Thumbs up Steve, thumbs up...and the target-rich environment of putainistas getter bigger dailyIt's almost as if one's eavesdropping into a Klan rally.
Is something going on in Ukraine?
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What was the MV of the projectile? 3,225 meters? Just curious.
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a little note here from linguistic experts, not "internet dude"
C.F. Voegelin and F.M. Voegelin. 1977. Classification and Index of the World's Languages (Elsevier). Pg. 311, "In terms of immediate mutual intelligibility, the East Slavic zone is a single language."
Bernard Comrie. 1981. The Languages of the Soviet Union (Cambridge). Pg. 145–146: "The three East Slavonic languages are very close to one another, with very high rates of mutual intelligibility...The separation of Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian as distinct languages is relatively recent...Many Ukrainians in fact speak a mixture of Ukrainian and Russian, finding it difficult to keep the two languages apart...
but you know better, you keep saying. just you, your opinion, by itself.
C.F. Voegelin and F.M. Voegelin. 1977. Classification and Index of the World's Languages (Elsevier). Pg. 311, "In terms of immediate mutual intelligibility, the East Slavic zone is a single language."
Bernard Comrie. 1981. The Languages of the Soviet Union (Cambridge). Pg. 145–146: "The three East Slavonic languages are very close to one another, with very high rates of mutual intelligibility...The separation of Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian as distinct languages is relatively recent...Many Ukrainians in fact speak a mixture of Ukrainian and Russian, finding it difficult to keep the two languages apart...
but you know better, you keep saying. just you, your opinion, by itself.
It’s actually considered asymmetric intelligibility.a little note here from linguistic experts, not "internet dude"
C.F. Voegelin and F.M. Voegelin. 1977. Classification and Index of the World's Languages (Elsevier). Pg. 311, "In terms of immediate mutual intelligibility, the East Slavic zone is a single language."
Bernard Comrie. 1981. The Languages of the Soviet Union (Cambridge). Pg. 145–146: "The three East Slavonic languages are very close to one another, with very high rates of mutual intelligibility...The separation of Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian as distinct languages is relatively recent...Many Ukrainians in fact speak a mixture of Ukrainian and Russian, finding it difficult to keep the two languages apart...
but you know better, you keep saying. just you, your opinion, by itself.
My opinion is shared by intelligent people. You have your own bunch.
well, shit! It's almost exactly like what all those educated people told me all these years. Hard as it is to believe, the internet guy with no proof is wrong.
Russian has 85% intelligibility with Rusyn (which has a small number of speakers in Central and Eastern Europe). Russian is also 85% mutually intelligible with Belarusian and Ukrainian in writing. However, Russian is only 74% mutually intelligible with spoken Belarusian and 50% mutually intelligible with spoken Ukrainian.
Russian speakers are also likely to understand some Bulgarian, along with other Slavic languages to a lesser extent.
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Russian is partially mutually intelligible with Ukrainian, Rusyn and Belarusian.Russian has 85% intelligibility with Rusyn (which has a small number of speakers in Central and Eastern Europe). Russian is also 85% mutually intelligible with Belarusian and Ukrainian in writing. However, Russian is only 74% mutually intelligible with spoken Belarusian and 50% mutually intelligible with spoken Ukrainian.
Russian speakers are also likely to understand some Bulgarian, along with other Slavic languages to a lesser extent.
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…50% , I said 60%, you made my case stronger by 10%, thank you.well, shit! It's almost exactly like what all those educated people told me all these years. Hard as it is to believe, the internet guy with no proof is wrong.
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Russian is partially mutually intelligible with Ukrainian, Rusyn and Belarusian.
Russian has 85% intelligibility with Rusyn (which has a small number of speakers in Central and Eastern Europe). Russian is also 85% mutually intelligible with Belarusian and Ukrainian in writing. However, Russian is only 74% mutually intelligible with spoken Belarusian and 50% mutually intelligible with spoken Ukrainian.
Russian speakers are also likely to understand some Bulgarian, along with other Slavic languages to a lesser extent.
