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And NATO will send fags? I kind of don't get it are all of the NATO higher ups fags so when they see those wagner, nork videos get hardons and will lead assault on muscular eastern men from the first row hoping "rapings of Germany" repeat and those A type men get medieval on their ass????

Perhaps to deter NATO different kind of advertisement is required maybe those employed in propaganda sector of Russia et al forces are a bit "behind the fashion"... West just wants to fuck and east simply does not understand - talk about lost in translation...
 
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And NATO will send fags? I kind of don't get it are all of the NATO higher ups fags so when they see those wagner, nork videos get hardons and will lead assault on muscular eastern men from the first row hoping "rapings of Germany" repeat and those A type men get medieval on their ass????

Perhaps to deter NATO different kind of advertisement is required maybe those employed in propaganda sector of Russia et al forces are a bit "behind the fashion"... West just wants to fuck and east simply does not understand - talk about lost in translation...
que ?
no tingua nada.
 
Related to the NORK video of their "special or whatever" forces "training" and how this might get opposite reaction in the West... Not scare and "how tough they are" but hey let "me be captured by those types" hence constant push to open conflict....
 
It's been almost a year and they are still over there dicking around Bakhmut? And that "big russian invasion" is basically a list of all the stuff they have lost thus far. When you consider that these are the russians we are supposed to have been afraid of for the last 70 years it's mind blowing.
Why would the Russians be in a rush to pass on Bakhmut, it’s a meat grinder and they are the ones turning the handle. Your still underestimating what’s happening there
 
Okay now do this one


When Russia’s richest man, an oil tycoon was arrested and 50 billion is assests stolen. Because he backed political opposition to Putin.

Putin is not the worlds savior… any more than Biden and co.

Putin is not the worlds savior, there is no doubt about that. But is he Russia's savior...... that is the question.

I look at the two men, Biden and Putin. I think Putin wants to make Russia strong again, where Biden wants to destroy his country.

Make Russia great again, boy I wonder if Putin has thought of putting that on some red hats, bet it would go over big.
 
Putin is not the worlds savior, there is no doubt about that. But is he Russia's savior...... that is the question.

I look at the two men, Biden and Putin. I think Putin wants to make Russia strong again, where Biden wants to destroy his country.

Make Russia great again, boy I wonder if Putin has thought of putting that on some red hats, bet it would go over big.
I think as someone else said, Putin is trying to get their house in order. Keeping outside influences out of their country. Hell Biden, Patraeous and many others have called for regime change there.

Do Russians even wear baseball hats?
 
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I wonder if this was his "out" for reducing services and thereby reducing his overall out-of-pocket cash support to Ukraine. IOW, he is using this as an excuse to cut operating costs that he has been giving away for free and is tired of burdening his bottom line with Ukraine welfare checks.
i think the idea that he doesn't want to help them commit more war crimes is simple enough,
 
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It appears that the Western powers that were supplying Ukraine are over it. They're promising arms... but it's going to trickle over in months to years. Basically this is possibly over before the end of the calendar year with a decisive Russian pounding.

Unless the West decides to flip the chessboard and move past traditional arms.


 
I wonder if this was his "out" for reducing services and thereby reducing his overall out-of-pocket cash support to Ukraine. IOW, he is using this as an excuse to cut operating costs that he has been giving away for free and is tired of burdening his bottom line with Ukraine welfare checks.

He knows he is expected to give away more for the re-build.
 
I'm certain the EU really wants the albatross of rebuilding Ukraine and all the headaches that come with accepting Ukraine as a member into the EU

Because issues with Russia are never going to come up again either

Türkiye may block them too
 
I'm certain the EU really wants the albatross of rebuilding Ukraine and all the headaches that come with accepting Ukraine as a member into the EU

Because issues with Russia are never going to come up again either

Türkiye may block them too
i dunno. every dollar/euro of somebody else's money they spend is an opportunity to skim some of it.
 
It appears that the Western powers that were supplying Ukraine are over it. They're promising arms... but it's going to trickle over in months to years. Basically this is possibly over before the end of the calendar year with a decisive Russian pounding.

Unless the West decides to flip the chessboard and move past traditional arms.


The money has still been pumped into manufacturing the stuff. Its a win for them.



We should be spending this money on Refineries and Pipelines. Not Tanks and blowing up pipelines..
 
