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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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That organization, DTRA, was supposed to be founded for nuclear war preparedness defense, not bioweapon offense.
 
above data from russia? reliable? in ww2 the germans used meth during blitzkrieg actions so believable. but how did this info get here?
these guys posted it...and so it could be bs or not...like anything else.

 
truth comes out...i wonder why...
These reports are not accidentally coming out or somehow MSM seeing the light, but are likely part of a somewhat coordinated pressure campaign on Zelensky . I can only imagine issues that have folks riled up in WH go way beyond Ukrainian personnel changes

NY Times' Tom Friedman:
"There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky — considerably more than has been reported." ''But I have still not seen any reporting that convincingly explains what that was all about. It is as if we don’t want to look too closely under the hood in Kyiv for fear of what corruption or antics we might see, when we have invested so much there. ''

It's a little late for those doubts, isn't it?





Meanwhile, mister give us all your money is lamenting European delay on the new 8 billion Euros of aid, EU probably also got the same memo on something shady going on in Ukraine.

''A new "stab in the back" to Ukraine "8 billion euros of aid are now stalled. It's either a crime or a mistake. I don't want to name the country that is slowing down the process. I hope it's just a mistake."



Ok so we are done with bleeding ass protests over fake rape , now vouge is protesting the POW deaths that Ukrainans intentionally blew up with HIMARS salvo into Stalag13
 
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above data from russia? reliable? in ww2 the germans used meth during blitzkrieg actions so believable. but how did this info get here?
Posted like its from us source. Used spelling "defence"
 
these guys posted it...and so it could be bs or not...like anything else.

The Nazis even had an appropriate name for their rolls of meth…..

PERV-etin
 
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These reports are not accidentally coming out or somehow MSM seeing the light , but are likely part of a somewhat coordinated pressure campaign on Zelensky with targeted leaks and such reporting. I can only imagine issues that have folks riled up in WH are not Ukrainan personnel changes

NY Times' Tom Friedman:
"There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky — considerably more than has been reported." ''But I have still not seen any reporting that convincingly explains what that was all about. It is as if we don’t want to look too closely under the hood in Kyiv for fear of what corruption or antics we might see, when we have invested so much there. ''

It's a little late for those doubts, isn't it?





Meanwhile, mister give us all your money is lamenting European delay on the new 8 billion Euros of aid, EU probably also got the same memo on something shady going on in Ukraine.

''A new "stab in the back" to Ukraine "8 billion euros of aid are now stalled. It's either a crime or a mistake. I don't want to name the country that is slowing down the process. I hope it's just a mistake."



Ok so we are done with bleeding ass protests over fake rape , now vouge is protesting the POW deaths that Ukrainans intentionally blew up with HIMARS salvo into Stalag13

side story is that some azov guys were being tried and started to confess to war crimes...and zelensky or the cia decided they needed to put the kybosh on that sort of thing. while i don't know if that is true, it sounds like the cia...
apparently they already admitted the US is doing targeting for them, and has the power to tell them not to shoot at specific targets.
 

looks like zelensky is admitting they have lost, unless other countries put boots on the ground.

“We still cannot break the advantage of the Russian army in artillery and in manpower, and this is very felt in the battles, especially in the Donbass – Peski, Avdiivka, and other directions. It’s just hell. It can’t even be described in words.”
 
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wrong. i believe he gave the taliban more.

Some media reports and social media posts have suggested that $85 billion in equipment was left behind, . biden loves the taliban

Specifically, the equipment are as follows: link

  • 2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP's
  • 75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles, etc.
  • 45 UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopters
  • 50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
  • ScanEagle Military Drones
  • 30 Military Version Cessnas
  • 4 C-130's
  • 29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
  • 208+ Aircraft Total
  • At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
  • 61,000 M203 Rounds
  • 20,040 Grenades
  • Howitzers
  • Mortars +1,000's of Rounds
  • 162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Communications Gear
  • 16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
  • Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
  • Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
  • 10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
  • Recconaissance Equipment (ISR)
  • Laser Aiming Units
  • Explosives Ordnance: C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
  • 2,520 Bombs
  • Operational Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops
  • Pallets with millions of Dollars in U.S. Currency
  • Millions of rounds of ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm bullets and 9,000,000 rounds of .50 caliber bullets
  • Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
  • U.S. Military HIIDE (Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment) Biometrics
  • Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators
 
If this is legit Ukrainians are losing people at rates not shy of WW1 era front sections. And it seems Ukrainians like Afghanis before might have a ghost army that is being paid by US and EU funds but doesn't really exist except on paper.