What Are Mutually Intelligible Languages (Plus Common Examples) | FluentU Language Blog
Mutual intelligibility is when speakers of one language can understand a related language to some degree, like Russian and Ukrainian, or English and Scots. Click here to read more about the mutually intelligible languages for 8 popular world languages.www.fluentu.com
If you want to post the video, I'll let you win that one. Doesn't matter that it has nothing to do with Ukraine, I'd like to see it. no lie.I admire your persistence.
now, how many shots are we talking to get 2 that close together. Because even the guys running the King of Two Miles shoots are blasting off a lot of rounds.
Around 3,200 don’t remember exactly, it was a new load.
We were also testing the Tubb’s Ring, which allegedly provides stability for the projectile during the transonic transition. And it did.
Repeatable results, we were genuinely surprised.
I see, otherwise you would need impossibly high MV in order to stay above transonic. A video would tell much.
Had a forward observer, spotter and a wind coach. Took like 10 shots to get on target. Ballistic data we called was way off. Hit (3) around the outside of the bullseye. Then the (2) bangers. Pure luck.
I’ll have to dig up the video, the first hit is on a phone the second hit was filmed with a drone that was flying point blank to target. Both are time stamped. Had some reputable company.
1” group a 2 miles. That is much more interesting than you two arguing about who can understand what language.
Talk about attention seeking disorder...lets do the smallest "group" postings in completely shooting (small caliber rounds) irrelevant topic...If you're not shooting at least 152mm round @ 2500fps or more do not post groups or "hits on target"...Mortars might pass but only if they hit something...
As for language, (i'm sure its the same with US/English language) people know from what village someone is by their tone and usage of words let alone entirely different language group, especially those "challenged" ones that due to their "mind and identity traumas" decided to reinvent their language (Ukrops, Croats, Bosnian muslims etc...)...
As for language, (i'm sure its the same with US/English language) people know from what village someone is by their tone and usage of words let alone entirely different language group, especially those "challenged" ones that due to their "mind and identity traumas" decided to reinvent their language (Ukrops, Croats, Bosnian muslims etc...)...
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In Belarusian cities, military personnel with symbols and chevrons of PMC "Wagner" began to be noticed in large numbers, local monitoring channels report.
but American Pravda told me that all the Wagner guys were killed
️ In Belarusian cities, military personnel with symbols and chevrons of PMC "Wagner" began to be noticed in large numbers, local monitoring channels report.but American Pravda told me that all the Wagner guys were killed
that's a lot of artillery fire.
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Ihor Zhovkva, deputy head of Volodymyr Zelensky's office, said this on Friday in an interview with Bloomberg. “Now we have almost zero ammunition," Zhovkva said. According to him, the Ukrainian troops "run out of ammunition very quickly" due to the intensity…
SkyNews: Ukraine’s backers can’t keep up with munitions demand
Not since the huge battles of the Second World War has artillery been used so ferociously and intensively as it is now in Ukraine. At times, Russia has been firing a staggering 20,000 artillery shells a day.
Ukraine has been letting loose an average of 5,000 to 6,000 a day.
Ukraine's NATO backers are hard-pressed to keep up - the alliance secretary-general admitted as much this week. It has been a badly kept secret for some time now. Some analysts believe NATO would not have enough supplies to fight Russia itself if it came to it now. Germany is reported to have two days' worth of ammunition supplies for instance if Russian tanks came rumbling over its borders.
Data surrounding munitions is hard to come by and classified. But what is clear is there are not enough and production needs to be ramped up.
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Ihor Zhovkva, deputy head of Volodymyr Zelensky's office, said this on Friday in an interview with Bloomberg. “Now we have almost zero ammunition," Zhovkva said. According to him, the Ukrainian troops "run out of ammunition very quickly" due to the intensity… SkyNews: Ukraine’s backers can’t keep up with munitions demandNot since the huge battles of the Second World War has artillery been used so ferociously and intensively as it is now in Ukraine. At times, Russia has been firing a staggering 20,000 artillery shells a day.
Ukraine has been letting loose an average of 5,000 to 6,000 a day.
