They want any disobedient citizen dead. The ones who will ignore their corruption and treachery and keep working like slaves to pay the tax get to live.
My employer mandated the vaccine. Anyone else?
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WE are so fucked....everything. Hoping for an asteroid. We need a reset. We have to get back to things that matter.
This will have an impact….
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U.S. Supreme Court buoys religious employees who seek accommodations at work
The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday bolstered the ability of employees to obtain accommodations at work for their religious practices, reviving a lawsuit by an evangelical Christian former mail carrier accusing the Postal Service of discrimination after being disciplined for refusing to show up...
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This will have an impact….
U.S. Supreme Court buoys religious employees who seek accommodations at work
The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday bolstered the ability of employees to obtain accommodations at work for their religious practices, reviving a lawsuit by an evangelical Christian former mail carrier accusing the Postal Service of discrimination after being disciplined for refusing to show up...
Hmmm...how about religious exemption for forced death jabs?
I’m just now seeing this.
Nice work Phil. Keep up the good fight my friend. Don’t let them forget who you are.
Remember the squeaky wheel….
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In a perfect close to pride month, the Supreme Court ruled Friday that the alphabet people cannot force you to affirm beliefs you don't hold.
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We have 7 dudes that were granted religious exemptions but told they could not be accommodated - it would be too big a burden on the mission.
Yet the state issued orders making the accommodations we sought mandatory just a month after my suspension when vaccinated Troopers continued to get COVID probably taking 10 days free vacation to sit home asymptomatic.
These Saintly Seven should already be healed. There has been some negotiation but it’s comedy on the part of the state basically telling them they must plead guilty and accept time served. All seven told the state to eat a big dick.
An injunction kept them from being fired so they have been suspended without pay more than two years now.
Doing some internet sleuthing I found this gem I was never aware of by the civil service commissioner…..
If this were done I would have LEOSA back and perhaps the school resource officer position I applied for a few weeks ago might have earned a response. Not too many places willing to say “Hey we hired a Dishonorable Discharge to watch your kids”
With all the favorable wind I’m concerned in my Federal case affidavit I might have said too much.
Most of my fellow Dishonorables followed a template in their affidavits. Mine is a bit more involved.
For more reasons than purely fetal cells (reason enough) these mandates are unlawful.
My concern is if they accept my affidavit than there is precedent to never again allow a mandate such as this which would be my intent.
Our case
Barbosa et al v. Massachusetts Department of State Police (1:22-cv-12013), Massachusetts District Court
Barbosa et al v. Massachusetts Department of State Police (1:22-cv-12013), Massachusetts District Court, Filed: 11/23/2022
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The affidavits were filed May 12, 23 and my affidavit is 18 of 30.
I think the other 29 are all almost word for word the same.
Hope I don’t get screwed for missing the memo.
You would make a great school resource officer.SCOTUS Decision In 303 Creative Is A Perfect End To Pride Month
In a perfect close to pride month, the Supreme Court ruled Friday that the alphabet people cannot force you to affirm beliefs you don't hold.
We have 7 dudes that were granted religious exemptions but told they could not be accommodated - it would be too big a burden on the mission.
Yet the state issued orders making the accommodations we sought mandatory just a month after my suspension when vaccinated Troopers continued to get COVID probably taking 10 days free vacation to sit home asymptomatic.
These Saintly Seven should already be healed. There has been some negotiation but it’s comedy on the part of the state basically telling them they must plead guilty and accept time served. All seven told the state to eat a big dick.
An injunction kept them from being fired so they have been suspended without pay more than two years now.
Doing some internet sleuthing I found this gem I was never aware of by the civil service commissioner…..
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If this were done I would have LEOSA back and perhaps the school resource officer position I applied for a few weeks ago might have earned a response. Not too many places willing to say “Hey we hired a Dishonorable Discharge to watch your kids”
With all the favorable wind I’m concerned in my Federal case affidavit I might have said too much.
Most of my fellow Dishonorables followed a template in their affidavits. Mine is a bit more involved.
For more reasons than purely fetal cells (reason enough) these mandates are unlawful.
My concern is if they accept my affidavit than there is precedent to never again allow a mandate such as this which would be my intent.
Our case
Barbosa et al v. Massachusetts Department of State Police (1:22-cv-12013), Massachusetts District Court
Barbosa et al v. Massachusetts Department of State Police (1:22-cv-12013), Massachusetts District Court, Filed: 11/23/2022
The affidavits were filed May 12, 23 and my affidavit is 18 of 30.
I think the other 29 are all almost word for word the same.
Hope I don’t get screwed for missing the memo.
It sounded like a cool job.
Christian school, required proof of weapons qualification and monthly training with more advanced training quarterly.
Would have made going to Sig quarterly again a possibility.
They required LEOSA status. My DD prevents that.
