The two pussies in this thread will never act on their "convictions". That takes a pair.
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Use your big boy words and debate the points I made. That’s how it works. I made no convictions. Just pointed out facts.
You aren't worth arguing with. Your world view is that of an idiot who doesn't live in reality.
And one thing is correct you have no convictions.
Now step aside, men are passing through.
If I’m an idiot then it should be easy for you to read my last post in this thread and let me know what I got wrong. What did I say that is not based in reality? Is what I said incorrect or does hearing the truth hurt your feelings?
They don't even need convictions to do it. Shit, it's as easy as:
1. Apply and get overseas job.
2. Pack big duffel and go to airport.
3. Work.
4. Meet hot women and bang them. Maybe even make other shit go bang too. (I suppose this takes a pair though)
5. Go home (or keep traveling the world) and party with zero tax liability. Bang hot women there too.
6. Repeat until you get married.
7. In case of divorce, return to Step 1 with added emphasis on Step 4 and 5, but remember to not marry them this time.
I made six figures as an expat for several years and paid absolutely zero taxes, be it income, SSI or Medicare taxes. You have to know what you're doing tax wise to not run afoul, but if you don't any decent expat accountant will tell you what you need to do. I was 100% legal, not even in gray area with my tax filing the entire time.
Hell, I still don't pay social security taxes working in the States now, plenty of that type of work across the country as well.
There's always the alternative of just not paying taxes, there's a shit ton of folks who do just that. Not my thing, but better than those being a whiny little bitch about it.
Of course, whiny bitches do whiny bitch things with zero effort to correct it.
You and the other genius act like you have discovered some great secret that the rest of us are too stupid to understand.
Wars have always been about the powerful enriching themselves.
Smedley Butler wrote a book about it.
You two are just using that as something to hide your pussiness behind.
On edit: I bet you two think the brave Ukranians are fighting to defend their country. When they are actually fighting to defend Bitme and the Dems money laundering and American bio weapons labs.
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Nah, this is my country, funny how thinking one is entitled to the fruits of another man’s labors.
Huh?
I do think many just eat up the shit the state and TV feeds them, I also fully DONT support the scammers of Ukraine, or Russia, once a combloc always a combloc.
How am I a pussy when I am in a more dangerous profession than both the mil on average and way more dangerous as being a state enforcer with some LE branch?
I watched my Dad struggle with the VA for years. Basic health care at around 75, and then bigger issues up until around his early 80's. At one point they kicked into overdrive and his VA benefits went way up. They have an odd way of doing things but took very good care of my Dad until he passed at 95. He had a patient advocate that helped him a lot. Probably why he did as well as he did.
The biggest lie I ever faced was when I enlisted as "infantry support", because even as a 17 year old; the thought of having to hump your shit everywhere sucked to me...and then I did two back-to-back deployments as an 'infantryman' between 2008 and 2010 due to a lack of manpower. Aside from having having to walk more for a couple years, I knew what I was getting myself into every step of the way.
Other than that, while I truly harbor no ill will against people who refused to serve for ideological reasons...I am unable to mentally or emotionally connect with them on any level. I view a conscientious objector as someone who celebrates all of June, but not the 4th of July.
People forget that our Nation is larger than they are, and that we are filled with people from all backgrounds. I had young men working for me from all walks of life. Some of them came from "great" backgrounds...and some of them wanted to be great, but had to escape home first. I had guys that were physically abused as kids, at least one that was sexually abused, some were foster kids, some had drug abusers for parents. Yet with all of the negativity in their upbringing, I'm yet to recall one of them ever speaking derogatory remarks about our country (at least in my presence). Yet I'm bombarded with seeing comments about those kids joining for lazy, or selfish reasons.
Regardless of whether one likes our policies or not (I frequently don't), I firmly believe in the fortitude required to keep us free enough to post stupid crap on gun forums etc... We might not keep it forever, but rolling over now because we don't like the 'bad people' that other idiots elect is only going to expedite our demise.
Have a blessed day.
There have been three conscientious objectors who were awarded the Medal of Honor without ever firing a weapon.
Desmond Doss, a Seventh Day Adnentist serving during WWII, who has had his story translated to the silver screen in “Hacksaw Ridge."
There were two conscientious objectors to receive the Medal of Honor in the Vietnam War. Thomas W. Bennett and Joseph G. LaPointe. Both had religious convictions that led to them serving as medics in the field. Neither survived the war.
