mag range, but in challenging light conditions, P4Xi will edge ahead.

ILya
 
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koshkin said:
That is not a simple call. P4Xi is a better low light scope both because of the larger objective and because of very well executed reticle illumination.

ERS does have a tree reticle, so if you need to use the reticle for wind and elevation holds, ERS is a better option. P4Xi is really designed to dial for elevation and hold for wind.

P4Xi turrets do not lock, but they are not likely to shift easily, so I am not sure I'd be too concerned.

Click feel is better on P4Xi, I think.

Image quality during the day is where it really gets tricky. I have seen so much variation with ERS, that I do not know how to make heads or tales out of it. With P4Xi, after initial hiccups, it seems consistent.

If your ERS is one of the good ones, you will see a little better with it during the day simply because of the broader mag range, but in challenging light conditions, P4Xi will edge ahead.

ILya
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Thanks very much for your reply Ilya
 
koshkin said:
That is not a simple call. P4Xi is a better low light scope both because of the larger objective and because of very well executed reticle illumination.

ERS does have a tree reticle, so if you need to use the reticle for wind and elevation holds, ERS is a better option. P4Xi is really designed to dial for elevation and hold for wind.

P4Xi turrets do not lock, but they are not likely to shift easily, so I am not sure I'd be too concerned.

Click feel is better on P4Xi, I think.

Image quality during the day is where it really gets tricky. I have seen so much variation with ERS, that I do not know how to make heads or tales out of it. With P4Xi, after initial hiccups, it seems consistent.

If your ERS is one of the good ones, you will see a little better with it during the day simply because of the broader mag range, but in challenging light conditions, P4Xi will edge ahead.

ILya
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ILya
How would you compare the Steiner to the burris XTRii. For this price it its hard to pass up. I just recently picked up a RPR in 6creed for my lady I planned on moving an XTRII onto it but this may solve two problems with one optic.
 
Archangel01 said:
ILya
How would you compare the Steiner to the burris XTRii. For this price it its hard to pass up. I just recently picked up a RPR in 6creed for my lady I planned on moving an XTRII onto it but this may solve two problems with one optic.
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Thats a tough one, they both have different strengths. I have the P4XI and a buddy has the XTRII. The resolution and clarity in the Steiner is better but the CA is worse. The XTR has better turrets, I find the Steiner to be a little mushy in colder temps, whereas I think the XTR turrets are cleaner and more pronounces when dialling. The 15 mils per turn on the Steiner is sure nice though. I feel like the Steiner handles mirage better as well. But the XTR ergos I find to be a bit easier. The SCR reticle in the Steiner is not terrible but I think the XTR has better offerings. I think the Steiner does better low light as well.

again it all depends on what you like, I got a deal on my P4XI and it sits on my coyote gun, I can shoot and see further longer than any of my buddies so that helps

If I had to pick again I think I'd go with the Steiner despite the poor turrets just simply from a clarity perspective. That said the CA in this scope shooting over snow is terrible

Edit: I forgot to mention that the reticle is basically useless at minimum magnification on the Steiner
 
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WB300 said:
Does anyone know if a sunshade exists for this scope?
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I didn’t see an answer to this question, so I’ll ask again. @gr8fuldoug do you know if a sunshade exists for the P4Xi? I’m stepping down from an S&B 4-16x42 PMII on my AR and have added the P4Xi to my list of potential replacements, but we get a lot of sun here in AZ and a shade is almost required gear here.

Also, I see a “$50 instant rebate” through the 31st. Is that reflected in the $799.99 price, or does that get knocked off during checkout for a price of $749.99? Thank you!
 
Basher said:
I didn’t see an answer to this question, so I’ll ask again. @gr8fuldoug do you know if a sunshade exists for the P4Xi? I’m stepping down from an S&B 4-16x42 PMII on my AR and have added the P4Xi to my list of potential replacements, but we get a lot of sun here in AZ and a shade is almost required gear here.

Also, I see a “$50 instant rebate” through the 31st. Is that reflected in the $799.99 price, or does that get knocked off during checkout for a price of $749.99? Thank you!
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Steiner does not offer a sunshade for it. I have been checking around for an aftermarket one but so far have not found one.

The scope is $849.99 - $50.00 instant rebate = $799.99 through this Sunday
 
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I see they offer the p4xi in a combo with a scopecoat, but I can't find which scopecoat it is to purchase seperately?

A sunshade would be nice but scope caps are my biggest concern. I'm going to try and see if I can find a set of vortex defender caps that will work.
 
So, hang on a second. The 5-25x56 T5Xi comes with a sunshade, and the P4Xi has a 56mm objective. The T5Xi shade doesn’t fit the P4Xi?? Don’t tell me they used a different thread pitch on the P4Xi, because that would make zero sense!
 
I have a T5Xi 3-15 and the p4xi 4-16 and the material looks much thicker on the p4xi. I'm not entirely sure where the measurement is taken from (ID or OD). I wonder if this is why? Or maybe it would fit but you would have a weird diameter misalignment from the sunshade to the body of the scope?