It would be tough getting back up to speed though. My skills suck now. I may have shot pistol 2-3 times in the last two years and I get to the rifle range infrequently.
I signed up for a scoped rifle class at Sig in September. Won’t require much more than laying on my mat and and making a clean trigger break but looking forward to it.
What is the reason that they won't overlook that, it was bullshit. I, you, and they know it.
Don't beg, but don't give up, you'd be the best school resource officer around
Probably because the massholes that right the rules in the state won't allow him to carry a firearm
It was this time last year they pulled our licenses.
Lied and threatened us with criminal charges if we didn’t find a place to lawfully store our guns.
Local PD said they can eat a dick and got me my license in record time.
Come to find out they never pulled our licenses….it was all intimidation and bullshit.
That alone should be a retaliation charge with a pretty good settlement.
Problem with the SRO job is they want LEOSA for the ability to carry in otherwise prohibited places and the fact it is renewed through a department vetting process.
Around here the sheriff's department covers all the sro for the public schools. After the private school shooting a few weeks ago the governor was working on a bill for them to cover the private schools also. Since property taxes are paying for the sheriff's department and public schools even if you don't have children or your children are in private schools I think it should be covered.
All police officers should strive to be pmclaine. Great speech.
You may be doing a great work in Mass. Keep in mind that although it could make the world a better place, you and yours will or are paying the price personally. Heros are feted because they sacrifice personally for the benefit of others. My altruism is getting pretty raggedy these days. The USMC may not want to claim me much longer. You could move and take your family away from that BS.
The best things that have happened to me involved forced removal of super stressful conditions, usually with lots of unknowns added in. I can’t say it was comfortable at the time, but thank fucking God it happened.
One thing to remember. The institution is greater than the people. They can redesign, reconstruct or completely change it and you are not important. Either you conform or be discarded. It doesn't matter if you are a private or a four star general, a mayor , a governor or even the president. They will simply shed those that don't conform and move on.
PM sent about excellent training opportunities in your AO.
Michael MacDonald, Hopedale, Former State Trooper - Health Rights MA
“There comes a point in many people’s lives where… you must decide between doing what you are told to do when you know it’s wrong and…doing what you know is right even when it’s the harder choice or unpopular opinion”
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John Hancock, Paul Revere, John and Samuel Adams would be disappointed in their home State of Massachusetts today.
A long term update on my nephew. The CG has sent a letter that any and all negative records regarding his refusal to take the shot be removed from his record. He and a handful of others have “won”.
It cost him a lot of energy and derision but he has come through with his honor and conscience intact. He says now that he is vindicated he will be separating at the next opportunity and will tell everyone considering serving to run the other way.
It cost him a lot of energy and derision but he has come through with his honor and conscience intact. He says now that he is vindicated he will be separating at the next opportunity and will tell everyone considering serving to run the other way.
Never.
Agent Orange
Gulf War Syndrome
Camp Legeune water
Weapons of mass destruction
And many more.
There maybe some settlement in forty or fifty years when most people are dead. Which is the SOP
We do it all here, SO. There are two groups, the SRO's and DARE. The SRO's are "paid for" by the schools during the school year, in the summer they go back to the road. The Dare girls this is all they do.
Personally I would not like it, parents are pretty petty, I deal with enough stupid daily, I don't need more emotional stupidity.
"Paid for". It's a political way of money accounting for budget increases for both.
The school board: We need more funds for school resource officers and safety of the children.
Sheriff Department: We need more funds to protect and serve. We are short staffed for a vast majority of the year because we provide officers to the schools.
Shody Vaxx quality meant some batches were near guaranteed to cause damage guess who got those batches ,employer mandated folks ,nurses and doctors
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Well no, I put paid for in quotes because public schools are tax supported and so is the SO. It all goes back to the tax payers money. The schools are "their own thing" here, the money goes straight to the "school" to make it easy.
Here our budget is assigned by the county. So both ".gov institutions" don't get money straight from the county. But we do get it from the taxpayer.
I am not sure how it works other places but that is it here.
Also anything we sell, be it an old patrol car, or something like gunz that can not be returned that money goes back to the county. We can not "make money". Things like the CCW and such can have a fee, but that fee is generally set by the county or state and is to cover costs of people doing business. If you want a copy of a report there is a cost with that to cover the time and supplies (CD,DVD bluray...) that go into it. General information requests are the same way.
IIRC in the beginning the vax was supposed to be kept at 80° below zero. Then all of a sudden they stopped talking about it
And this shocks you? You are not to remember any of that stuff they said, none of it.
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The “Saintly Six” were reinstated today.
These 6 guys, there were actually 7, were recognized to have sincerely held beliefs.
Despite that they went through three trials and were put in the pipeline to be dishonorably discharged.