Ukraine's NATO backers are hard-pressed to keep up - the alliance secretary-general admitted as much this week. It has been a badly kept secret for some time now. Some analysts believe NATO would not have enough supplies to fight Russia itself if it came to it now. Germany is reported to have two days' worth of ammunition supplies for instance if Russian tanks came rumbling over its borders.
Data surrounding munitions is hard to come by and classified. But what is clear is there are not enough and production needs to be ramped up.
And its fine to be mr know it all. Keep at it with one sided views. Just like that sniper post. It was posted under a UA telegram a few days or weeks ago cant remember. Then all of a sudden its in RU, and I stated who knows at this point. But you seem to be dead set on it being RU as everything else. I then state that UA has taken out about 30 +- armored vehicles of sorts, to which you respond in the tone as if someone is trying to dick measure with you. Hey I have stated it all along since I first joined this thread. Propaganda on both sides in a heavy way. But you are dead set its only UA that have the bulk. Well you do you booboo. No one is making you change your opinions. Because in the end its all it is opinions. I have also stated many a times why was it that everyone was putting out EVEN US MEDIA and Political figures that Kyiv is done! Then all of a sudden UA came back and pushed them back as they did in the southern side. I'm simply putting down info from both sides. Yet you seem to blind to RU and its failures that it also has been through. Now go ahead and post your next meme. Its all your good at anyways! HAHA!lol at windex_man trying so hard here. it's ok, little buddy. I see ya. Your posts are mind numbing rubbish, so I blocked you, but I know when you are responding to me.
Photos show aging Russians forced to fight in Ukraine
The face of Russia’s war in Ukraine has wrinkles. Photos documenting the first week of Russia’s mobilization order calling for 300,000 more soldiers to be drafted show older men being forced into t…
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The good ol leg breaking days in RU! HAHA!
PS I wonder what your next meme will be now.
Amongst other Bs, you wrote, Polaks can understand Ukranian, which is pure bullshit. But keep posting and boasting your knowledge of other languages.Did you even read what I wrote?
What a horrifically written article. Journalism is dead. No resolution, just wandering thoughts.Hard Drinking and Murky Finances: How an American Veterans Group Imploded in Ukraine
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KYIV, Ukraine — Andrew Milburn, a former American Marine colonel and leader of the Mozart Group, stood in a chilly meeting room on the second floor of an apartment building in Kyiv about to deliver some bad news. In front of him sat half a dozen men who had traveled to Ukraine on their own dime to work for him.
“Guys, I’m gutted,” he said. “The Mozart Group is dead.”
The men stared back at him with blank faces.
One asked as he walked toward the door, “What should I do with my helmet?”
The Mozart Group, one of the most prominent, private American military organizations in Ukraine, has collapsed under a cloud of accusations ranging from financial improprieties to alcohol-addled misjudgments....
....After months struggling to hold itself together, Mozart was plagued by defections, infighting, a break-in at its office
headquarters and a lawsuit filed by the company’s chief financial officer, Andrew Bain, seeking the ouster of Milburn.
The lawsuit, filed in Wyoming, where Mozart is registered as a limited liability company, is a litany of petty and serious allegations, accusing Milburn among other things of making derogatory comments about Ukraine’s leadership while “significantly intoxicated,” letting his dog urinate in a borrowed apartment and “diverting company funds” and other financial malfeasance.
“I’ll be the first to admit that I’m flawed,” said Milburn, who acknowledged in an interview that he had been drinking when he made the comments on Ukraine. “We all are.” But he denied the more serious allegations about financial improprieties, calling them “utterly ridiculous.”
As spring passed to summer, more Ukrainian military units asked Mozart for training. But the Ukrainians could not pay for it, leaving Mozart reliant on a small pool of steady donors, including a group of East Coast financiers with Jewish-Ukrainian roots and a Texas tycoon.
Everyone involved said it became stressful just making payroll. And several employees said that the way the money flowed into the organization, which was overseen by Bain, was opaque.
“I can’t tell you how many people would come up to me at a party and said, “Hey, Marty, I love what you’re doing. I want to give you $10,000,” said Martin Wetterauer, one of Milburn’s old Marine friends and Mozart’s operations chief. “But we would never know if the money actually came in.”