Desmond Doss, a Seventh Day Adnentist serving during WWII, who has had his story translated to the silver screen in “Hacksaw Ridge."
There were two conscientious objectors to receive the Medal of Honor in the Vietnam War. Thomas W. Bennett and Joseph G. LaPointe. Both had religious convictions that led to them serving as medics in the field. Neither survived the war.
Ignore a few of the fuck tard posting on my thread. They never served a fucking hard day and the day will never come when they do something that is not self-serving bullshit. An endless stream of cunts talk about their desire to live in some sort of lawless fucktard world where there is no government or government program that helps anyone because it is all "socialist" to them. The problem is they are signing up for every fucking government program and screaming they are "entitled" to it as citizens of a country they fucking hate and would never serve in the first place.
Like most guys, I did not start out planning on hobbling for the rest of my life and now that I am approaching 60 I can only dream of doing things that require taking a knee, crawling or walking any distance. My hunting plans are shot happening and hiking the Rockies is a non-starter.
As a matter of fact, making the equipment checks today at work totally sucked since my right knee is swollen up AGAIN and I cannot put a lot of weight on it. So I hobbled for about a mile and worked up a sweat doing a 30 minute job in an hour. My price to pay and all things being equal, I'd still sign on the dotted line and do it again.
The point the libertarian/losertarians miss every time is that this is not a reward or a freebie. It is a promise was made by the government. We give them our lives and they take care of what they broke along the way. Unlike Social Security which is available to people who NEVER paid a fucking dime into the system or worked a full fucking day in their lives. This was earned. Damned illegal immigrants over 62 can apply for full benefits of Social Security having never paid a dime. Drunks can receive Social Security "disability" for being fucking drunkards, Puerto Ricans can get "disability" for not being able to speak English, Child molesters can get "diability" for being like Joe Biden and claiming their pedo problems are a mental illness. Every vagrant on the street has Social Security Disability for something, combined with free housing, food stamps, free cell phones and internet, free medical and a Biden meth kit with free drug appliances and a map to where the best dope dealer live, being a piece of shit in America pays quite well.
The VA is supposed to be for those who actually contributed. Something damn few people do these days.
Funny thing, the communists and socialists stay put and refuse to move to Russia, Cuba or Venezuela to get their better life................................Even weirder, the mouthy wind bags who scream about their Losertarian freedoms and simple minded bullshit are in every government free cheese line, signing up for every free thing they can grab and enjoying the fruits of everyone else's labor just like the commies.
And what is this "dangerous" profession?
That if you get hurt at you will be suing and happy to sign up for SSDI.
You have not pointed out anything even vaguely resembling a "fact". Here is the definition in case you are unaware of what a "fact" is.
Definition of FACT
something that has actual existence; an actual occurrence; a piece of information presented as having objective reality… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com You stupid beliefs are not facts. If you have never served in the military, nothing you say about the experience of serving in the military is "factual" it is all anecdotal and that is a "FACT".
If you have never went thru the process of filing a VA claim,, again you have no "facts".
Never had to get the government to live up to it's contractual obligations to treat injuries received in the line of duty? Then you have no "facts". The contract we signed when enlisting makes promises in writing, much like the government did to Native American tribes, the Taiwanese, the people of Vietnam whom we happily abandoned and every black Civil War Soldier still waiting on their 40 acres and a mule.
The mystery is really why are you in my thread when you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion. Are you getting your Biden voting rocks off talking shit to veterans??????
Tell us about this "dangerous" profession? You can be vague enough that we cannot find your personal information. In order for it to be a "profession" it has to have some sort of "professional standards" or accreditation and more people than you have to be involved in it.
Are you a driver for both Grubhub and Uber Eats?
I've always thought you probably spend your time cutting penis holes in truck stop restroom walls or something of that nature.
Nothing I said had anything to do with what you just did. Nothing at all. Apparently you mixed me up with someone else. As far as what I did say, yes it is all true and the only way to see it is not to have been brainwashed by uncle sam it seems. Your first mistake was trusting the government and signing on the line.You have not pointed out anything even vaguely resembling a "fact". Here is the definition in case you are unaware of what a "fact" is.
Definition of FACT
something that has actual existence; an actual occurrence; a piece of information presented as having objective reality… See the full definition
You stupid beliefs are not facts. If you have never served in the military, nothing you say about the experience of serving in the military is "factual" it is all anecdotal and that is a "FACT".
If you have never went thru the process of filing a VA claim,, again you have no "facts".
