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The "Official Shortage Thread"......

Not sure how you guys invest for the future. I firmly believe in diversification. I have a little silver on hand, nothing crazy, and nothing over 1-oz bullion or coins.

Something to think about, you can't eat silver, and no one that's hungry will want to trade for it.

However, failing to plan, is a plan of failure.
 
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Not sure how you guys invest for the future. I firmly believe in diversification. I have a little silver on hand, nothing crazy, and nothing over 1-oz bullion or coins.

Something to think about, you can't eat silver, and no one that's hungry will want to trade for it.

However, failing to plan, is a plan of failure.
We are in agreement.... Looking back at those who settled the West over 200 years ago... What did they bring with them when they joined the wagon train ? Look at the items Lewis and Clark brought. I know, the West was different then, but they still had to survive.
Gather what you think you will need to survive the first couple of die off's...

 
Not exactly a shortage, but something that jumped out at me yesterday. 1 lb of Wal-Mart's store brand turkey lunchmeat for $8. If that is getting that inflated some people just may skip that purchase. What kind of domino effect might this type of thing kick off?

Still noticing reduced choices, reduced package sizing, and the same low spots we have had for months...juice, noodles, tater tots/fries, rice sides, biscuits, and lunchmeat.
 
Not exactly a shortage, but something that jumped out at me yesterday. 1 lb of Wal-Mart's store brand turkey lunchmeat for $8. If that is getting that inflated some people just may skip that purchase. What kind of domino effect might this type of thing kick off?

Still noticing reduced choices, reduced package sizing, and the same low spots we have had for months...juice, noodles, tater tots/fries, rice sides, biscuits, and lunchmeat.
Yep... Seeing the same thing. Had the girl's at the deli slice me some ham last week. I never thought twice about telling them how thick to cut it. Machine has been set on the same number for years. Got home and had to put 2 - 3 slices on my sandwich to make it right. I guess those Mom's with a bunch of kids are slicing the ham and cheese thinner to make food go farther. I remember my Mom doing that 60 years ago.... I ate my share of Vienna Sausage and cracker's too....
 
More and more I am hearing about food shortage. All I know to do is to plant a little more. Just rolled in with this tiller. Members of the "Poor's" can't be paying retail for new implements. Gettin' too old to do much more shovel and hoe work.
 

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Well worded, probably some propaganda in it... We will see.
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On Monday, 14 March, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned of a “hurricane of hunger and a meltdown of the global food system” in the wake of the crisis in Ukraine.

 
Thought provoking article. There is certainly a lot of silver around. Could just be a supply chain issue, hoarding or mining / refining.


People are "hoarding" for a reason. With rampant printing of money and ongoing government frauds and scandals' being covered up by the media people are expecting trouble. I'm not a prepper, but I long ago stopped running out of things. From canned goods, to dry goods, clothing, shoes, oil, gas and diesel for my tractor I just expect to have 60 days worth anymore.

Socialism is a political system based on failure, shortage, stupidity, envy, greed and hate. These people have been in power less than 18 months and have created false shortages of vehicles, food, toilet paper, housing, fuel, energy, medicines, hospital beds, medical care, lumber, appliances, seafood and now precious metals.

If they can destroy America before November, then they have destroyed the best country on earth in two short years. One more election to defraud the country and we are done. Our enemies are in DC.
 
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Well worded, probably some propaganda in it... We will see.
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On Monday, 14 March, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned of a “hurricane of hunger and a meltdown of the global food system” in the wake of the crisis in Ukraine.


Can someone explain what they (Ukraine and/or Russia) did or how they can affect the world food supply? I don't get it.
 
Ukraine and Russia export wheat. The Russians are number one in wheat exports in the world. In 2020 Russia exported 39 million tons, the US 25 million tons. Add that to the fact this years crop yields are going to be down more than likely and you have the beginning of a large problem. Fertilizer and pesticide shortages plus huge cost increases started the problem, but the interruption in wheat exports for Russia and Ukraine should put a dent in things too.
 
Something to think about, you can't eat silver,
Not exactly the same thing, but colloidal silver is making a comeback not only in wound care but orally in infectious diseases and not a bad idea to have on hand in SHTF scenario.
 
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Russia also exports a lot of fertilizer and provides gas to a German company that uses gas to manufacturer fertilizer. Both are now shutdown. China knowing this was coming, banned export of a fertilizer last year.
 
Went to the local Stihl dealer and they finally had a few saws in stock. They told me they can't get maintenance parts and certain model bars. Said they weren't sure when the next saws would be coming in or how many they'd get and they only had a few on hand. Don't know about you all but I don't want to cut firewood by hand. Ended up buying an MS661C and whatever extra parts they did have on hand to be my new primary saw over my old MS311. Then I promptly put it to work. My goal is to get up as much wood as possible this year.

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Btw, the saw is amazing. Never had one run through wood so effortlessly. Only took about 45 minutes to zip through this 12" ash and 8" maple.
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Things are comin' back around:
“For the first time, this generation is going to go into a store and not be able to get what they want,” Kapito said at conference held in Austin by the Texas Independent Producers and Royalty Owners Association. “And we have a very entitled generation that has never had to sacrifice.”
 
Things are comin' back around:
“For the first time, this generation is going to go into a store and not be able to get what they want,” Kapito said at conference held in Austin by the Texas Independent Producers and Royalty Owners Association. “And we have a very entitled generation that has never had to sacrifice.”
Yeah, it’s going to be interesting.
 
Yeah, it’s going to be interesting.
Interesting hell......... Don't gloss it over..... We will be seein' grown men cryin'....
Now I am hearing from parents who are still paying on "Student Loans" and have their children in college running up student loans of their own that they will never pay off.....
 