Then again maybe I'm full of hot air, I need to look at them again, just from what I recall looking at my p4xi last night.
 
Dantrom said:
I have a T5Xi 3-15 and the p4xi 4-16 and the material looks much thicker on the p4xi. I'm not entirely sure where the measurement is taken from (ID or OD). I wonder if this is why? Or maybe it would fit but you would have a weird diameter misalignment from the sunshade to the body of the scope?

Then again maybe I'm full of hot air, I need to look at them again, just from what I recall looking at my p4xi last night.
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Your 3-15x is a 50mm objective, whereas the P4Xi is a 56mm, so yours won’t fit anyway.

I’d imagine Doug would have checked the fit between the two 56mm Steiners already, but you never know...

Just trying to decide if I should spring for the P4Xi, or save a little and try to snag a used or demo 3-15x50 T5Xi. Looking for a hard use AR scope, so part of me is inclined to lean T5Xi if I go with a Steiner. Choices, choices...!
 
Yeah I know my 3-15 is a smaller diameter, I meant the physical thickness if the material, and assumed the 5-25 would have the same dimential structure ( material thickness) as the 3-15.

I'll snap a pic when i get home if Joel or Doug dont clarify before then.
 
The sun shade for the T5Xi 5-25 threads right into the P4Xi 4-16 but has a smaller O.D. then the P4Xi objective bell O.D. It looks funky as hell but it does work in a pinch. Also allows for Tenebreax cover on the objective end.
 
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That's what I was wondering, i assume the material thickness is different making it look goofy. Stepping down in od diameter on the sunshade?
 
Basher said:
Your 3-15x is a 50mm objective, whereas the P4Xi is a 56mm, so yours won’t fit anyway.

I’d imagine Doug would have checked the fit between the two 56mm Steiners already, but you never know...

Just trying to decide if I should spring for the P4Xi, or save a little and try to snag a used or demo 3-15x50 T5Xi. Looking for a hard use AR scope, so part of me is inclined to lean T5Xi if I go with a Steiner. Choices, choices...!
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I have the T5Xi and like it quite a bit, I got the p4xi yesterday and mounted it on an AR and zeroed it and firmiliarized myself with it some.
So far I like it, to compare the two would be kinda tough to say just yet, I really like the T5 and that's why I took a chance on the P4. Image quality seemed pretty equal in my limited time and single outing and conditions to distinguish.
But the t5 definatly has a smaller foot print than the p4 if that matters.
 
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@Dantrom That’s correct. It looks weird but it does the job. Fortunately, I had a T5Xi so I just tried it for shits and grins and it worked. I’ll try to post a picture of it when I get back to the rifle tomorrow.
 
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Just a heads up:

:rolleyes: Of course I tried the shade from a 5-25 T5xi...
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Haha, like I said, I figured you already would have, but I didn’t want to leave that stone unturned (ie. specifically confirmed) before dropping cash.

I’ll think on it some, got a few days left to decide before the P4Xi sale ends. Thanks for your help so far, Doug!
 
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So.... does the sunshade from the T5xi (56mm obj) actually thread on the P4xi or not? Got a yes and a no above. I don't care about how it looks. My range faces SW.
 
Well that doesn’t look that bad at all, I would totally rock that on my AR! However, I can’r seem to find any T5Xi sun shades for sale individually, only M5Xi models... ? Come on, Steiner/Burris, get with the program!

@GeoffatBurris , any way we can order T5Xi sun shades on their own, or any plans for a P4Xi sun shade in the near future?? :)
 
M5Xi/M7Xi 56mm obj. appears to be the same thread pitch as the T5Xi/P4Xi 56 mm obj. The T5Xi sun shade threads right into my M5Xi and M7Xi. The M7Xi & M5Xi both have a smaller objective bell O.D. so the T5Xi sun shade looks to be about the same amout larger than the M5Xi/M7Xi as it does look smaller than the P4Xi.

The M5Xi sun shade will work but the T5Xi would look better.

Edit: Entire post to reflect corrected information. I wasn’t holding my mouth right when I tried threading the T5Xi sunshade into the M7Xi the first go around.
 
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I got my P4Xi mounted a few days ago. The glass seems really nice, I am not too well versed in great glass, but I like it.
The elevation turret is really tight... really tight. Not unusable, but it is very hard to turn compared to my Burris XTR2's.
The magnification is perfect, the windage is perfect. Just like I would expect.
The parallax is disturbingly easy to turn. It hasn't created a problem, but I only have 60 rounds through the new gun with the new scope on it.
I purchased one for my Brother-in-Law at the same time, and that one feels just all around better. His elevation is just a touch stiff, but otherwise everything feels perfect.
Overall I really like the scopes a lot!
 
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Steiner P4Xi 4-16x56 - SCR Riflescope Sale. Reduced to only $799.99



Designed for patrol and tactical operations, the rugged P4Xi scopes offer clear images and a fast-action reticle to tackle every day use or sudden action.