Never had to get the government to live up to it's contractual obligations to treat injuries received in the line of duty? Then you have no "facts". The contract we signed when enlisting makes promises in writing, much like the government did to Native American tribes, the Taiwanese, the people of Vietnam whom we happily abandoned and every black Civil War Soldier still waiting on their 40 acres and a mule.
The mystery is really why are you in my thread when you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion. Are you getting your Biden voting rocks off talking shit to veterans??????
And as far as getting beat up on the job, there are a hundreds of industries where this happens to men and they don’t have any help at the end of the line. Just battered bodies. They don’t have the luxury to bitch about slow VA service.
I agree with you that government fucked ya’ll over good. In many ways you guys aren’t willing to acknowledge. Its fucking us all.
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Name one of those "other industries" that's sole task is to protect and defend the nation against all industries foreign and domestic?
You don't like what the military does,,,,,,,,start voting.
You have to have brains to have them "washed". You would have been sucking a Russian cock for the last 50 years if it had not been for the military. Before that you would have been learning Japanese or German history without the military. And quite honestly the whole country would have long since fallen into a Balkanized shithole since the slave owners of the country would have separated and stayed gone without a military.
In spite of what you think, people who wanted a country so nice you could shit on it daily have made your life possible.
You didn’t protect shit. Millions of foreigners invade the southern border and marxist literally overthrew the government. The federal gov’t is unconstitutional. What the hell did any of you guys that are so bravely protecting America do? Not a mother fucking thing other than fuck with people over seas that posed no threat to America. While your country back home and the constitution got fucked. Wake up and think a bit. You were deceived as we all are.
Many industries keep this country operating. You guys that serve criminals in gov’t are nothing but cannon fodder for the corrupt and a drain on the working man. That can possibly change but it will take work. Maybe if shit gets fixed there can be honor joining the military. As it is now there os none. Whatever little you think there is, is the product of effective propaganda. Stop lying to yourselves.
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No help except going on the .gov teat of disability
Same thing I suppose.
And YOU would do it as its your right that you are owed.
It’s consistently in OSHAS top 5 dangerous gigs. Well above LE and most of Mil, so could the sheep dawgs quit humping my damn leg
You mean these hero’s?
The fact that bush 2.0 and Obama are not in jail prove your statement as false.
I never argued against the VA. The other fellow brought me into that conversation somehow.
Yet you can't name it? Afraid someone that works in the field will out you for not knowing anything about it?
Opsec, didn’t big gov teach you that after they taught you how to wash your skivvies
You are full of shit.
What are you the ONLY guy doing the job so if you say it everyone will know who you are?
You are just a lying troll pussy
I got the usual "thank you for your service" chide from the leftist cunts and took the time to tell them that those of us who served know you mean, "fuck you" when you say that.
@lonegunman762x51, is this what you hear every time someone says this to you? Sir, I’m not in the military but I greatly respect those that are. Mainly because my Grandfather was Army Air Corps and was the most influential person in my life. Now I’m older with kids and I’ve taught my kids to respect those that have fought for our country and the freedoms that we have. My son routinely walks up to people in uniform or an old guy wearing a hat and thanks them for their service with an outstretched hand hoping to shake hands with an American Hero. If I/we are doing or saying something wrong please set us straight. When I/him say “thank you for your service” we mean it and we are hoping to make their day brighter. We most certainly don’t want to silently say fuck you to a veteran. There’s no trolling here. Just an honest question. Should we say something differently?
@lonegunman762x51, is this what you hear every time someone says this to you? Sir, I’m not in the military but I greatly respect those that are. Mainly because my Grandfather was Army Air Corps and was the most influential person in my life. Now I’m older with kids and I’ve taught my kids to respect those that have fought for our country and the freedoms that we have. My son routinely walks up to people in uniform or an old guy wearing a hat and thanks them for their service with an outstretched hand hoping to shake hands with an American Hero. If I/we are doing or saying something wrong please set us straight. When I/him say “thank you for your service” we mean it and we are hoping to make their day brighter. We most certainly don’t want to silently say fuck you to a veteran. There’s no trolling here. Just an honest question. Should we say something differently?
You and your children are fine, he is not directing his comment to you or your children and how you are showing kindness to veterans. I understand what he is talking about, and you are perfectly fine doing what you are doing.