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Interesting hell......... Don't gloss it over..... We will be seein' grown men cryin'....
Now I am hearing from parents who are still paying on "Student Loans" and have their children in college running up student loans of their own that they will never pay off.....
Definitely not glossing it over.
 
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I needed some bolts today for my tractor implements. Went to my local Murdocks farm supply store. They sell bolts and nuts by the pound
($2.49 / lb)... Bins lining an entire wall and most were empty. Especially the size bolts farmers need for equipment... Like 1/2' x 2- 1/2" bolts or similar lengths. The help never came right out and said it but they hinted that they may not restock bolts, nuts and washers. After getting my stuff going I think it's best to go back and buy up some common size nuts and bolts. I've used my stock up in my shop.
 
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Unfortunately, most of the fasteners now are made in China. Very few still made in the USA, and those that are are more specialized, smaller sizes, etc.
 
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Unfortunately, most of the fasteners now are made in China. Very few still made in the USA, and those that are are more specialized, smaller sizes, etc.

I picked up a dozen + galvanized carriage bolts, nuts, & washers at the local HD. Got home and not a single bolt was in spec enough you could get a nut on it. NONE. You couldn't get a nut on holding it with a pair or pliers and a wrench. All made in china.
 
The Mississippi River transports 60% of American corn and soybean exports to market. The massive barges that ply America’s waterways are more cost-effective than any other form of transportation, and also play a role in getting vital inputs to growers.
And yet, much of the infrastructure that makes this possible hasn’t been updated since the 1930s

 
Looming worldwide food crisis.

No problem = WTO's director general, Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, is worried that a food crisis is brewing. Total Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Net Worth in 2021 $1 Million – $5 Million (Approx.)



 
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Unfortunately, most of the fasteners now are made in China. Very few still made in the USA, and those that are are more specialized, smaller sizes, etc.
I agree..... But the day will come when a man can't get a bolt, at any price. Then a China bolt will help the man to get by... Many think they will never see that day. They thought the same about ammo.
 
Only 30% of America’s winter-wheat crop is in good or excellent condition, the Department of Agriculture said Monday in its first national ratings of the year. That’s the lowest score for this point in the season in data spanning three decades. Parts of Europe are also facing spring frosts or snow, according to Paris-based adviser Agritel.

 
Putin said Russia may not provide exports to unfriendly countries, and is already wreaking havoc requiring rubles for payment for energy.
 
Putin said Russia may not provide exports to unfriendly countries, and is already wreaking havoc requiring rubles for payment for energy.
I would say that is not a bad thing........ All countries, including the USA need to stand on their own two feet first........ After that, let the commerce flow.

Get away from the "petro dollar" and go back to a gold standard for the common denominator in commerce trading... Or , just trade commodities straight across the board...
Today wheat is $365 / ton and oil is $101 / barrel.... Trade 3 barrels of oil for a ton of wheat.........
 
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Will add my 2 cents. The Mrs. went to Trader Joe’s to get olive oil. One of the managers checked the availability and said, maybe after the 15th of the month, definitely by the end of the month! This is nuts! Out of olive oi!

We are doing our kitchen as it is way past its due date. Appliances are running at least a 9 month backlog. When we did get our refrigerator, the packing box was perfect, the top was caved in, door handles bent, & glass scratched. Back it went. Got no firm date on a replacement but we have a ‘loaner’ till ours comes in ……. again.

Maxwell
 
Will add my 2 cents. The Mrs. went to Trader Joe’s to get olive oil. One of the managers checked the availability and said, maybe after the 15th of the month, definitely by the end of the month! This is nuts! Out of olive oi!
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We are doing our kitchen as it is way past its due date. Appliances are running at least a 9 month backlog. When we did get our refrigerator, the packing box was perfect, the top was caved in, door handles bent, & glass scratched. Back it went. Got no firm date on a replacement but we have a ‘loaner’ till ours comes in ……. again.

Maxwell
You added much more than 2 cents worth... My hope is that a few of these "Lurker's" that never post anything will simply allow these messages to sink in.
Here are some "Red Flag" phrases to listen up for:

Soft Landing
We are expecting the economy to improve after the first of the year.


The old timer's here have heard these before as recessions get under way. 2022 still has some momentum in it. You won't see starvation in America. You will see hard times in 2023.
Have you ever been on an airplane that made a really hard landing and you felt like your ass was dragging on the runway ? Keep that thought in mind.

Here is the hope I have = "I hope I am wrong".
 
Harvests of some of Ukraine’s most important crops could be cut in half this year, threatening its position as a major exporter and exacerbating already tight global supplies.


 
Warnings are coming pretty regular
 
I can’t remember if it was 2020 or 2021, but I remember a thread about people seeing an unusual amount of dead birds.
 
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Israel supposedly gets half of it's wheat from Ukraine, plus a good portion from Russia.

Here in the United States, we need to stop growing corn to make ethanol, and redirect it to food products.
Corn being made into ethanol has very little effect on supply of food. The dried distiller grains are a by product and that is used to feed animals. So you get the ethanol and the feed. We need workers to slaughter animals and drive trucks. That’s where the shortages are.
 
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Corn being made into ethanol has very little effect on supply of food. The dried distiller grains are a by product and that is used to feed animals. So you get the ethanol and the feed. We need workers to slaughter animals and drive trucks. That’s where the shortages are.
As long as the $$$ printing presses are running wide open and people in America are being paid by the US Government to not work, there will be a shortage of workers. Hunger is a big motivating factor to get a man to go to work to feed himself. Tough love.
 
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Could be related to this also..

P.S. this thread is like a bad car wreck. You know it's all destruction and despair but you can't stop staring.