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Putin is not the worlds savior, there is no doubt about that. But is he Russia's savior...... that is the question.

I look at the two men, Biden and Putin. I think Putin wants to make Russia strong again, where Biden wants to destroy his country.

Make Russia great again, boy I wonder if Putin has thought of putting that on some red hats, bet it would go over big.
the fucktard CPUSA (democrats) made them a few years ago. they were meant to be anti-trump. I saw a few.

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I'm certain the EU really wants the albatross of rebuilding Ukraine and all the headaches that come with accepting Ukraine as a member into the EU

Because issues with Russia are never going to come up again either

Türkiye may block them too

I not sure which evil supervillain plan the USA/CIA (really the same thing) are going with at this stage but here is one fun plan.
Promise tons of cool stuff to make the stupid government in the Ukraine be all extra belligerent and provocative.
But slow walk the stuff because it "isn't ready yet".
Let Russia give them a good pounding and take a nice little chunk of the country for good.
Make a quick peace deal with Russia to avoid WWIII and let the Russians keep the land they wanted and such.
Move in to help "rebuild" the Ukraine and of course open a base or two there to "guarantee the safety of the Ukraine"
And just like that you now have made the Ukraine your permanent vassal servant state and your new place for bases that you don't have to pay rent on.
The MIC gets handed a good chunk of the "rebuilding" contract which is going to probably run into the trillion+ range
Run the Ukraine as your own private serfdom for the next 50 years.
 
Elon don’t need their Pennie’s……
Maybe not, but any businessman worth his salt doesn't want unprofitable ventures. At some point it isnt about just the money, its about the monthly/quarterly/annual metrics. Constant improvement is the goal. It also has to be remembered that if there are investors will be on the board's case because those dollars translate into their personal ROI.
 
i've seen videos of soldiers dragging people away to force them to fight. i don't know for sure because i don't speak the language, so i don't bother posting them here.

 

Obama has been a Soviet asset from birth. What kind of abject retards think Obama would help Ukraine throw out Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych, after Obama helped Russia disarm Ukraine even more of its conventional weapons on the tail-end of Nunn-Lugar?

Obama’s mom and grandparents were Soviet assets and traitors dating way back. They worked for Boeing stealing Technical Data for the B-29, since Russia had several crash- or emergency-landed samples of the US’s most capable strategic bomber of that era. After getting the technical data, Russia copied the B-29 and called it the Tu-4. They even copied the subsystem manufacturer placards on each piece of equipment.

iu


So Obama’s first job after college was working for a CIA front company (Business International Corporation) in financial intelligence gathering, while his whore mom worked for US AID, both organizations having already been fully penetrated by the Soviets as soon as they were started.

In all, the three‐month investigation by The Times found that at least 22 American news organizations had employed, though sometimes only on a casual .basis, American journalists who were also working for the C.I.A. In a few instances the organization's were aware of the C.I.A. connection, but most of them appear not to have been.

The organizations, which range from some of the most influential in the nation to some of the most obscure, include ABC and CBS News, Time, Life and Newsweek magazines. The New York Times, The New York Herald Tribune, The Associated Press and United Press International.

Also included were the Scripps‐Howard chain of newspapers. The Christian Science Monitor, The Wall Street Journal, The Louisville Courier‐Journal and Fodor's, a publisher of travel guides.

Among the lesser known organizations were the College Press Service, Business International, the McLendon Broadcasting Organization, Film Daily and a defunct underground newspaper published Washington, The Quicksilver Times.

He came out of nowhere and got elected into the US Senate, again with the help of our Soviet front groups, including Council For a Livable World. "Council for a Livable World has a history of helping to elect new candidates who can make a difference in the Senate, such as a little-known state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama and a 29-year old Joe Biden in his first statewide contest."

You ever wonder why a Black Bolshevik communist piece of trash selected an old Democrat party reject gaffe machine pedophile for his running mate in 2008? Has that ever rubbed you wrong and made you really question what was going on? Now you know. They’re Soviet plants in our political system who have been working for Soviet active measures their entire careers.

iu


Notice the parallels: Obama grandparents stole technical data and supplied it to the Soviets. Joe Biden’s emergence into the Senate coincided with B-1A cancellation and technical data being transferred to the Soviets so they could try to match our latest strategic bomber at the time, totally unable to develop their own because they’re poor and have too much blood in their vyodka.

