Fuck me school shooting in Texas

[brianf]

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its incredible how you double down on information...it took you 20 minutes to google irrelevant information again

seems to be common theme with you

must be hard always being the smartest person in the room and then opening the closet door

again, mass shooting of 4+ is not the same as what just happened

keep reading the site not just the first paragraph you quoted and remove gang activity, family, and innocent non target bystanders

 

[Californio]

I volunteered to act as a Conservator for a elderly family member that had been mentally ill their entire lives, the entire Court System that deals with Conservatorships is Fucked Up and Broken. Even after a 5150 and a 5250, it was an uphill battle to get legal control for their own protection, look no further than the legal system.

 

[MadDuner]

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So a trans gets listed in which category?

 

[Badjujuu]

Are mass shootings more frequent under democratic administration?

 

[brianf]

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in case you forgot yours on the way to work

i gave you some extra for the crew

 

[Longshot231]

I had a buddy, passed away from cancer, he had a finance that was carjacked and killed by a 18 year old homeless nut job, the DR gave him Prozac, he flushed the stuff because it made him think of suicide. Dangerous stuff. He went on to marry and have three kids before the grim reaper came a calling.

I was seriously injured in an auto accident a long time ago. The pain was unbearable. So the doctor prescribed the pain killers and sleeping pills.

I experienced nightmares that I could not wake up from. We're talking really demonic stuff that if I provided the details would put chills up your spine.

I stopped taking those drugs and put up with the pain. The doctor agreed and said that I should stop taking them.

I'm not a tough guy but the nightmares were worse than the awful pain that I experienced.

I have talked with other folks who experienced nightmares more horrible than the pain they experienced as a result of their injuries. Like me, they stopped taking the drugs.

I share all this to point out that the psychotropic drugs prescribed to some people cause more harm than good.

 

[MadDuner]

He was wearing body armor and it appears the first ISD officer was unable to take him down before he was able to enter the school.

Uvalde is not a large town. So every agency within a few minutes was likely on scene and after the subject fairly quick.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t take long for a motivated criminal to inflict damage in this scenario.

My tinfoil hat is maybe too tight.... but I still wonder if an alphabet agency didn't somehow provide "it" with $3K worth of weapons, ammo and body armor to go with his meds?

Where does an unemployed 18-yr old mentally unstable kid get this equipment?

 

[Californio]

My tinfoil hat is maybe too tight.... but I still wonder if an alphabet agency didn't somehow provide "it" with $3K worth of weapons, ammo and body armor to go with his meds?

Where does an unemployed 18-yr old mentally unstable kid get this equipment?

Looks new, not a scratch or wear mark on it?

 

[GreenGO Juan]

So how do we know the kid was responsible for all the deaths and responding law officers did not mistakenly kill children and or teachers in the cross fire?

Seems odd that an 18 year old would target an Elementary school. Or was that just a random occurrence that he ended up at the school after the car chase.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Btw as to the meds messing with peoples heads. I have seen plenty of people lose their fucking minds because head shrinkers give them a bunch of pills, they dont need. Professional drug dealers they are!

 

[Feniks Technologies]

My tinfoil hat is maybe too tight.... but I still wonder if an alphabet agency didn't somehow provide "it" with $3K worth of weapons, ammo and body armor to go with his meds?

Where does an unemployed 18-yr old mentally unstable kid get this equipment?

I have no comment to that one way or another as I don’t comment on things I have no direct knowledge of.

Though, it’s pretty common for family members to reinforce bad behavior. And many times financially.

My grandmother reinforced my brother’s substance abuse via turning a blind eye to things or “believing” his stories for needing money for legitimate things.

Happens all the time. Sometimes it’s loaning a credit card for something they didn’t realize was whatever that person bought.



If employing proper critical thinking, one should look at all possibilities. So, if in your mind it’s possible a government entity provided him, then it should be as equally possible he got money from family, stole things and sold them, sold dope, etc etc.

 

[brianf]

I was seriously injured in an auto accident a long time ago. The pain was unbearable. So the doctor prescribed the pain killers and sleeping pills.

I experienced nightmares that I could not wake up from. We're talking really demonic stuff that if I provided the details would put chills up your spine.

I stopped taking those drugs and put up with the pain. The doctor agreed and said that I should stop taking them.

I'm not a tough guy but the nightmares were worse than the awful pain that I experienced.

I have talked with other folks who experienced nightmares more horrible than the pain they experienced as a result of their injuries. Like me, they stopped taking the drugs.