No, tons of private sector Americans do jobs that are both more useful to mainstreet and more dangerous that mil, LE etc. but they don’t go walking around with their hand out, freak out if some bum wears one of their outfits, or wait around to be thanked for their service. The beauty of their jobs, if you don’t like them, you don’t have to do business with them.
I don't think too badly of people who never served. I have mixed feelings about it. On some level I will never fully respect them as a man, familly I love and would die for included. It is just unfathomable to me to not want to fight. That is why there are mixed emotions.
Everyone has a different situation, life experiences, parental/mentors or lack of. That all shapes people into what they become. I can't really fault someone for never having someone push them or teach them about what it is to serve. People also mature differently so that fighting instinct if you have it may not manifest until later in life. So as much as I look at people different, I can't really shit on them for not serving.
Except when they start talking shit or making a bunch of excuses why they didn't or how they would have been so tough,ect. I know lots of great men who never served but lived honorable lives. The difference is they don't make excuses, they just took a different path in life. The truth is, if they decided to serve they would have been just as successful as they had the make up for it.
Men fight, its what we do. Some choose to sit on the sidelines and make money, chase other pursits or are just plain scared. Not everyone can be a winner. If you want people to have atleast some respect for you, then shut the fuck up about it; stop making excuses why you didn't and the last thing you should do is shit on someone who was willing to give it all for something bigger than themselves. That's a real good way to find yourself on the wrong side of a curb stomping or wosre.
Everyone has a different situation, life experiences, parental/mentors or lack of. That all shapes people into what they become. I can't really fault someone for never having someone push them or teach them about what it is to serve. People also mature differently so that fighting instinct if you have it may not manifest until later in life. So as much as I look at people different, I can't really shit on them for not serving.
Except when they start talking shit or making a bunch of excuses why they didn't or how they would have been so tough,ect. I know lots of great men who never served but lived honorable lives. The difference is they don't make excuses, they just took a different path in life. The truth is, if they decided to serve they would have been just as successful as they had the make up for it.
Men fight, its what we do. Some choose to sit on the sidelines and make money, chase other pursits or are just plain scared. Not everyone can be a winner. If you want people to have atleast some respect for you, then shut the fuck up about it; stop making excuses why you didn't and the last thing you should do is shit on someone who was willing to give it all for something bigger than themselves. That's a real good way to find yourself on the wrong side of a curb stomping or wosre.
Rare photo of Agent Orange. Involved in numerous black operations...but can't talk about it.
What did you fight for? I’ll respect the man that says he signed up to fight for a paycheck and a pension or a family legacy. It’s when I hear the other bullshit like freedom, constitution, honor, etc that I have to point out the obvious truth which is fairly obvious to anyone that is honest.
Mil and police seem to think they are a step above which is a product of the propaganda campaign in order to keep recruitment numbers up. In good times and good leadership, these men deserve the same respect as anyone else that is productive. No more and no less. When gov goes to total shit like it is now, anyone involved with it by choice is gonna take heat and rightfully so. Many people in many industries are involved in making a country whole.
You talk like someone who is very insecure and only cares about themselves. It would be hard to explain it to you, because you don't have the wiring that is found is most males.
You fight because that is what you are designed to do. Its in our DNA. Doesn't really matter who or why, its what the warrior class does. Some many need a reason or justification to sleep better at night, but at the end of the day, we fight because that's what 2 million years of evolution has bred us to do.
People don't look down on you because you didn't serve. They look down on you because you talk and act like a bitch.
Bitch and moan and cry about how our government oppresses us ect, Which may be true; but at the end of the day, the only thing standing between you and a world full of people who want to kill you and take what you have, is the people in uniform ready to go die for you. Maybe you should rethink how you address people who are willing to do what you are too chickenshit to do.
It wouldn’t, just like being born in the ghetto wouldn’t stop you from getting off welfare and getting a job as a garbage man, some just like to sit around and eat gov cheese
So you’re saying because….sociopath?
Because people who want to hurt and kill random people, who pose no threat to their way of life, those people are crazy, similar to those nut jobs who go shoot up a school or music fest, they should be in a secured nut hospital, or just sadly put down like a unfortunate rabid dog.
You went off the rockers a bit my man. You joined to shoot people overseas for politicians and bankers for fun. Fair enough as you are at the very least being honest.