 
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And Zelensky is apparently throwing a fit about not getting enough support from the EU and US. He seems like a formerly useful idiot who is about to become a tragic martyr.
 
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Zelenskyy's only real question is does he walk away in the end richer than the Biden's or not. We'll likely never know.
 
Zelenskyy's only real question is does he walk away in the end richer than the Biden's or not. We'll likely never know.
I think he has a either believing his own hype too much, or is already under great duress. Why keep him alive with dangerous knowledge?
 
Been listening to the translation of Zelensky bashing amnesty international for calling him out for putting military hard ware in residential housing areas, shopping malls schools and hospitals then crying foul when they are hit.

Its simple Z. Don’t put military hard ware there, and its not a potential target.
 
Been listening to the translation of Zelensky bashing amnesty international for calling him out for putting military hard ware in residential housing areas, shopping malls schools and hospitals then crying foul when they are hit.

Its simple Z. Don’t put military hard ware there, and its not a potential target.

This amnesty international report is not the first I've heard of Ukraine forces doing this. I know some people that have direct contacts over there that have been stating this has been occurring. I also remember reading somehwere about the Azov Battalion being notorious for this - they even took in a bunch of civi's with them in that steel plant they were holding up in.

Just a shit show, sponsored by our tax dollars. With no accountability or oversight, just so that we can rattle sabers with another nuclear power.
 
The fact that 99.9% (math without doing math) of congress approved of this should be all the vote harder for republicans so they can save the day folk should need to know to change change their thinking. Add this on top of the weapons left in Afghanistan, and the trillion dollar spending for the covid scam and the climate scam and I would think that any rational man would understand that government will be our downfall. These people at the top are evil and the workers at the bottom choose to sit at the table with the devil.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the divide is between anyone that receives a government paycheck and their supporters both republicans and democrats, and those of us who only get fucked by gov’t and despise them all.
 
Remember when Rand Paul blocked the bill till they add an inspector general and everyone was throwing daggers at him for crazy idea of having some oversight in light of Afghan experience. It seems Ukraine is Afghan hussle on steroids amounts that flowed into Afghanistan -> Virgina suburbs per year is now flowing every couple of weeks.
 
Remember when Rand Paul blocked the bill till they add an inspector general and everyone was throwing daggers at him for crazy idea of having some oversight in light of Afghan experience. It seems Ukraine is Afghan hussle on steroids amounts that flowed into Afghanistan -> Virgina suburbs per year is now flowing every couple of weeks.

That's because this whole operation is about laundering taxpayer dollars through the military industrial complex.

The politicians don't care or even want to know where the weapons ultimately end up.
 
How long before some of those stingers find their way across the US/Mexico border I wonder.

“Very worried”: Swedish police ringing alarm bell on a gang armed with anti-tank weapons​

According to the newspaper Aftonbladet In Sweden, the police discovered at least three groups of criminals using military weapons.
“The presence of anti-tank weapons among criminal groups is very disturbing, especially when they are involved in conflicts. I think there is a high probability that anti-tank weapons have been used by criminals.” , Mr. Gunnar Appelgren – police commissioner and expert on gangs – told the newspaper Aftonbladet.
The newspaper identified one of the weapons seized from a 28-year-old criminal, made in the former Yugoslavia, where illegal weapons were smuggled to Europe after the Yugoslav wars in the 1990s. The source of the other confiscated weapons was not specified.
At the time, Swedish police voiced suspicion that Western weapons sent to Ukraine might end up in the hands of criminal gangs in Sweden, similar to the Yugoslav wars.
In June of this year, an anti-tank weapon of the type donated to Ukraine was sent to a second-hand shop in the city of Gothenburg.
Earlier, Interpol also predicted an increase in the illegal arms trade after the conflict in Ukraine. They note there have been similar consequences in the Balkans and Africa, where lawlessness and countless weapons have been abused by criminal groups.

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“Very worried”: Swedish police ringing alarm bell on a gang armed with anti-tank weapons​

According to the newspaper Aftonbladet In Sweden, the police discovered at least three groups of criminals using military weapons.
“The presence of anti-tank weapons among criminal groups is very disturbing, especially when they are involved in conflicts. I think there is a high probability that anti-tank weapons have been used by criminals.” , Mr. Gunnar Appelgren – police commissioner and expert on gangs – told the newspaper Aftonbladet.
The newspaper identified one of the weapons seized from a 28-year-old criminal, made in the former Yugoslavia, where illegal weapons were smuggled to Europe after the Yugoslav wars in the 1990s. The source of the other confiscated weapons was not specified.
At the time, Swedish police voiced suspicion that Western weapons sent to Ukraine might end up in the hands of criminal gangs in Sweden, similar to the Yugoslav wars.
In June of this year, an anti-tank weapon of the type donated to Ukraine was sent to a second-hand shop in the city of Gothenburg.
Earlier, Interpol also predicted an increase in the illegal arms trade after the conflict in Ukraine. They note there have been similar consequences in the Balkans and Africa, where lawlessness and countless weapons have been abused by criminal groups.

