You mean like the entire earth being covered in water.... something like that...
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Meanwhile Russia is looking to continue to head West.
“Climate Change is our greatest threat to our existence”. Morons.
“Climate Change is our greatest threat to our existence”. Morons.
Oil is everywhere. It'll just keep getting harder to get. Refineries are rare, and require a lot of maintenance to keep pollution controls in place.
Oil accounts for very little power. Natural gas turbines in the oil fields are popping up where pipe-lines are easily accessible, but they're relatively low output.
A vast majority of power still comes from coal. Everyone loves a big tax income from mines and power plants.
We have more oil just in the NW US than all of the middle east if the maps are mostly correct. The only problem we have is that it's miles under the surface and the heat destroys drilling equipment. New stuff like liquid co2 cooling is letting us get deeper cheaper, but it's not mainstream yet.
I think most of the green energy crap is pure pump and dump stock for the politicians.
There was something about the huge display with the range and the miles per kWh. I hated that car. I didn’t care about saving money. I charged it at work for free. I just wanted to make the number higher. I can’t explain it.
I sort of get it. I try to see how high I can maintaine the miles per gallon in my ecodeseil truck...I'm not going without AC though. Of course it's just a shade past hell hot down here with 90% humidity so, you'd die trying to do that
As soon as they can make a light battery so the electric tractors wont bury themselves in the fields. And they can figure out how to not lose power with heavy loads, shortening the distance you can tow a boat or camper or even 80K behind a rig.
You actually want tractors to be heavy.
That's why the bigger ones always have wheel weights and sometimes a large stack of steel weights on the front end.
Not going out in the storm right now....but if you'd like, I can take photos tomorrow of some heavy ass weights on my tractors (yes,plural).
I was referencing directly personal transportation.
Energy in general gen3 and 4 reactors are the way to go.
Any discussion leaving these out is another political stroke job.
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My brother in Germany told me recently EV owners in certain areas over there are not more allowed to charge their EV or plug in HB at home! They are forced to use public charging stations.
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Books I've read postulate everything from a comet strike in the Arctic to a coronal mass ejection.
Edit: I was talking to the geologist on one of the rigs in Prudhoe Bay one time, he said that he has seen wood and bark brought up from 1400 ft underground. You know some wild shit has happened up there, these days the closest tree to Prudhoe is south of the Brooks Range 150 miles away.
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As someone who has spent the last 30 years working in electrical power generation, I can tell you a couple of very important secrets that EV assholes refuse to believe.
1. Putting 125,000,000 electric cars in service will literally cripple the power grid and cause massive rolling blackouts, as it sits today. There is no way in Hell to generate the additional power and most of the major power lines cannot carry it.
2. Windmills and solar cost 3-400% more than every other source of electrical power, once they destroy all of the coal, natural gas, nuclear and hydroelectric power plants in America, expect to get fucked monthly by the power company. Electric cars will be far more expensive than gas to charge, especially if you want a $15-20K three phase power set-up at home.
3. Expect leftists to outright ban personal transportation or severely limit it at some point. The only way this works is if you ride the bus.
4. The way the government works, it takes decades to get upgrades to anything the Fed controls put into service. Buying the cart twenty years before you buy the horse is just stupid.
1. Putting 125,000,000 electric cars in service will literally cripple the power grid and cause massive rolling blackouts, as it sits today. There is no way in Hell to generate the additional power and most of the major power lines cannot carry it.
2. Windmills and solar cost 3-400% more than every other source of electrical power, once they destroy all of the coal, natural gas, nuclear and hydroelectric power plants in America, expect to get fucked monthly by the power company. Electric cars will be far more expensive than gas to charge, especially if you want a $15-20K three phase power set-up at home.
3. Expect leftists to outright ban personal transportation or severely limit it at some point. The only way this works is if you ride the bus.
4. The way the government works, it takes decades to get upgrades to anything the Fed controls put into service. Buying the cart twenty years before you buy the horse is just stupid.
You get used to it, but yeah not recommended.
Ride the bus! That’s funny. There isn’t any bus coming out where I live. but hey I be cool with them saying work from home all the time. Would save me 139 miles a day and no telling what in fuel costs.
Don’t you worry, these fine animals will be “vaxed” away…
If your prediction comes through, we need to at least wrap these vehicles in Stars and Stripes
If your prediction comes through, we need to at least wrap these vehicles in Stars and Stripes
Okay
Expect civil unrest to mount to IRA proportions
I understand that, but the average weight change in a standard F150 is about 2K pounds when they became electric. How big does that battery have to be to pull attachments all day long in a field?
1998 Ford F-150/Curb weight
3,850 to 4,606
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning/Curb weight
6,015 lbs
That’s about as green as you can get.
There's gonna be a lot of audits?
Suuuuuure........they'll be one-way trips.