On top of that, the people Mozart hired were not the easiest to manage. Many were grizzled combat vets who admitted to struggling with PTSD and heavy drinking. When they weren’t working, they gravitated to Kyiv’s strip clubs, bars and online dating.
On Dec. 11, a Sunday morning, Milburn and a couple of employees went to the company’s headquarters, housed in a Kyiv building Bain owns, to retrieve winter jackets, body armor and some personal luggage locked in a storeroom.
When a security guard refused to let them in, one of Milburn’s men pinned him against a wall while Milburn kicked down the door. He later said they needed the gear for missions in Donbas, the eastern Ukraine region under relentless Russian attack.
Not long after that, a clip of Milburn disparaging Ukraine’s leadership circulated widely on social media. “I happen to have a Ukraine flag tied to my bag, but I’m not, ‘Oh my God, Ukraine is so awesome,’” he said. “I understand that there are plenty of screwed-up people running Ukraine.”
The clip was taken from The Team House podcast, in which guests are invited into a living room setting to drink hard liquor with the hosts. “Of course I shouldn’t have said that,” Milburn acknowledged.
But he’s not going back to the front anytime soon. He spent hours this week in front of his laptop. He’s scouting out new business, such as training courses for hostile environments. He’s writing emails to donors.
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I had it backwards. It’s still bullshit though. A few similar words doesn’t make another language understandable.
Yeah but the A-10 would be in about the same class of aircraft as the SU-25, which both sides have and are the most commonly shot down fixed wing aircraft of this conflict.
RuAF doesn't have many MiG29s. Flankers would be more likely. Since 1990 the Flanker received much more support and modern up dates funded through export sales to countries like India, Malaysia and China. MiG went broke and no development was done. Russia had to combine Mikoyan Gervich and Sukoui into the UAC. The addition of HIMARS systems have pushed the Russia Air Force back which makes the short legged 29 less desirable giving it hardly any loiter time. Its really a point defense fighter, Scramble quick, fight, land. The flankers carry nearly 30,000LBS of fuel internally, they have some range, better weapon systems, jamming and loiter time.
Yes surface to air is still a threat from both sides.
Air Superiority is in Russias favor. Ukraine's Air force is a skeleton of what it was pre 2014. Is it NATO dominance over Iraq superiority, no. But no super power stepped in to help Iraq either, who got jumped by 43 nations, like has happened in Ukraine who is being propped up by NATO. With out that... they'd been completely fucked, worse than now, a year ago.
Russia is not thowing the kitchen sink at this. Have yet to hear any reports of a Felon up there. BTW NATO is not throwing the kitchen sink at this either.
Bud, I can read both Polish and Belorussian and understand what it says, I never studied either language.
THE ONLY reason is because I know both Ukrainian and Russian. That’s why I said that it’s an asymmetric intelligibility. Most Ukrainians, like 80%, know both Russian and Ukrainian, that gives elevated ability to understand other Slavic languages.
Polish will be more challenging than Belorussian because of alphabet differences.
THE ONLY reason is because I know both Ukrainian and Russian. That’s why I said that it’s an asymmetric intelligibility. Most Ukrainians, like 80%, know both Russian and Ukrainian, that gives elevated ability to understand other Slavic languages.
Polish will be more challenging than Belorussian because of alphabet differences.
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I believe Russia used slash and burn on their retreat (strategic withdraw - depends on who you ask) against the Germans. If you remove cover, enemy has nowhere to hide.
Isn't that how 'recruiting goals' were met in Shanghai?
I wish I could recall where I read a really good article stating that Putin should not stop where it is now, but needs to completely remove all NATO/Nazi/anti-Russian influence from Ukraine completely or this will simply repeat itself when NATO rebuilds Ukraine's military again.
This is from R gov:
www.rt.com
This is from R gov:
Andrey Sushentsov: Here’s why Ukraine’s Zelensky wants a long war with Russia
The Ukrainian leader has shown no interest in seeking a peace deal with Moscow, and it’s all part of a big gamble
Federal draft. What’s the difference between what is seen in this video and USA during Vietnam and both World wars? Nothing.