They get Obama into the White House and what does he do? America was supposed to be post-racial, a sign of healing capped on the past with the election of a “clean and articulate” man of color for the first time. If you read the defector literature of Soviet KGB, one of their prime directive active measures programs was to incite violence and racial division in the US. That’s why they had Martin Luther King Jr. march in the last KKK Sheriff-run county in the US while they had a chance, who was on his way out of office. That’s why they poked the fires of the agitation in the civil rights movement and did everything they could to start riots and harsh police responses.

And that’s why they propped up the campaign of a no-name faggot Senator from Illinois who they got into office with funny money. Notice what Obama did with racial division, and then defense. He KEPT Bush’s SECDEF, Robert Gates. Robert Gates’ main mission was to kill the F-22 Raptor program before we could manufacture them in Full Rate Production. Multiple USAF Chiefs of Staff literally fell on their swords and sacrificed their careers to save the Raptor, but were unsuccessful. Gates killed it, giving China and Russia some time to develop their own stealth fighters, the J-20 and Su-57.

The idea that Obama overthrew Yanukovych as part of some CIA coup is one of the most absurdly retarded things I’ve ever heard. You know how much you can trust any of these mongoloids running their stupid twitter channels who spew that dimwittery.

The Ukrainian people hated Yanukovych and his Donbas region boyars who were pilfering the country. They protested against his collusion with Putin for 4 months until he fled.

THEN Hunter Biden was placed on the board of directors for Burisma at $86,666 per month. That was Putin’s way of blocking the investigation into Burisma.

Who then traveled to the UK in September of 2014 to tell David Cameron to shut down the investigation into Burisma’s CEO, Zlochevsky?

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Thes Russian trolls and new kids who know nothing about Soviet Active Measures are being led around to believing that Obama was actually fighting against Putin in Ukraine, even as Obama did Putin’s bidding.

Wake up and stop believing random idiots on twitter.
 
Obama has been a Soviet asset from birth. What kind of abject retards think Obama would help Ukraine throw out Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych, after Obama helped Russia disarm Ukraine even more of its conventional weapons on the tail-end of Nunn-Lugar?

Obama’s mom and grandparents were Soviet assets and traitors dating way back. They worked for Boeing stealing Technical Data for the B-29, since Russia had several crash- or emergency-landed samples of the US’s most capable strategic bomber of that era. After getting the technical data, Russia copied the B-29 and called it the Tu-4. They even copied the subsystem manufacturer placards on each piece of equipment.

iu


So Obama’s first job after college was working for a CIA front company (Business International Corporation) in financial intelligence gathering, while his whore mom worked for US AID, both organizations having already been fully penetrated by the Soviets as soon as they were started.



He came out of nowhere and got elected into the US Senate, again with the help of our Soviet front groups, including Council For a Livable World. "Council for a Livable World has a history of helping to elect new candidates who can make a difference in the Senate, such as a little-known state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama and a 29-year old Joe Biden in his first statewide contest."

You ever wonder why a Black Bolshevik communist piece of trash selected an old Democrat party reject gaffe machine pedophile for his running mate in 2008? Has that ever rubbed you wrong and made you really question what was going on? Now you know. They’re Soviet plants in our political system who have been working for Soviet active measures their entire careers.

iu


Notice the parallels: Obama grandparents stole technical data and supplied it to the Soviets. Joe Biden’s emergence into the Senate coincided with B-1A cancellation and technical data being transferred to the Soviets so they could try to match our latest strategic bomber at the time, totally unable to develop their own because they’re poor and have too much blood in their vyodka.

They get Obama into the White House and what does he do? America was supposed to be post-racial, a sign of healing capped on the past with the election of a “clean and articulate” man of color for the first time. If you read the defector literature of Soviet KGB, one of their prime directive active measures programs was to incite violence and racial division in the US. That’s why they had Martin Luther King Jr. march in the last KKK Sheriff-run county in the US while they had a chance, who was on his way out of office. That’s why they poked the fires of the agitation in the civil rights movement and did everything they could to start riots and harsh police responses.