Journalists Tow Camper Behind Electric Truck, End in Stunning Failure When They Only Make it 85 Miles
Wow! We can go 160 miles before charging! Or make that 150. Or quick, we need to find a charging station right now!
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No emission regulators on those horses.
Nonsense.
It would be easy if you didn't have people living rural areas....
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Several members that work in or have real world knowledge of the power distribution side of things have posted their thoughts in this thread concerning current grids and infrastructure.
The consensus is that existing distribution is barely hanging on as it is much less being able to handle an exponential increase in demand.
Once the F'ing idiots that are driving this short bus are forced to acknowledge this FACT as a tripping point to their "plans", do even one of you doubt for a second that they would hesitate to commit multiple trillions of non-existent dollars to a dedicated Build Back Better utility infrastructure plan to save the already fucked up direction they want to push us into?
Yes we could never repay the debt.
Yes, it would take a decade or two to get meaningful distribution and power generation upgrades on-line.
Yes the possibility is also there that Trillions could be spent and not a single improvement come to fruition.
None of this would stop the suicidal inertia of the dark side.
They have already openly exhibited their eagerness to implement reckless policies and programs. I do not believe they would even blink at the prospect of blowing Trillions at anything deemed to be an impediment to their cause.
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The consensus is that existing distribution is barely hanging on as it is much less being able to handle an exponential increase in demand.
Once the F'ing idiots that are driving this short bus are forced to acknowledge this FACT as a tripping point to their "plans", do even one of you doubt for a second that they would hesitate to commit multiple trillions of non-existent dollars to a dedicated Build Back Better utility infrastructure plan to save the already fucked up direction they want to push us into?
Yes we could never repay the debt.
Yes, it would take a decade or two to get meaningful distribution and power generation upgrades on-line.
Yes the possibility is also there that Trillions could be spent and not a single improvement come to fruition.
None of this would stop the suicidal inertia of the dark side.
They have already openly exhibited their eagerness to implement reckless policies and programs. I do not believe they would even blink at the prospect of blowing Trillions at anything deemed to be an impediment to their cause.
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Expect government mandates limiting electricity use.
We are forcing you to use electricity as your sole energy source. . .
but.....you can only have it in small amounts and only at times of the day we allow and at prices we dictate.
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If this doesn’t want one to live off the grid I don’t know what does …
You may want to live off grid but they will be coming to bulldoze your farm and kill all your animals because "global warming targets".
It's happening right now in the Netherlands, Italy, Poland and other European countries.
The oldest living things on the planet are ~4400 years old. There are several examples. Jussayin
Unvaxed noncompliance global warming Patriots we are. I think that somewhere in the near future one wouldn’t care anymore if they come and try?
You might be surprised.
Tractors don't go 60mph in a field, they go maybe 10mph at most when working.
Gearing is made for low speed/high torque.
I can pull a 6 foot wide roto tiller digging 10 inches deep all day long, and *maybe* use 5 gallons of either diesel or gas (I have both and both get similar consumption rates).
I can't say for positive since I've never actually checked, but it seems using the hydraulics uses more fuel than the drivetrain.
For example, I have a hydraulic brush hog and the tractor uses lots more fuel running that than the PTO rototiller.
Just my experiences....others might have different and I dunno.....like I said, never looked into it myself.
I can assure you that we dont have the infrastructure for this, nor do we have the battery technology yet to even get close to the wet dream that is being proffered. Batteries will shit the bed (i.e., not have the "as advertised output") in heat, cold or under load. Fast charging will fuck them up too. If we go down this route RIGHT NOW we will throw ourselves into an economic depression heretofore unseen. Everything relies upon hydrocarbons at this point. Our dear leaders worldwide are playing God, and I suspect they know it.
We aren't going to die, AOC isnt going to be living in Waterworld with Pelosi at her beach house and we aren't going to revamp our electric grid within the next 20 years. Hell, we can't even get the roads done but probably could have with all the money we sent to Ukraine. Those on here decrying the use of fossil fuels - why dont you give up EVERYTHING that they are used in and get back to us in a month. If you are still alive. I mean, shit, even KY uses oil...
Some people here need to get a damn grip instead of listening to NASA and politicians about global warming. Wait, actually you should listen to or at least considerthe opinions of some that were in NASA:
www.businessinsider.com
We aren't going to die, AOC isnt going to be living in Waterworld with Pelosi at her beach house and we aren't going to revamp our electric grid within the next 20 years. Hell, we can't even get the roads done but probably could have with all the money we sent to Ukraine. Those on here decrying the use of fossil fuels - why dont you give up EVERYTHING that they are used in and get back to us in a month. If you are still alive. I mean, shit, even KY uses oil...