I share all this to point out that the psychotropic drugs prescribed to some people cause more harm than good.

their called vivid dreams

can either be paralyzing fear/ demonic or dreams that are more real than real life but "regular"

also can have what are called "brain zaps" which feels like a shock to the brain "inside"

your course of action was correct

you didnt just stop, you contacted a doctor and came up with a solution

most people arent like you in that respect

 

[tomcatmv]

I cannot imagine your pain. I am sorry.

Thanks man. He was just shy of his 18th birthday and was special needs. Had a seizure in the middle of the night. He was the sweetest most kind person I've ever known. Always smiling hardly ever cried and could never understand why some people are mean.

 

[BytorJr]

their called vivid dreams

can either be paralyzing fear/ demonic or dreams that are more real than real life but "regular"

also can have what are called "brain zaps" which feels like a shock to the brain "inside"

your course of action was correct

you didnt just stop, you contacted a doctor and came up with a solution

most people arent like you in that respect

That was lipitor for me. I stopped taking it. Not to mention it made my back hurt due to tightening all the muscles. I'm still trying to figure out how a coral snake grows to 15 feet long, 1 foot diameter, comes out of a brick wall, and hauls ass when you're running up the stairs and takes you down. That was enough for me right there.

 

[Familydude]

Has it been confirmed he used a rifle or more specifically, an AR, in the actual shootings? Several people seem to have been shot and survived their injuries including grandma.

 

[MadDuner]

I have no comment to that one way or another as I don’t comment on things I have no direct knowledge of.

Though, it’s pretty common for family members to reinforce bad behavior. And many times financially.

My grandmother reinforced my brother’s substance abuse via turning a blind eye to things or “believing” his stories for needing money for legitimate things.

Happens all the time. Sometimes it’s loaning a credit card for something they didn’t realize was whatever that person bought.



If employing proper critical thinking, one should look at all possibilities. So, if in your mind it’s possible a government entity provided him, then it should be as equally possible he got money from family, stole things and sold them, sold dope, etc etc.

The odds of us (the public) finding out the answer to those questions is probably pretty slim.

Like most events reported in the media - there is never enough of the correct and factual information available to come to any truthful conclusion - and the absence of such info leads to speculation. But the reports of alphabet agencies "grooming" mentally incompetent people to turn them into domestic terrorists has certainly influenced my speculations.

 

[BytorJr]

Anybody else note that this is very close (time wise) to the NRA convention in Houston? Koinky Dinky?

Seriously, I had a friend who pointed all this out (things not adding up) at Sandy Hook. I always thought she was a conspiracy theorist until the last 4 years or so. Now, I say nothing is unbelievable the way our psyops is working against COTUS and western civilization in general.

 

[Feniks Technologies]

The odds of us (the public) finding out the answer to those questions is probably pretty slim.

Like most events reported in the media - there is never enough of the correct and factual information available to come to any truthful conclusion - and the absence of such info leads to speculation. But the reports of alphabet agencies "grooming" mentally incompetent people to turn them into domestic terrorists has certainly influenced my speculations.

I’m obviously not the purveyor of all truth and information.

But I can say 100% that most every critical incident I have been involved in and actually know what happened on the ground……

Even when the information was released, people don’t believe it and make up their own story.

I may not have the answers as to what precipitated those incidents, but absolutely knew what happened during and after.

Many people believe whatever narrative aligns with their preconceived ideas. On the left and right side of the aisle.

 

[BytorJr]

I'll bolster my case on the NRA thing with this:

NRA Convention to Include Remarks From Abbott, Cruz Days After Texas School Shooting

Former President Donald Trump was also scheduled to speak at the convention.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Already making this about guns/gun rights and not mental illness!!

 

[Familydude]

I'll bolster my case on the NRA thing with this:

NRA Convention to Include Remarks From Abbott, Cruz Days After Texas School Shooting

Former President Donald Trump was also scheduled to speak at the convention.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Already making this about guns/gun rights and not mental illness!!

Rep. Tenney to Newsmax: Mental Health Real Issue in Shootings, Not Gun Laws

The national mental health crisis is the real factor behind the mass shootings taking place in the United States, not necessarily the nation's gun laws, Rep. Claudia Tenney said in a Newsmax interview on Wednesday.

www.newsmax.com

 

[Feniks Technologies]

I’ve even be on the ground for incidents, and some time later been around other people who weren’t there telling the story.

And it’s just like the telephone game in school. All fucked up.

Now add in several more people, departments/agencies, media outlets, etc.

And before you even factor in the political views on both sides that will manipulate stories……you have a huge problem with factual information getting to the public.