And that’s why they propped up the campaign of a no-name faggot Senator from Illinois who they got into office with funny money. Notice what Obama did with racial division, and then defense. He KEPT Bush’s SECDEF, Robert Gates. Robert Gates’ main mission was to kill the F-22 Raptor program before we could manufacture them in Full Rate Production. Multiple USAF Chiefs of Staff literally fell on their swords and sacrificed their careers to save the Raptor, but were unsuccessful. Gates killed it, giving China and Russia some time to develop their own stealth fighters, the J-20 and Su-57.

The idea that Obama overthrew Yanukovych as part of some CIA coup is one of the most absurdly retarded things I’ve ever heard. You know how much you can trust any of these mongoloids running their stupid twitter channels who spew that dimwittery.

The Ukrainian people hated Yanukovych and his Donbas region boyars who were pilfering the country. They protested against his collusion with Putin for 4 months until he fled.

THEN Hunter Biden was placed on the board of directors for Burisma at $86,666 per month. That was Putin’s way of blocking the investigation into Burisma.

Who then traveled to the UK in September of 2014 to tell David Cameron to shut down the investigation into Burisma’s CEO, Zlochevsky?

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Thes Russian trolls and new kids who know nothing about Soviet Active Measures are being led around to believing that Obama was actually fighting against Putin in Ukraine, even as Obama did Putin’s bidding.

Wake up and stop believing random idiots on twitter.
Obamas grand father was closer to a British asset in Africa you fucking moron.
 
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Obama has been a Soviet asset from birth. What kind of abject retards think Obama would help Ukraine throw out Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych, after Obama helped Russia disarm Ukraine even more of its conventional weapons on the tail-end of Nunn-Lugar?

Obama’s mom and grandparents were Soviet assets and traitors dating way back. They worked for Boeing stealing Technical Data for the B-29, since Russia had several crash- or emergency-landed samples of the US’s most capable strategic bomber of that era. After getting the technical data, Russia copied the B-29 and called it the Tu-4. They even copied the subsystem manufacturer placards on each piece of equipment.

iu


So Obama’s first job after college was working for a CIA front company (Business International Corporation) in financial intelligence gathering, while his whore mom worked for US AID, both organizations having already been fully penetrated by the Soviets as soon as they were started.



He came out of nowhere and got elected into the US Senate, again with the help of our Soviet front groups, including Council For a Livable World. "Council for a Livable World has a history of helping to elect new candidates who can make a difference in the Senate, such as a little-known state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama and a 29-year old Joe Biden in his first statewide contest."

You ever wonder why a Black Bolshevik communist piece of trash selected an old Democrat party reject gaffe machine pedophile for his running mate in 2008? Has that ever rubbed you wrong and made you really question what was going on? Now you know. They’re Soviet plants in our political system who have been working for Soviet active measures their entire careers.

iu


Notice the parallels: Obama grandparents stole technical data and supplied it to the Soviets. Joe Biden’s emergence into the Senate coincided with B-1A cancellation and technical data being transferred to the Soviets so they could try to match our latest strategic bomber at the time, totally unable to develop their own because they’re poor and have too much blood in their vyodka.

They get Obama into the White House and what does he do? America was supposed to be post-racial, a sign of healing capped on the past with the election of a “clean and articulate” man of color for the first time. If you read the defector literature of Soviet KGB, one of their prime directive active measures programs was to incite violence and racial division in the US. That’s why they had Martin Luther King Jr. march in the last KKK Sheriff-run county in the US while they had a chance, who was on his way out of office. That’s why they poked the fires of the agitation in the civil rights movement and did everything they could to start riots and harsh police responses.

And that’s why they propped up the campaign of a no-name faggot Senator from Illinois who they got into office with funny money. Notice what Obama did with racial division, and then defense. He KEPT Bush’s SECDEF, Robert Gates. Robert Gates’ main mission was to kill the F-22 Raptor program before we could manufacture them in Full Rate Production. Multiple USAF Chiefs of Staff literally fell on their swords and sacrificed their careers to save the Raptor, but were unsuccessful. Gates killed it, giving China and Russia some time to develop their own stealth fighters, the J-20 and Su-57.

The idea that Obama overthrew Yanukovych as part of some CIA coup is one of the most absurdly retarded things I’ve ever heard. You know how much you can trust any of these mongoloids running their stupid twitter channels who spew that dimwittery.