Russia Today, a trusted source of informationI wish I could recall where I read a really good article stating that Putin should not stop where it is now, but needs to completely remove all NATO/Nazi/anti-Russian influence from Ukraine completely or this will simply repeat itself when NATO rebuilds Ukraine's military again.
This is from R gov:
Andrey Sushentsov: Here’s why Ukraine’s Zelensky wants a long war with Russia
The Ukrainian leader has shown no interest in seeking a peace deal with Moscow, and it’s all part of a big gamble
Russia was correct about Nordstream...Russia Today, a trusted source of information
Kinda wish they'd tell us what was on Hillary's hard drive
Like I said, from the Russian government.Russia Today, a trusted source of information
That said, it's an opinion article. And RT has been very accurate in many regards to facts.
What they're very good at is interlacing bias through the facts they choose to present, but it doesn't mean that what they do present isn't factual.
Western media is just straight made up lies and bulls*t. MSM in the US doesn't even try in any manner to use any facts.
Maybe it's cultural, but the Russians present arguments clearer, more logically, with fewer appeals to emotion.
Western media says Ukraine is winning! Ukraine is killing 824 Russians a day! Ukrainian forces are smart and Russians are so stupid.
But a 12,000 strong garrison of Ukrainian soldiers are being surrounded and possibly cut off now in Bakhmut by Russian forces... need more Western tanks RIGHT NOW (when Ukraine still has hundreds of them already)... and send the F16s if we want Ukraine to win!
I'm certain both sides have done stupid mistakes, propaganda is going to spring from both sides... but know there are multiple sides in this conflict.
Russia; EU; USA; Ukraine
Applies to the information presented as well.
I read through MSN and CNN as well, but the logic just doesn't add up. Russians losing far more people... but still gaining territory. Ukraine is tearing up Russian armor, aircraft, artillery... but Ukraine keeps needing new equipment. Ukraine yes winning but keeps needing bigger, better, longer range weapons to fight the Russians with.
Anyone confirm the Ukrainians are running out of ammunition? I keep reading that the West cannot supply the Ukrainians enough ammo for rifles or artillery to continue fighting. But the Rs are just raining artillery on the U positions. Yet Russians are dying in droves.
How many Ukrainian soldiers are left to fight? Even with 1:1 ratio of casualties, R wins by attrition.
An un-redacted list of Epstein clients.
On its worst day it is better than CNN & MSNBC.Russia Today, a trusted source of information
initial reactions to new events are one thing. But for educated people, opinions are formed over a long period of time, and come from a mass of data, observations, and personal knowledge and experiences. So if others out there disagree, they can go for it. this is what I think.
Before 1991, if this had happened, I'd be waving a Ukrainian flag and cursing the communists. But it's not 1991. The world has changed. Now, in 2023 I know how utterly depraved our government is. I know how they are completely untrustworthy in even the smallest things. I know that they operate fraudulently, with fraudulent elections and a fraudulent propaganda media which is a mirror image of the old soviet rags - there is no Truth in News and no News in Truth, they used to say -and now it's just as evident here. For over a decade they have admitted to bombarding the American public with lying propaganda instead of news. The Feds and the US Army pay people to interfere with online discussions in order to subvert opinion. Hollywood contributes it's piece of the indoctrination, and the schools add theirs. All of it is designed to destroy our culture and prevent our kids from enjoying the freedom and opportunity that should be their inheritance.
And I'm supposed to trust these abject liars when they accuse another country of the same things they accuse American conservatives of? The same bullshit, canned accusations that they use over and over, but which sound more like projection each time. No way. Russia is no threat to me. Russia does not take my money. Russia does not attack my religion. Russia does not indoctrinate my kids. Russia does not install fake politicians to rule over me. Russia is a non factor.