At least not before everyone has made assumptions and claims without information.


So, even if there are times where there was some other involvement or intent, the story was already fucked from jump street before that part is even considered.

 

[MadDuner]

I’m obviously not the purveyor of all truth and information.

But I can say 100% that most every critical incident I have been involved in and actually know what happened on the ground……

Even when the information was released, people don’t believe it and make up their own story.

I may not have the answers as to what precipitated those incidents, but absolutely knew what happened during and after.

Many people believe whatever narrative aligns with their preconceived ideas. On the left and right side of the aisle.

My firsthand experiences and what happened in a few instances - and then hearing the "official" release that was nowhere close to being factual or true may influence my thoughts some.

 

[Feniks Technologies]

Not saying it’s not possible other things happened.

But let’s follow the logic of how he got the rifles.

Anyone saying “how could a broke kid get a rifle?”

Is essentially implying:

-He’s crazy enough to go shoot up people.

-But that it is more logical that he was provided with weapons than he stole things, sold things, manipulated people or family members for money.


Again, it’s possible. But when you break it down, it’s extremely possible he was willing to do things to make money that didn’t involve keep a real job.

I’m sure everyone here can name or point out people who are able to afford things without being employed.

 

[UKDslayer]

A BP agent killed him

How does he get into a shootout outside the school with "professional agents" and they aren't harmed, yet allow him to enter the school? Are we gonna say that's because of he AR or because they weren't trained? And why is border patrol guarding a school?

I heard today he had a fight with grandmother before she was shot over not being able to graduate.

 

[ZiaHunter]

Btw as to the meds messing with peoples heads. I have seen plenty of people lose their fucking minds because head shrinkers give them a bunch of pills, they dont need. Professional drug dealers they are!

This^^^^

These dangerous psychotropic drugs are dispensed to kids like candy. Instead of dealing with behavioral/disciplinary issues in a way previous generations were treated they now prescribe these drugs. It is more than a mere coincidence that these mass shootings by adolescents have coincided with the increased use of these drugs. It gives the left the excuse to push the anti-gun agenda while no one is focusing on the elephant in the room which is big pharma making billions on these drugs. A friend of mine has a Phd in neuroscience and research is centered around brain chemistry. She on numerous occasions stated how dangerous these drugs are and can alter brain chemistry permanently. I am 67 years old and was a handful while in school and thankfully I was brought into line with discipline and my Dad's Sam Brown belt. No doubt if I was in school today they would have tried to put me on a cocktail of these drugs.

 

[Feniks Technologies]

How does he get into a shootout outside the school with "professional agents" and they aren't harmed, yet allow him to enter the school? Are we gonna say that's because of he AR or because they weren't trained? And why is border patrol guarding a school?

I heard today he had a fight with grandmother before she was shot over not being able to graduate.

He exchanged gunfire with a single ISD police officer.

When someone crashes their vehicle into the property, has armor, and is moving very fast into a school……

Does anyone here think they stop that person 10/10 times?

 

[Feniks Technologies]

How does he get into a shootout outside the school with "professional agents" and they aren't harmed, yet allow him to enter the school? Are we gonna say that's because of he AR or because they weren't trained? And why is border patrol guarding a school?

I heard today he had a fight with grandmother before she was shot over not being able to graduate.

You’re also making assumptions Border Patrol was guarding a school.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

How does he get into a shootout outside the school with "professional agents" and they aren't harmed, yet allow him to enter the school? Are we gonna say that's because of he AR or because they weren't trained? And why is border patrol guarding a school?

I heard today he had a fight with grandmother before she was shot over not being able to graduate.

There is a Border Patrol staging area and station right next to the town. When the 911 calls started flooding in, the BP were the only LE agency within range who could get there before all other local LEOs and the BP went into combat mode immediately.

 

[brianf]

This^^^^

These dangerous psychotropic drugs are dispensed to kids like candy. Instead of dealing with behavioral/disciplinary issues in a way previous generations were treated they now prescribe these drugs. It is more than a mere coincidence that these mass shootings by adolescents have coincided with the increased use of these drugs. It gives the left the excuse to push the anti-gun agenda while no one is focusing on the elephant in the room which is big pharma making billions on these drugs. A friend of mine has a Phd in neuroscience and research is centered around brain chemistry. She on numerous occasions stated how dangerous these drugs are and can alter brain chemistry permanently. I am 67 years old and was a handful while in school and thankfully I was brought into line with discipline and my Dad's Sam Brown belt. No doubt if I was in school today they would have tried to put me on a cocktail of these drugs.

you have to be your own advocate in life especially in the medical field

over prescription is issue with out a doubt, but there is a segment of the population that needs meds to leave the bedroom

 

[Longshot231]

Anybody else note that this is very close (time wise) to the NRA convention in Houston? Koinky Dinky?