The Ukrainian people hated Yanukovych and his Donbas region boyars who were pilfering the country. They protested against his collusion with Putin for 4 months until he fled.

THEN Hunter Biden was placed on the board of directors for Burisma at $86,666 per month. That was Putin’s way of blocking the investigation into Burisma.

Who then traveled to the UK in September of 2014 to tell David Cameron to shut down the investigation into Burisma’s CEO, Zlochevsky?

nato-summit-wales-2014-day-1.jpg


Thes Russian trolls and new kids who know nothing about Soviet Active Measures are being led around to believing that Obama was actually fighting against Putin in Ukraine, even as Obama did Putin’s bidding.

Wake up and stop believing random idiots on twitter.
during WW2 the Soviets were our allies.

We gave them a shit ton of weapons and aircraft.
 
Obama has been a Soviet asset from birth. What kind of abject retards think Obama would help Ukraine throw out Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych, after Obama helped Russia disarm Ukraine even more of its conventional weapons on the tail-end of Nunn-Lugar?

Obama’s mom and grandparents were Soviet assets and traitors dating way back. They worked for Boeing stealing Technical Data for the B-29, since Russia had several crash- or emergency-landed samples of the US’s most capable strategic bomber of that era. After getting the technical data, Russia copied the B-29 and called it the Tu-4. They even copied the subsystem manufacturer placards on each piece of equipment.

iu


So Obama’s first job after college was working for a CIA front company (Business International Corporation) in financial intelligence gathering, while his whore mom worked for US AID, both organizations having already been fully penetrated by the Soviets as soon as they were started.



He came out of nowhere and got elected into the US Senate, again with the help of our Soviet front groups, including Council For a Livable World. "Council for a Livable World has a history of helping to elect new candidates who can make a difference in the Senate, such as a little-known state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama and a 29-year old Joe Biden in his first statewide contest."

You ever wonder why a Black Bolshevik communist piece of trash selected an old Democrat party reject gaffe machine pedophile for his running mate in 2008? Has that ever rubbed you wrong and made you really question what was going on? Now you know. They’re Soviet plants in our political system who have been working for Soviet active measures their entire careers.

iu


Notice the parallels: Obama grandparents stole technical data and supplied it to the Soviets. Joe Biden’s emergence into the Senate coincided with B-1A cancellation and technical data being transferred to the Soviets so they could try to match our latest strategic bomber at the time, totally unable to develop their own because they’re poor and have too much blood in their vyodka.

They get Obama into the White House and what does he do? America was supposed to be post-racial, a sign of healing capped on the past with the election of a “clean and articulate” man of color for the first time. If you read the defector literature of Soviet KGB, one of their prime directive active measures programs was to incite violence and racial division in the US. That’s why they had Martin Luther King Jr. march in the last KKK Sheriff-run county in the US while they had a chance, who was on his way out of office. That’s why they poked the fires of the agitation in the civil rights movement and did everything they could to start riots and harsh police responses.

And that’s why they propped up the campaign of a no-name faggot Senator from Illinois who they got into office with funny money. Notice what Obama did with racial division, and then defense. He KEPT Bush’s SECDEF, Robert Gates. Robert Gates’ main mission was to kill the F-22 Raptor program before we could manufacture them in Full Rate Production. Multiple USAF Chiefs of Staff literally fell on their swords and sacrificed their careers to save the Raptor, but were unsuccessful. Gates killed it, giving China and Russia some time to develop their own stealth fighters, the J-20 and Su-57.

The idea that Obama overthrew Yanukovych as part of some CIA coup is one of the most absurdly retarded things I’ve ever heard. You know how much you can trust any of these mongoloids running their stupid twitter channels who spew that dimwittery.

The Ukrainian people hated Yanukovych and his Donbas region boyars who were pilfering the country. They protested against his collusion with Putin for 4 months until he fled.

THEN Hunter Biden was placed on the board of directors for Burisma at $86,666 per month. That was Putin’s way of blocking the investigation into Burisma.

Who then traveled to the UK in September of 2014 to tell David Cameron to shut down the investigation into Burisma’s CEO, Zlochevsky?

nato-summit-wales-2014-day-1.jpg


Thes Russian trolls and new kids who know nothing about Soviet Active Measures are being led around to believing that Obama was actually fighting against Putin in Ukraine, even as Obama did Putin’s bidding.