An injunction issued preventing their firing and today the arbitrator reversed it with backpay..
www.boston25news.com
The 7th Trooper, on his last night of work, next day all his gear was being recovered and he would be suspended, responded to a call of a wrong way driver and ended up going car to car to stop him. He was out injured and they didnt get to try him so when the mandate ended he was told when you are healed just come back let bygones be bygones.
Those that were forced to resign or retire are still out.
I’m one of “Bakers Dozen” the 13 Dishonorably Discharged”
No relief yet for anyone else but today helps.
These 6 guys, there were actually 7, were recognized to have sincerely held beliefs.
Despite that they went through three trials and were put in the pipeline to be dishonorably discharged.
An injunction issued preventing their firing and today the arbitrator reversed it with backpay..
Arbitrator rules Mass. state troopers who lost jobs over COVID-19 vaccine refusal to be reinstated
The arbitrator has found that the Department of the State Police did violate the Trooper’s rights to “anti-discrimination and affirmative action when they were denied reasonable accommodations for their sincerely held religious beliefs.”
www.boston25news.com
The 7th Trooper, on his last night of work, next day all his gear was being recovered and he would be suspended, responded to a call of a wrong way driver and ended up going car to car to stop him. He was out injured and they didnt get to try him so when the mandate ended he was told when you are healed just come back let bygones be bygones.
Those that were forced to resign or retire are still out.
I’m one of “Bakers Dozen” the 13 Dishonorably Discharged”
No relief yet for anyone else but today helps.
The “Saintly Six” were reinstated today.
These 6 guys, there were actually 7, were recognized to have sincerely held beliefs.
Despite that they went through three trials and were put in the pipeline to be dishonorably discharged.
An injunction issued preventing their firing and today the arbitrator reversed it with backpay..
Arbitrator rules Mass. state troopers who lost jobs over COVID-19 vaccine refusal to be reinstated
The arbitrator has found that the Department of the State Police did violate the Trooper’s rights to “anti-discrimination and affirmative action when they were denied reasonable accommodations for their sincerely held religious beliefs.”
The 7th Trooper, on his last night of work, next day all his gear was being recovered and he would be suspended, responded to a call of a wrong way driver and ended up going car to car to stop him. He was out injured and they didnt get to try him so when the mandate ended he was told when you are healed just come back let bygones be bygones.
Those that were forced to resign or retire are still out.
I’m one of “Bakers Dozen” the 13 Dishonorably Discharged”
No relief yet for anyone else but today helps.
My wife just saw this this morning in the news, and I had to come over here and see.
So, pmcclain, you’re not one of the ones that will be reinstated?
Nope I’m in “Bakers Dozen” one of the thirteen denied recognition of our exemption requests and dishonorably discharged.
It certainly helps us and our Union Grievance will come up next.
Denying an exemption is a very high bar to pass and higher still is proving that accommodations would irreparably harm the ability of the organization to function.
What is totally fucked is that working in the same office was a Trooper that was medically accommodated and a Trooper that was recognized to have sincerely held beliefs but denied accommodations because it would be too burdensome.
One thought would be that they set up that scenario as a poison pill in order to ensure our cases would succeed but facts are they are that inept to realize the absurdity of their statements and actions.
By statute a Dishonorably Discharged Trooper can not be rehired unless by the Governor or Legislative action.
If we are called back it will be a first.
When the State Pllice was forced to consolidate with some other hack police agencies in 1991 the Troopers that had been through the Academy and considered themselves “Real Troopers” as opposed to the sheep dipped Troopers from the registry, Capitol and municipal police departments given uniforms and instant seniority, had silver pins made up “RT” that they wore on their uniforms to designate themselves “Real Troopers”.
I want thirteen pins “DD” designating “Dishonorable Discharge” should I ever wear the uniform again.
There won’t be thirteen though. One is now a NH Trooper and loves it. Another is a ballisticisn in Oklahoma and thinks it’s the best thing to happen to his family.
Thawed batches, actually room temp. batches may have saved many people!
Came to read what effect this may have and hope it creates precedent for a very favorable outcome for you and the other 12 DD troopers Phil.
I would say you should move to a free state and be a trooper or LEO there.
Free people need good and moral men as LEO too.
Me and the future Mrs were looking at rural property in a free place this week.
My 11 yr old said “I would miss my friends.
Oh yeah, and my mom…”.
And then got going about having a shooting range off the back deck and being able to be outside almost all the time (she has learned people are scarier than bears or mtn lions and knows it is true)
Never again mentioned missing anyone again.
Just about how great it would be.
Lotta good places for your boy to fish…..
I would say you should move to a free state and be a trooper or LEO there.
Free people need good and moral men as LEO too.
Me and the future Mrs were looking at rural property in a free place this week.
My 11 yr old said “I would miss my friends.
Oh yeah, and my mom…”.