Seriously, I had a friend who pointed all this out (things not adding up) at Sandy Hook. I always thought she was a conspiracy theorist until the last 4 years or so. Now, I say nothing is unbelievable the way our psyops is working against COTUS and western civilization in general.

The shooting also occurred the day before the Senate was schedule to hold hearings for Poopy Pants' new nominee for ATF Director.

 

[wade2big]

I believe your theory has merit and deserves a thorough investigation by somebody other than the FBI, DOJ, or ATF.
The state of Texas should be looking at this carefully.

Texas won’t. The state gov’t acknowledges an unconstitutional federal gov’t just like the other 49 states. The state gov’t played its part lying about covid, giving out “free money” for safety, all the while using police to crack down on what little liberties a man still has. Don’t be fooled into thinking we have a functional and legal republic. We do not.

 

[Familydude]

It’s my understanding many BP agents have children at that school. If this is true, there’s no question every humanly possible, gut wrenching effort was made to address the shooter.

 

[theLBC]

It’s my understanding many BP agents have children at that school. If this is true, there’s no question every humanly possible, gut wrenching effort was made to address the shooter.

We Now Know Who Stopped the Uvalde Shooter

townhall.com

 

[Feniks Technologies]

Here’s a scenario to consider:

-You’re an ISD cop that guards schools in the area.

-99% of your time is non dangerous things. Speeding, maybe some issues with kids doing illegal things. Etc

-you’re sitting in your car or post. Same as everyday.

-all of a sudden a car enters the grounds hauling ass. You have no idea if it’s a threat, a drunk guy, someone had a stroke

-some dude jumps out with weapons an body armor (that you may not even recognize he’s wearing)

-You have just been inundated with all that info. And now you have a moving target with armor.

-You likely only have immediate access to your duty sidearm.



If anyone here thinks they stop that guy more often than not from getting in that school, I’d be very inclined to question your experience in situations like this.

 

[UKDslayer]

So it was a border control agent that killed him at school but supposedly a rumor was spread that he was being chased by border agent prior to going into the school which they said was not true.

This morning they are going back to this story - that he "shot his way into the school". I guess we need to wait for the "investigation".

 

[Familydude]

If anyone here thinks they stop that guy more often than not from getting in that school, I’d be very inclined to question your experience in situations like this.

^^^^

 

[gimpy]

Fuck you Biden!

I will make a deal with you.

I will give up my semi auto rifles when your security detail gives up theirs's!

Pretty sure they have a happy switch on their stuff…

 

[UKDslayer]

Their parents be damned. Their right to be the proud whelpers of a "Mainstreamed nutcase" ends when those nutcases kill the children of other Americans.

Another shooter from a fatherless home environment.

 

[wade2big]

some things the government will have to be involved in, no matter what we all want

these shootings are usually from mid / late teens, white-ish, single parent homes and a few more common "criteria"

its not, black, hispanic, chinese etc

and more specifically its never women of the same life circumstances

there are just as many messed up teen girls as teen males, and the girls walk right past the same weapon in their dads closet

the govt/school etc have to study how and why they lost that segment of the population...i have my own ideas of course

but, society has created a breeding ground for hatful / resentful white teens for a multitude of reasons and we are now paying the price

this will not go away easy

its a societal change that started in the mid 90's and might take just as long or longer to go away

The shooter wasn’t white. Do you have any thoughts of your own? So far you have sided with the state and its police during the lockdown, want the state to nationalize farming, and now you are pushing the anti-white narrative. These are just what I know of. I would never purchase any of your products and I hope others that are considering reconsider.

 

[UKDslayer]

So this motherfucking 18 year old unemployed incel who lives with his grandmother somehow owns 2 rifles priced at $2000 for the DDM4-V7 and at least $1000 for the other one respectively... And I am supposed to believe that? And on top of that, the FBI has been caught trying to groom and recruit mentally unstable individuals in the recent past for carrying out violent politically motivated acts...

I agree, but the pictures of him in what appears to be his bedroom (not the kitchenette/studio pic) had high interior doors - usually indicates a nicer build house. And he had a car, or access to a car. And yes, the two faces photos to show he definitely had lip filler (not Botox) which isn't cheap either. He was angry about not graduating - maybe his grandmother bought him those for "encouragement" to graduate, and when he didn't the fight happened that starts dit all off? I had a troubled brother in his youth and my parents try to "buy" good behavior (didn't work for him either at the time).