Wake up and stop believing random idiots on twitter.
Do you like Fishsticks?
 
Obamas grand father was closer to a British asset in Africa you fucking moron.
I do know that the guy who Obama called his step father was a high ranking tyranical official in the Indonesian military, and that he worked for Haloburton. Hence more theories about a uni-party. They know he paid for all of Obamas private schooling in Hawaii.
 
I do know that the guy who Obama called his step father was a high ranking tyranical official in the Indonesian military, and that he worked for Haloburton. Hence more theories about a uni-party. They know he paid for all of Obamas private schooling in Hawaii.
His grandfather worked for the British gov in British Kenya when it was a colony. There is a hell of a story of how he got his name Hussein.
 
i think the idea that he doesn't want to help them commit more war crimes is simple enough,
Isn’t war a crime in it of itself? Both sides are doing crazy things that would constitute war crimes. Who even fucking came up with war crimes? Wasn’t it the west? 🤔😐🤦🏻‍♂️

I really do get a good laugh out of the dumb fucks making this a one sided war. It’s either RU or UA. Yea when it comes to winning I would agree. But to get to the bottom of the conflict both sides are fuck ups. Natural resources sure do make people do fucked up shit!
 
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I do have a good question though. Back when Putin wanted to join NATO? Why did he want to do it? What the fuck was good about nato back then? Putin himself still brings that up. As if salty he was not allowed in the club of dicks!
 
during WW2 the Soviets were our allies.

We gave them a shit ton of weapons and aircraft.
Strategic bombers like the B-29 were not on the approved list for Lend Lease. Study more, post less. Cut the personal attacks as well. It just shows you have not argument.

Obama’s whore grandmother was a honey pot working at Boeing’s plant in Wichita, then they had to leave abruptly. She was a riveter on the plant floor for the B-29, but somehow ended up socializing with executives with access:

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When World War II came, Stanley enlisted in the Army. Madelyn became a Rosie-the-Riveter at Boeing Co.'s B-29 production plant in Wichita. And Stanley Ann Dunham arrived in late November 1942.

Watch now as you see the pro-soviet moles and propagandists rise to the surface in this thread, defending the likes of Comrade Hussein Obama, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, etc., trying to twist the story into some weird Russian garbage disinformation campaign about things they know nothing of.
 
I do have a good question though. Back when Putin wanted to join NATO? Why did he want to do it? What the fuck was good about nato back then? Putin himself still brings that up. As if salty he was not allowed in the club of dicks!
It would have protected him from Article 5 if he attacked other NATO members, or even would have required NATO to attack countries outside of NATO when he attacked them.

Russia sees themselves as the biggest, baddest country and looks down their nose at everyone else. Putin expected to be invited formally into NATO because of the imaginary clout he thought Russia had. He wasn’t about to stoop down to the level of some tiny nation like Hungary or Czech Republic to beg and wait in line for NATO membership, because this would show weakness to the Russian people.

Russia really turned up the disinformation heat on how NATO=bad after that, when NATO in reality is the only hope Eastern Europe has in a mutual defense pact from inevitable Russian aggression that has been ongoing for centuries over those borders.
 
ok, if you want:

Like the bold oligarch that he is, Soros denounced the arrest of Khodorkovsky as "persecution" that would force business to submit to the Russian state.

"I believe that he acted within the constraints of the law in supporting political parties. I am doing the same in the United States."

By this remark, George Soros was reminding us that he had given $10 million to the Democratic National Committee for "regime change" in the 2004 elections. Of course, he is acting within the constraints of the law, in the same way that Khodorkovsky was when he named his charitable organization, the "Open Russia Foundation," and said that there was no connection with the Soros "Open Society Institute" although they did fund some projects together.

Khodorkovsky nabbed Lord Rothschild of London and our own inimitable Henry Kissinger for his board of directors. Gifts to American charities began to flow. Khodorkovsky joined the advisory board of the U.S. Carlyle Group, a super rich private equity fund, where he conferred in Moscow with the former Secretary of State James Baker III and former President George H. W. Bush......

.....Prosecutors will have no problems in finding charges against many Russian tycoons involved in the "quick and dirty" privatization programs under Boris Yeltsin in the mid- 1990s. The theory, developed by the Clinton administration, was that once private property was established, the new owners would fight for democracy against a strong Communist challenge.