Some people here need to get a damn grip instead of listening to NASA and politicians about global warming. Wait, actually you should listen to or at least considerthe opinions of some that were in NASA:
49 Former NASA Scientists Send A Letter Disputing Climate Change
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Here is the kicker of all this. Get ready for it. Are you ready? CA has decided that it will shutter its last remaining nuclear electrical supply facility. They claim it isn’t green. WTF? Never mind that they already have rolling black outs, known energy issues and that Solar and Wind ain’t gonna cut it, never mind that EVs ain’t going to save them etc. and they going to close their last bit of hope because it’s not green enough? These people are a special kind of stupid. Nuclear is about as clean and green as we can currently get!
We most likely heading to a depression anyways, they just ain’t admitting it yet.I can assure you that we dont have the infrastructure for this, nor do we have the battery technology yet to even get close to the wet dream that is being proffered. Batteries will shit the bed (i.e., not have the "as advertised output") in heat, cold or under load. Fast charging will fuck them up too. If we go down this route RIGHT NOW we will throw ourselves into an economic depression heretofore unseen. Everything relies upon hydrocarbons at this point. Our dear leaders worldwide are playing God, and I suspect they know it.
We aren't going to die, AOC isnt going to be living in Waterworld with Pelosi at her beach house and we aren't going to revamp our electric grid within the next 20 years. Hell, we can't even get the roads done but probably could have with all the money we sent to Ukraine. Those on here decrying the use of fossil fuels - why dont you give up EVERYTHING that they are used in and get back to us in a month. If you are still alive. I mean, shit, even KY uses oil...
Some people here need to get a damn grip instead of listening to NASA and politicians about global warming. Wait, actually you should listen to or at least considerthe opinions of some that were in NASA:
49 Former NASA Scientists Send A Letter Disputing Climate Change
If the goal is to get global population down to 500,000,000 then they are on track.
Spending time on various boats this week & when you look at runabouts, ski/wakeboard boats, bass boats, pontoon boats, midsize sailboats, Jetski’s, and cruisers under maybe 45’-50’ that run generators, I don’t see how these types of watercraft can ever go fully electric. Too much added weight with limited range compared to fuel.
Take a wakeboard boat where you have 8 people on board with ballast tanks full of water while wake-surfing plowing thru the water is not running efficiently similar to the article above of an electric truck pulling an RV. Electric is just not a practical application for these types of smaller boats.
Technology may work it’s way into Large yachts as there is more area under the deck plus weight may not be as much of a concern compared to smaller boats but are there going to be rapid charging stations at docks all over the world? Don’t think so.
So you leave Miami sailing to the Bahamas are there going to be rapid charging stations on all the islands in the Caribbean? Probably not.
Too many variables to consider and in a marine environment I would not want to risk my families safety on the hopes of finding a marina with a rapid charging station when your almost out of juice.
With the smaller boats it’s just not possible due to added weight, inability to recharge fast, cost, access to numerous marinas with charging stations along with not having the same performance compared to gas/diesel applications I don’t believe it will work.
Take a wakeboard boat where you have 8 people on board with ballast tanks full of water while wake-surfing plowing thru the water is not running efficiently similar to the article above of an electric truck pulling an RV. Electric is just not a practical application for these types of smaller boats.
Technology may work it’s way into Large yachts as there is more area under the deck plus weight may not be as much of a concern compared to smaller boats but are there going to be rapid charging stations at docks all over the world? Don’t think so.
So you leave Miami sailing to the Bahamas are there going to be rapid charging stations on all the islands in the Caribbean? Probably not.
Too many variables to consider and in a marine environment I would not want to risk my families safety on the hopes of finding a marina with a rapid charging station when your almost out of juice.
With the smaller boats it’s just not possible due to added weight, inability to recharge fast, cost, access to numerous marinas with charging stations along with not having the same performance compared to gas/diesel applications I don’t believe it will work.
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There's transmission lines that go from the W.A.C. Bennett Dam (Northern B.C.) down to Los Angeles Commiefornia.
Methinks those lines could use a shortening and/or re-routing.
ungrateful bastards they is!
There's a stack of dams on the Nelson River in Northern M.B. with transmission lines coming down the Province, and yet much of what is produced here is sold to Minnesota as well as Chicago Illinois.
Methinks those lines could use a shortening and/or re-routing.
ungrateful bastards they is!
There's a stack of dams on the Nelson River in Northern M.B. with transmission lines coming down the Province, and yet much of what is produced here is sold to Minnesota as well as Chicago Illinois.
Better yet, don’t want to risk your family’s safety if something happens to one of said battery arrays and it goes up in flames.
Ohhhh noooo, guess boats will just have to be illegal. - The government
What is it they say? You will own nothing and be happy.
Who ever dreamed up the man made global warming horse shit was a mastermind genius.
A dreamed up regulatory revenue stream that will never go away.
Remember acid rain? A whole in the ozone? The polar bears were supposed to he extinct 20 years ago.
A dreamed up regulatory revenue stream that will never go away.
Remember acid rain? A whole in the ozone? The polar bears were supposed to he extinct 20 years ago.
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