While I believe the military the US has is a deterrent, I also believe that it has been used to do terrible things for the wrong reasons. I don’t believe any modern campaign had anything to do with America’s freedom, people’s liberties, or the protection of the constitution. The soldiers that were maimed and killed were victims of a deceitful gov’t and were unnecessary casualties. Its sad. Like I said earlier, the US is being invaded from the south as we speak and domestic enemies took over the gov’t and just recently sealed the deal by getting all 50 states to fraudulently certify elections. The federal gov’t that steals money from us to pay you is unconstitutional. What does it say to do in the military handbook when your superior is the domestic enemy you signed up to protect against?
This is why no one takes anything you say seriously.
The military in this country is subordinate to civilian authority. It can't just go to the border and kill anyone coming in without being ordered to do so.
Even if there is 100% solid proof that Biden's "win" was a fraud, the military can't just throw his ass out. Point to one single place in the Constitution or US Code that authorizes the military to take action against civilian leadership based on the claims of howler monkeys like you. Go ahead, take all the time in the world.
The election has absolutely nothing to do with the constitutionality of the executive branch. To associate the two is one of the most moronic things I have heard in a long time, displaying an extreme level of ignorance of law, logic, and jurisprudence as well as an infantile ability to reason.
And if these things piss you off so fucking much, why don't you grow a fucking pair and get after it yourself? Tim McVeigh had almost exactly the same grievances as you do. But I have to have some level of respect for the guy because he acted and paid the price.
But you won't do such a thing. You'll do nothing except sit here and screech at others to do something about the "unconstitutional" federal government from behind your fucking screen. @DeathBeforeDismount pegged you right: you're a bitch
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McVeigh served and won a Bronze Star for Valor in the first golf war.
I don't think he was bitching and complaining about fellow service members on the internet, which existed even back then.
I don't think he was bitching and complaining about fellow service members on the internet, which existed even back then.
So people should not talk about the issues with our country?
I somehow don’t think the founding fathers would agree.
There is a good amount of ground between talking about the issues and possible solutions, and blowing a fucking building up, like a ton of middle ground, shit ain’t 1s and 0s
More evidence of balls vs lack of balls (Wade2Big)
True but he has similar issues with fed.gov as dumbshit does
So then how have you seen "more than a few people try to get into my industry only to be denied because they hopped on the “everyone has a disability, $$” mil exit bit" ?It wouldn’t, just like being born in the ghetto wouldn’t stop you from getting off welfare and getting a job as a garbage man, some just like to sit around and eat gov cheese
So then how have you seen "more than a few people try to get into my industry only to be denied because they hopped on the “everyone has a disability, $$” mil exit bit" ?
Oh well that’s my industry, and yeah people who try to get that free money by claiming disabilities, or the sad ones are people who had bad parents who put them on that ADHD shit, very uphill battle to get certified.
I don’t think being a garbage dude, as mentioned here, has the same level of medical craziness to get in lol
Nor do many careers.
Fraud
Elaborate
Honestly if you could put a few things together it’s not too hard to figure out what I do for work.
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We only reduced the asshole population in those countries, if their borders weren't so porous we could have reduced it to the levels needed to provide them with a good/better start and/or if the ROE was better. Some of those "random people" indiscriminately killed and/orchestrated the killings of a lot of innocent civilians. As an example 04 May 2006 on a patrol a suicide bomber decided to blow himself up in Rusafa, Baghdad just above Palestine Street near a local court house in a market that sells children's clothing and toys, the handler and bomb makers is someone we wanted to catch. 18 killed at the scene, over 30 seriously wounded (no telling how many died later), I was just down the street on a patrol when it happened and we assisted with as much as we could. The people that orchestrated that are the assholes I am talking about. Just like the assholes that we caught that were indiscriminately shooting Sunni civilians and the ones that were indiscriminately shooting Shiite civilians that we placed our vehicles in between them and the fire(Baghdad was a huge city, we couldn't pinpoint where we were taking fire from, but we could tell what side it was coming from) so we could safely evacuate them off the elevated highway to safety. Or the assholes that tortured civilians and/or delivered parts of a family member to the Iraqi Army Colonel that I worked with. Just providing a little bit of perspective.
What do you know about killing anyways besides reading about it in a book or from some movie? Each person reacts to killing in their own unique way.
Some people were meant/born for the fight. Some might say it is a test of wills and skill. Either way, it is fun till it isn't, it is chaotic, it is what separates the warriors from those that aren't. I've seen guys freeze in a fight, I've seen guys refuse to get up on the gun in a fight and I have seen guys put it all on the line, I have seen guys do some wild stuff.
I have always said that you see the best and the worst in people in a combat zone/war.
Anyways, just my .02
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