When Yeltsin won, by very dubious means, oligarchs were given state jobs and enormous powers. At that time, Condoleezza Rice, who is now national security adviser, wrote that the Clintonistas were overlooking the "looting of the country's assets by powerful people." Under Putin, the prosecutors have for four years been building their cases and, again in theory, a rule of law may emerge.
Great post. The former senior KGB elites took over what few revenue-producing industries remained in Russia, Belorussia, Ukraine, and Kazakstan. They were the only ones who really had a big picture of the Soviet system and knew its strong points for moving forward with business, thereby becoming billionaires overnight. These were the 1st Gen Oligarchs of the 1990s.

Yeltsin proved to be an even weaker leader than Gorbachev, as he as seen publicly for the drunk that he was. Russia has only experienced these times of chaos in 3 different periods of their history, namely after Fedor I from 1597-1613, then under Lenin with the Bolshevik Revolution and Russian Civil War that killed millions of Czarists, Kulaks, and Ukrainians, and then under Gorbachev and Yeltsin after him.

Everything was for sale in the 1990s, including submarines, stadiums full of tanks, MiGs, Sukhois, shipping containers full of weapons, equipment, whatever.

The oligarchs soon realized this wasn’t good for the nation as the collapse continued to spiral down the drain, as you have described. They realized Yeltsin was weak and not good for Russia, so they developed a new leadership plan to replace him carefully without causing another revolution or massive protests.

They did this by placing 3 deputy prime ministers in Yeltsin’s cabinet, one of whom was Vladimir Putin. They had been curb-stomped in the 1st Chechen War, so Putin ran the 2nd Chechen War with a scorched earth policy.

Putin was then seen as a new strong man, very popular with the Russian people so that when Yeltsin resigned on TV on Dec 31, 1999, everyone was ready for Putin to take over to reestablish a Czar strong man, not some punk party bureaucrat like Gorbachev, or a drunken stooge like Yeltsin.

Putin then did like any self-respecting Czar would do, and told all the Oligarchs who put him into power that they were no longer welcome in Russia, and would be imprisoned or disappear if he caught the slightest whiff of them getting involved in politics. They either fled abroad, were imprisoned, or killed. He then took all of “their” businesses and put his own subordinate loyalist boyars over those same companies, especially Rosneft, Gazprom, and Finance and Mineral companies and created the 2nd Generation Oligarchs. Most of these guys were former senior KGB and associates of Putin, because he’s going to reach out to people he knows.

He purged these guys in 2016 and put a new round of boyars in place as well. This is normal for Russia historically. I’ve been tracking as much of this as possible since the 1990s. My family was personally involved in Nunn-Lugar, but more in a sister base exchange program the US military did with Russia. Russian test pilots brought MiG-29s to Edwards AFB, where my dad was a translator for them, even though that was nowhere near his normal job description. He just happened to speak better Russian than anyone else they had. He was an aerospace engineer working on developmental programs at Edwards at the time. US born-and-raised, took Russian and German in high school in the 1960s, became quite fluent in German and conversational in Russian.
 
Strategic bombers like the B-29 were not on the approved list for Lend Lease. Study more, post less. Cut the personal attacks as well. It just shows you have not argument.

Obama’s whore grandmother was a honey pot working at Boeing’s plant in Wichita, then they had to leave abruptly. She was a riveter on the plant floor for the B-29, but somehow ended up socializing with executives with access:

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Watch now as you see the pro-soviet moles and propagandists rise to the surface in this thread, defending the likes of Comrade Hussein Obama, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, etc., trying to twist the story into some weird Russian garbage disinformation campaign about things they know nothing of.
Umm not one person on this forum defends Joe Biden.

I know how the B-29's got to the Soviet Union. Our Pilots landed(crashes are landings) them there after missions. Their trips were pretty interesting, especially how they returned to the US. My Grandpa played cards with the crew of the Enola Gay when they were at Eglin after the war. The point which you completely missed is at the time THE SOVIETS WERE OUR ALLIES!!!!!!

Your assertion that she was the "honey pot' is base less, gonna need to show your work. The Russians had Complete B-29's they didn't need to steal plans to build them. Hell Mr Fred my Neighbor who is now dead was also a bomber pilot and his wife, Jane, while he was over sea's was one of the Women Flying planes to Alaska to be ferried to the Soviets.
 