Ukraine let the radicals take over in 2014. The radical juanta in Kiev wanted to shoot ethnic Russians, burn them alive, beat them, and eventually declare them to be terrorists and then unleash the military on them. Ukraine is the epitome of a totalitarian state. The people who rebelled against that totalitarianism are philosophically no different than the ones who did it here in 1775. So how can Americans condemn anyone who wants self-determination. Is Russia pure? I don't care if they're not. That isn't the question. Just like I would not care if the French were pure when they supported Washington's army. I know Ukraine is filthy, with a government of filthy whores who have whored themselves out to the NWO, and allowed it to use them as a tool against Russia, as a way to take down a state who does not fall in line with their great reset. And now those globalist tools are close to starting a nuclear war. So fuck the Trotskyist neocons, fuck Ukraine, and everyone else who supports their bullshit. The sooner Zelensky and his NWO freak show, Nazis, Pedos, Fags, and crazies are kicked out, the better it will be for everyone there. And for the love of all things holy, if this world is going to have any kind of future, disband NATO and just let nations exist without constant threats and intimidation. My opinion, based on my own knowledge, observations, and experiences.
Generations within a country can change. The generation of the Bolsheviks and Stalin were ruthless to their enemy even their own people who didn't agree. Is modern day Russia under Putin the same? I don't think so. Is the Russian military ruthless at times? I would say yes at times. I would also say that the Spartans, Romans, Greeks, and Persians were also ruthless on the battlefield and to enemy civilians. The flip-side is each of these civilization contributed greatly to the advancement of the arts, math, science, literature and so on. The Americans are not so innocent and some soldiers killed German and Japanese POW's in WWII. Not on a large scale because it was considered a crime but were allied soldiers put on trial for their crimes? You will find that most allied war crimes were often not investigated or investigated with no actions taken. The victor writes the history books and it's easy to justify horrible actions if the person being killed is described as less than human like Nazis, Japs or Commies were described. This is no different today as Ukraine and Western media describes Russians as Orcs or monsters who are not human. Some Ukraine units are killing Russian POW's and it's bragged about online. Ukraine was killing Ukraine citizens who were ethnic Russian before this SMO started. The problem is the Ukraine government secretly supports these killings and fully equips Ukraine Nazi Units for the sole purpose of killing Russians both combatants and non-combatants. Individuals can be guilty of war crimes and they should be punished but it's totally different when killings is State sanctioned. Ukraine has a lot of blood on it's hands and it goes back to WWII when over 1 million Ukraine Jews were killed by fellow Ukrainians.Countries where the US is currently at war killing locals? Killing enemy combatants is a lot different than slaying local civilians like Russia has done to itself and all of its neighbors throughout history.
US has not killed millions in the past 30 years, even if you add up Desert Storm (32 years ago), Afghanistan, and Iraq. There weren’t even millions of combatants or proximal civilians, and US military operations near civilians are heavily restricted per ROE. That trickles down to combatant commanders with limits on warhead sizes, weapons, and specifics to contact that severely limit US and coalition forces from doing like Russia does.
China and Russia have killed a combined 120 million of their own populations, not including China’s infanticide One Child policy. We’re seeing a discrepancy in China’s census where 100 million females who should have been born since 1980 simply don’t exist.
Chinese Communist “cultural revolution"
In foreign excursions, Russia has murdered untold millions, including my own family members in the Russo-Finnish Winter War of 1939. Russia uses scorched-earth tactics with no ROE or any discipline among their commanders and soldiers. If the US was guilty of what Russia claims, nations would never speak out against us openly out of fear of reprisal.
Chechnya:
You will never see photos of US troops standing over bodies they threw into mass graves after executing POWs and civilians like this. This is one of the stark differences between the US and Russia. Then to hear people actually believing the US does this, while portraying Russia as innocent is worse than an offense to the fallen innocents who have suffered under the brutality of these demonic regimes.
Wherever you’re getting your upside-down Russian information and propaganda from, I suggest cutting those sources of lies out of your feed.
so i was watching pbs newshour to get caught up on the narratives and they flashed up a graphic that up to 7500 ukrainian civilians have died since the start of the war almost a year ago. i consider each death a tragedy, but that isn't so bad considering we had killed up to 4500 civilians in the first few days of the iraq war.
It’s a rough figure for confirmed deaths, no confirmed data from occupied territories. Some estimates for total civilian casualties go up to 250,000
British Intelligence has reported last year that there are at least 70 towns that have mass burial sites like Bucha.
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