 

[brianf]

The shooter wasn’t white. Do you have any thoughts of your own? So far you have sided with the state and its police during the lockdown, want the state to nationalize farming, and now you are pushing the anti-white narrative. These are just what I know of. I would never purchase any of your products and I hope others that are considering reconsider.

anti-white narrative...the only racist around here is you buddy

do some research not on a tin foil hat website and come back later

 

[_Windrider_]

Here’s a scenario to consider:

-You’re an ISD cop that guards schools in the area.

-99% of your time is non dangerous things. Speeding, maybe some issues with kids doing illegal things. Etc

-you’re sitting in your car or post. Same as everyday.

-all of a sudden a car enters the grounds hauling ass. You have no idea if it’s a threat, a drunk guy, someone had a stroke

-some dude jumps out with weapons an body armor (that you may not even recognize he’s wearing)

-You have just been inundated with all that info. And now you have a moving target with armor.

-You likely only have immediate access to your duty sidearm.



If anyone here thinks they stop that guy more often than not from getting in that school, I’d be very inclined to question your experience in situations like this.

No doubt. But the guy in Florida is still a bitch.

 

[TexPatriot]

My tinfoil hat is maybe too tight.... but I still wonder if an alphabet agency didn't somehow provide "it" with $3K worth of weapons, ammo and body armor to go with his meds?

Where does an unemployed 18-yr old mentally unstable kid get this equipment?

Grandmother's CC?

Wonder what was the reason he killed her? She cut him off?

 

[Feniks Technologies]

No doubt. But the guy in Florida is still a bitch.

The dude that didn’t go in?

Ya, that’s never good.

 

[UKDslayer]

You’re also making assumptions Border Patrol was guarding a school.

Yes, that was on my local (texas) news this morning. Fact will change with these stories. It would make more Sens if it was a "school public safety officer" first, and the border patrol came later.

 

[candyx]

Grandmother dead as well as the shooter does the FBI have a tape of these two fighting or what ever, or are they making up a narrative for the dead people again ?

 

[TexPatriot]

Yes, that was on my local (texas) news this morning. Fact will change with these stories. It would make more Sens if it was a "school public safety officer" first, and the border patrol came later.

Uvaldes not that big and there's a BP headquarters not that far away. It would seem plausible for BP to be first on the scene. I read they sent their tactical team and went in stacked.

 

[Beachhead192]

This school created yet another "Gun-Free Zone".

I don't know if that argument is really applicable in this situation if the allegations I heard are true. Allegedly, the scumbag was already in a gunfight with officers outside of the school before he entered. So, there were already good guys with guns on site before he entered the school.

It seems like in this instance, that if the school just had secure doors this prick wouldn't have gotten in and the kids would be alive today.

 

[tomcatmv]

My next door neighbor is retired mil and his FIL is retired Texas Dept' of Public Safety (don't think he was a Ranger, maybe State Trooper). Any how I'll see if he has any scuttlebutt he could share.

 

[BytorJr]

Here’s a scenario to consider:

-You’re an ISD cop that guards schools in the area.

-99% of your time is non dangerous things. Speeding, maybe some issues with kids doing illegal things. Etc

-you’re sitting in your car or post. Same as everyday.

-all of a sudden a car enters the grounds hauling ass. You have no idea if it’s a threat, a drunk guy, someone had a stroke

-some dude jumps out with weapons an body armor (that you may not even recognize he’s wearing)

-You have just been inundated with all that info. And now you have a moving target with armor.

-You likely only have immediate access to your duty sidearm.



If anyone here thinks they stop that guy more often than not from getting in that school, I’d be very inclined to question your experience in situations like this.

I dont' disagree; but I often wonder say in this scenario with duty sidearm. What if he just fired a shot (hell, even if it was into the ground) and took attention away from evil's primary mission. Would guy have been shot at or would evil still go into school?

Hell, it may even wake the guy up out of his state of mind. Kind of like what Cesar Milan teaches with dogs that get to sniffing or focused only on one thing...that quick tap on the side with knee (or as I did my critter a flick of the finger on his back) will awaken the brain to start processing other information.

Sadly, we'll never know in this case; but even though I have no experience in any live fire (thankfully) in a situation like this; I'd like to think I'd have the balls to engage him even at my detriment if it meant saving 19 souls. I firmly believe engaging evil head on will stop. Evil is, ultimately, a coward.