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They get all the fun weapons while we can't even get new FA stuff.
 
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They get all the fun weapons while we can't even get new FA stuff.
Its such bullshit. After the Afghan BS, theres absolutely no excuse on the .gov's part for not selling surplus SAW's/M4's/M16's/240's/20mm Vulcans/etc to us thru the CMP.
For that matter, Minuteman ICBM's should be sold to us thru CMP. The 2A community at this point is obviously more responsible than our gov't and .mil leadership. I'd make the argument we in the shooting community should be the ones in possession of all American firepower, not the gov't.
 
Man.

He may have been a disillusioned commie but he he owned up to it and had the intelligence to repent.

“If you are not a commie as a youth you lack heart, if you are a commie post brain development you are a piece of shit” - Winston Diddy.
Guess I aint gotta heart? Been diehard right wing constitutionalist since before my memory was even fully developed. Used to stuff kids into lockers who had libtard parents
But maybe was just believing in what dad believed in. Its worked out for the better so far
 
could be russian disinformation?

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Kind of like when the original National Socialists were badly losing the war, instead of using their remaining forces and energy to fight the enemy, they used them instead to go after their own population accusing them of being disloyal and murdering civilians by the thousands.

It seems the Ukranian versions of the National Socialists are possibly following the same playbook.
After all, many of them were willing supporters and collaborators when the original National Socialists first rolled in.
(Later they found out their new best buddies actually wanted to exterminate them, or rather any that were left after they used them as cannon fodder).

Almost like history repeating itself it seems.
 
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CBS News: Ukraine military aid doesn't always get to the front lines: "Like 30% of it reaches its final destination".
Maybe its time to start looking for some gear , so that us poors can keep up with German and where better than Ukrainian bazaar
 
Victor Bout is like “Please, oh Please, Please, Please Baby Jesus, please trade me for that basketball guy……so much money to be made. I swear Baby Jesus….me for the Dude and I tithe handsomely, please……”
 
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There is lots of money to be made , fuck you and your pretend a democracy is what Ukrainians are saying, maybe they can aid FBI raiding Trump and other political opponents of Brandon , they have lots of experience with that.

''Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said the retraction by CBS was not enough and called for an investigation into the documentary. “Welcome first step, but it is not enough … There should be an internal investigation into who enabled this and why,”

In the documentary, Ohman described the corruption and bureaucracy that he has to work around to deliver aid to Ukraine. “There are like power lords, oligarchs, political players,” he said. “The system itself, it’s like, ‘We are the armed forces of Ukraine. If security forces want it, well, the Americans gave it to us.’ It’s kind of like power games all day long, and so eventually people need the stuff, and they go to us.”

Other reporting has shown that there is virtually no oversight for the billions of dollars in weapons that the US and its allies are pouring into Ukraine. CNN reported in April that the US has “almost zero” ability to track the weapons it is sending once they enter Ukraine. One source briefed on US intelligence described it as dropping the arms into a “big black hole.”
 
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There is lots of money to be made , fuck you and your pretend a democracy is what Ukrainians are saying, maybe they can aid FBI Raiding Trump and any other political opponents of Brandon they have lots of experience with that.

''Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said the retraction by CBS was not enough and called for an investigation into the documentary. “Welcome first step, but it is not enough … There should be an internal investigation into who enabled this and why,”

In the documentary, Ohman described the corruption and bureaucracy that he has to work around to deliver aid to Ukraine. “There are like power lords, oligarchs, political players,” he said. “The system itself, it’s like, ‘We are the armed forces of Ukraine. If security forces want it, well, the Americans gave it to us.’ It’s kind of like power games all day long, and so eventually people need the stuff, and they go to us.”

Other reporting has shown that there is virtually no oversight for the billions of dollars in weapons that the US and its allies are pouring into Ukraine. CNN reported in April that the US has “almost zero” ability to track the weapons it is sending once they enter Ukraine. One source briefed on US intelligence described it as dropping the arms into a “big black hole.”
Do I hear a whirlwind that will need reaping?
 
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