And then got going about having a shooting range off the back deck and being able to be outside almost all the time (she has learned people are scarier than bears or mtn lions and knows it is true)
Never again mentioned missing anyone again.
Just about how great it would be.
Lotta good places for your boy to fish…..
Sorry to derail the thread, future Mrs? Congratulations!!!!!Came to read what effect this may have and hope it creates precedent for a very favorable outcome for you and the other 12 DD troopers Phil.
I would say you should move to a free state and be a trooper or LEO there.
Free people need good and moral men as LEO too.
Me and the future Mrs were looking at rural property in a free place this week.
My 11 yr old said “I would miss my friends.
Oh yeah, and my mom…”.
And then got going about having a shooting range off the back deck and being able to be outside almost all the time (she has learned people are scarier than bears or mtn lions and knows it is true)
Never again mentioned missing anyone again.
Just about how great it would be.
Lotta good places for your boy to fish…..
I thought you were smarter than this! A prenup is $2k done right.....please, please please spend that money!!!!
Man there is some real shit in the policing profession. The public review web page of records came out.
Some pretty wild stuff in there and most of those dudes are still working.
They determined to character assassinate us….
Anyone reading it would think “Geez if a cop only gets a 30 day suspension for an OUI what did this guy do to get terminated?”
Makes it seem like we were child molesters or wife beaters.
I find it interesting my old agency won’t even claim me as a former member but guys with real claims of misconduct and still working are still named to that agency. I’m an “UnAssociated Officer”.
One of my unvax comrades went to another department after he RESIGNED rather than get the shot and his record indicates he was terminated from his new department. A slander on him and his new department.
I’m an old dude with no fucks to give but for the kids that are with me in my redoubt this shit will follow them forever.
Some are in new agencies and when some Karen sees they were terminated for conduct unbecoming how far will their new HR go to keep them employed?
Pick up a shirt or donate to our GSG so we can beat these guys like a drum please.
Some pretty wild stuff in there and most of those dudes are still working.
They determined to character assassinate us….
Anyone reading it would think “Geez if a cop only gets a 30 day suspension for an OUI what did this guy do to get terminated?”
Makes it seem like we were child molesters or wife beaters.
I find it interesting my old agency won’t even claim me as a former member but guys with real claims of misconduct and still working are still named to that agency. I’m an “UnAssociated Officer”.
One of my unvax comrades went to another department after he RESIGNED rather than get the shot and his record indicates he was terminated from his new department. A slander on him and his new department.
I’m an old dude with no fucks to give but for the kids that are with me in my redoubt this shit will follow them forever.
Some are in new agencies and when some Karen sees they were terminated for conduct unbecoming how far will their new HR go to keep them employed?
Pick up a shirt or donate to our GSG so we can beat these guys like a drum please.
Good grief! This is so fucked up. Some shithead wants you to suffer for a long time for questioning them which must make you even more confident in your decision.
My son's dept was the opposite. They were not asked to get jabbed and only a small number did on their own will. Also from day 1 the chief said do not respond to any karen calls about mask enforcement and do not enforce any mask or gathering rules period.
I wish they were not so expensive but each order has to be considered a “custom” order by the vendor. They may set up and print one shirt or they may print five. It would be cheapest if we ordered 200 but than one of us eould have to sort sizes, ship and put money up front.
Dude helping us with them is good to go. His kid was fired from a Fed job for not jabbing and the business left MA due the state BS.
Only $5 of a shirt purchase goes to our GSG but I think the visual - anywhere in the country - is good to see and say “We are done! No more mandated shit for Me!”
Thank you for the support.
By the way got a lot of questions about the Pine Tree on the chest.
Apparently people are not familiar with the “Appeal to Heaven” revolutionary war flag.
Originally it was going to be a MA state seal but I am not enamored of wearing that symbol these days.
The Pine Tree flag is actually still an official MA flag. It is our state naval service ensign. Of course in 1973 they “secularized” it and removed the words “An Appeal to Heaven”
Can’t have God in MA
I think that print has immense meaning in our fight and peeps should know why it is there.
Just another crack in the wall.
These guys run the boats in the steamship authority that run back and forth to Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket. They like MSP are part of the Executive branch of govt subject to the mandate while the courts and legislative branches never had one.
When the mandate came out they requested an injunction of their exemption denials and the court basically said your case has no merit and no chance of proceeding - no injunction.
Those eleven were fired - I met a few.
The appeal found that based on a Maine case that determined if you can recognize medical exemptions you can recognize religious exemptions so their case does have merit and should go to trial. They have been kicked back into court.
Recent Supreme Court rulings make it pretty clear that requesting a religious exemption is protected and must be accommodated.
The 13 of us that were fired have an arbitration hearing this month. I think it will come out positive. The only question will be if they immediately surrender or they decide they need to save face and drag it out for months.
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