“I understand your point Bill, and I will act as you suggest I should” (Yeltsin to Clinton, September 12, 1998)



now, show of hands. WHO ON THIS BOARD would say those words to Bill or Hillary Clinton. Knowing everything you know about the Clintons. If you ran a country and were responsible for the prosperity and well being of your people, but gave the Clintons full control to do whatever they wanted in your country. What would that make you?
Bill Clinton was the main President under Nunn-Lugar. The main focus of Nunn-Lugar was get control and accountability of all the nukes and delivery systems we thought were in Ukraine, Belorussia, Kazakstan, Georgia, etc. After the disillusion of the USSR, everybody was concerned that nukes and WMD would end up in the hands of terrorists, NorKs, etc., so it was a counter-proliferation program that everyone was on-board with.

In exchange for help from Russia and the former USSR states that supposedly had nukes, we gave billions in aid money to those countries. The money was supposed to prop up their retirement class and economies, but of course the corrupt leaders took it all and the people never saw it. Normal for Russia/3rd world.

We also learned that Russia was running a shell game with warheads during the Cold War, with nowhere near the number of nukes claimed.

When Putin took over the Presidency, one of his main directives was to assess Russia’s nuclear arsenal, SLBM, Cruise missile, TBM, and Strategic Bomber force status. Whatever the answer was to that, he openly announced a new nuclear vitalization campaign for the Russian military. Here’s an NTI report on that from Dec 17, 2013.

Current State of Russia's Triad

Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Russia's economic collapse led to severe reductions in capabilities throughout the 1990s. Air-delivered and silo-based weapons systems became vulnerable to lack of investment, and submarine patrols at sea became virtually non-existent. [2] Russian emphasis was largely restricted to developing and fielding the low-cost truck-mounted Topol-M ICBM and keeping enough ballistic missilesubmarines at sea to maintain a credible level of deterrence.

The surge in world oil prices at the start of the century led to marked improvements in Russia's financial situation. [3] This in turn has allowed the Putin administration to begin an intense program of nuclear modernization and recapitalization. From 2013 to 2016, Russia plans to increase its nuclear weapons spending by 1.5 times. [4] While this is an impressive figure, it is useful to place it into context by describing Russia's current strategic arsenal.

Russia had access to all kinds of Uranium during the Soviet times, but after the collapse, the mining industry saw massive lay-offs and unemployment with abandoned mines and manufacturing centers all over Russia and former USSR states. Putin could not just order more enriched uranium from within the legacy chain. What did he do? Through intermediaries in Kazakstan, Belorussia, Ukraine, Cyprus, Switzerland, and Panama, he funneled $363 million into the Clinton Global Initiative.

With Comrade Obama, Biden, and Hillary in the WH, they blessed off on Putin’s acquisition of Uranium mining rights in the US and Canada, which became known as the Uranium One scandal.

This is another gigantic nail in the coffin of Putin propagandists who try to claim Obama executed a coup in Ukraine in 2014. Obama’s WH was doing Putin’s bidding, much like FDR did Stalin’s under Lend Lease in the 1940s.

I watched Russian and other international news throughout this process, where it was openly reported that Putin was revitalizing Russia’s nuclear arsenal.

2012 Article
"We mustn't tempt anyone with our weakness," Putin wrote in the government daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Putin said the government plans spending about 23 trillion rubles (about $770 billion US) over the next decade to purchase more than 400 intercontinental ballistic missiles, more than 600 combat aircraft, dozens of submarines and other navy vessels and thousands of armoured vehicles.
 
Strategic bombers like the B-29 were not on the approved list for Lend Lease. Study more, post less. Cut the personal attacks as well. It just shows you have not argument.

Obama’s whore grandmother was a honey pot working at Boeing’s plant in Wichita, then they had to leave abruptly. She was a riveter on the plant floor for the B-29, but somehow ended up socializing with executives with access:

iu




Watch now as you see the pro-soviet moles and propagandists rise to the surface in this thread, defending the likes of Comrade Hussein Obama, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, etc., trying to twist the story into some weird Russian garbage disinformation campaign about things they know nothing of.
I noticed you didn't touch Obamas Grandpa in Kenya, working for the British Colonial guberment.
 
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