The P4Xi 4-16x56 is a medium range scope with 34mm tube, an illuminated front focal plane Special Competition Reticle (SCR™) and side parallax adjustment.

SCR Reticle
Steiner’s Special Competition Reticle (SCR) is a proprietary reticle designed by Steiner for precision shooting use. An extended illumination area lets the shooter engage targets at long distance even in low light. The vertical crosshair features 1/2-mil marks for distance holdover. The horizontal crosshair offers 1/2-mil and 2/10-mil lines for windage hold-off.
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The windage and elevation knobs are designed for precise adjustment. The dials are calibrated so that 1 click equals 1 cm @ 100 meters or .1 MRAD for the 4-16x.
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Ruggedly constructed scope tubes are milled from solid, high-grade aluminum stock so there are no welds or seams, for greater strength and durability.
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Specs:
Field of View at 100 yds 27.5-6.9
Eye Relief 3.5-4.0
Exit Pupil 14-3.50
Length 14.6 in
Weight 30 oz
Diopter Adjustment Range +2 to -3
Elevation Adjustment Knob .1 mRad
Illumination Control Rotary Dial
Wind/Elevation Click Value 1cm
Elevation Range at 100 m. 30 MIL
Wind Range at 100 m. 16 MIL
Parallax/Focus Side Focus
Parallax/Focus Range 50 yards to infinity
Nitrogen Filled Yes
Lens Cap No
Waterproof/Fogproof Submersible to 33ft
Battery CR2032
Warranty Heritage Warranty
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If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs



Have a great day.

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that I can assist you with please let me know.
Doug
Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com
Cameras,Binoculars, Spotting Scopes, Rifle Scopes | Camera Land NY
Long Islands Largest Camera and Sports Optics Superstore
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Can you confirm these are new production, and not the older model that was halted with issues?
 
awpk03s said:
I can’t find the thread/post anymore, but I know I saw earlier a post from Doug confirming these were new/good to go.
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Cool...yeah I ordered one last night! Great deal on these, even better than my Euro optic discount. These are selling for $899 on optics planet. Seems like pricing is all over the map on the P4X
 
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We basically corned the market on these scopes once the issues from a couple of years ago was corrected. At $799.99, IMO, there is no better buy out there.
We are working closely with Steiner to promote their optics and what better way to do it then to get their optics out into peoples hands?
 
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Anyone know where I can find the subtensions for the reticle in this scope?

In other words, how thick the reticle lines are? .... If I used the wrong term above.

I don't usually prefer reticles that are too thin, and there have been comments that it is thin in this scope.

Thanks
 
CZSP01 said:
How would this optic stack up against a Bushnell ERS 3.4-21? I've got a couple of the M series and love them, thinking about selling a ERS which is gathering dust and picking up one of these to try
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I happen to have both. The Steiner’s eye box is much more forgiving and has a better field of view at 16x. The glass is very comparable but in my opinion the edge goes to Steiner, that’s very subjective though. I like the ERS turrets better, the Steiner’s turrets are very stiff. Magnification range goes to the ERS but above 18x the glass gets a bit dark around the edges. The ERS is much more compact but surprisingly I feel it’s a bit heavier than the Steiner.
If I had to keep only one, I would keep the Steiner.
 
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I posted some of this on another thread but thought I would throw it out there here. After I picked up the P4Xi as a backup scope for one of my backup PRS rifles I built myself up a heavy duty scope tracking fixture. Spent an entire day building it setting it up double and triple checking that everything is square and plum. Since, I have checked every scope I own multiple times for tracking.

So far the SWFA 5-20 HD, Vortex Golden Eagle and the Steiner P4xi are the only scopes that have tracked 100%. My main scope a Gen 1 Razor HD tracks great through 10 mils but is .1mil off at 15MILs.

I'm not much of a glass snob as everyone seems to want to know about glass, glass, glass. As long as I can see the targets I could really don't care too much about how great the glass is. I can see the targets that's all I know and the Steiner for a pretty inexpensive scope just tracks. And that's my main concern in PRS. I just wish it had a max of 20X. I shoot my matches 90%of the time with the Razor at 15X but there are times the 20X is used.

I ran the Steiner up,down,up,down over and over and over and it always went right to zero, 5mils, 10mils, 15 mils. For $799 it's easily worth it.
 
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I happen to have both. The Steiner’s eye box is much more forgiving and has a better field of view at 16x. The glass is very comparable but in my opinion the edge goes to Steiner, that’s very subjective though. I like the ERS turrets better, the Steiner’s turrets are very stiff. Magnification range goes to the ERS but above 18x the glass gets a bit dark around the edges. The ERS is much more compact but surprisingly I feel it’s a bit heavier than the Steiner.
If I had to keep only one, I would keep the Steiner.
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Thanks for the info, would love to grab one but can't seem to get them out of the US now.
 
Just ordered one. I am looking forward to giving this scope a try. It seems promising and a great value at the price.
 
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