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i don't believe in their justification, but i suppose it is only fair to give their side of it.
this seems like it took a lot of planning and wasn't a spontaneous response...perhaps gaslighting like benghazi.
Lies, Jews never feigned. They are always victims. Professional victims. And they NEVER provoke or make up shit. Such an alliance with Americans. Our strongest ally. Bless.
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Yes once they got into settlements, but the breakout of folks on foot from Gaza itself is inexplicable
You do not seem to understand how well-isolated Gaza is . there is near 1.5km wide kill zone with overlapping fields of fire and automated machine gun nests,a 7-meter concrete wall with sensors, remote-control machine guns and barbed wire multiple patrol lines with fences in between, anti-vehicle ditch,And 6 or 7km wide no Israeli zone where there are no settlements or housing, MBTs patrol the perimeter, and every piece of tech known to man is used to guard it , they literaly have vibration sensors embedded into the ground and an underground wall as well.
If the Israeli security services were not in on it , letting it happen for XYZ reason, then this is reminiscent of Iraqi army falling apart when 800 dudes with pickups arrived.
Of course, i can imagine wast technological and firepower overmatch combined with a Wall breeds complacency.
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Yes once they got into settlements, but the breakout of folks on foot from Gaza itself is inexplicable
But you do not seem to understand how well-isolated Gaza is . there is 1.5km wide kill zone with overlapping fields of fire and automated machine gun nests,a 7-meter concrete wall with sensors, remote-control machine guns and barbed wire multiple patrol lines with fences in between ,anti vehicle ditch
And 6 or 7km wide no Israeli zone where there are no settlements or housing, MBTs patrol the perimeter, and every piece of tech known to man is used to guard it , they literaly have vibration sensors embedded into the ground and an underground wall as well.
If the Israeli security services was not in on it , letting it happen , then this is reminiscent of Iraqi army falling apart when 800 dudes with pickups arrived.
Of course, i can imagine wast technological and firepower overmatch combined with a Wall breeds complacency would be strange if it wouldn't when you can litteraly from comfort of you home, machine gun anyone attempting to cross.
What was the deal a few months ago with the mil protesting some justice reforms?
Didn’t a large portion threaten to quit?
Perhaps this is their revenge?
Seems kind of cutting off the nose to spite the face though.
(Off topic). I see no reason our southern border shouldn’t look exactly like that...Maybe
Yes once they got into settlements, but the breakout of folks on foot from Gaza itself is inexplicable
You do not seem to understand how well-isolated Gaza is . there is near 1.5km wide kill zone with overlapping fields of fire and automated machine gun nests,a 7-meter concrete wall with sensors, remote-control machine guns and barbed wire multiple patrol lines with fences in between, anti-vehicle ditch,And 6 or 7km wide no Israeli zone where there are no settlements or housing, MBTs patrol the perimeter, and every piece of tech known to man is used to guard it , they literaly have vibration sensors embedded into the ground and an underground wall as well.
If the Israeli security services were not in on it , letting it happen for XYZ reason, then this is reminiscent of Iraqi army falling apart when 800 dudes with pickups arrived.
Of course, i can imagine wast technological and firepower overmatch combined with a Wall breeds complacency.
Technically we do not have an enemy country that has verbally committed to killing us on our southern border…..since 1916 anyway.
They are the people living their own alternative reality, and attempting to make the rest of us participate. They finally paid a price for their stupidity.
Is that because we no longer HAVE a southern border?
nevertheless, death does cross that border daily, along with rape, child molestation, addiction and misery.
I don’t think people living in states that are not border states have any idea what this invasion looks like up close and personal like. It’s quite the shit show.
True but they haven’t said they intended that.
We know they do but it can be ignored because they haven’t said it.
not posting because i concur, but this is getting to be a more common opinion.
unfortunately, mass casualty events being used to push an agenda or justify mass murder or war is not unprecedented in my memory.
unfortunately, mass casualty events being used to push an agenda or justify mass murder or war is not unprecedented in my memory.
Later today (maybe right now) the Democratic Socialists (AKA Bernie's Party of Peace) are holding a rally in New York in support of the Arab Terrorists. Yes, that's right... a senior Senator leads this group of American traitors. Sadly, the commies in my state voted for him.... year after year.
Wonder if Iran has given him a free house or two? I mean, he has quite the collection now.
Sirhr
PS: 250 bodies at a "Peace Rally." Which I guarantee was all about supporting the Arab Terrorists (I'm done calling them Palestinians)... against the meanies in Israel.
I hope the last thought going through their heads... along with the bullets from Arab machine guns... was "I am so glad I am here giving my life for peace." Instead, they were probably screaming "I am dying because of bad Israelis." So... no tears shed. You travel thousands of miles from Canada, Norway, USA, Australia to subvert another nation in a 'peace rally'... and end up gettting killed by terrorists who subscribe to that whole "Religion of Peace" farce... well Irony usually accompanies Darwin when it comes to Karma...
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cory bush also released her statement, condemning the violence but calling for the end to any funding or aid to the apartheid israeli government.
Just like the idiot "POET" in NY that was stabbed to death by the 13% of the population he advocated for . Darwin awards all around.
Is that from /pol/?not posting because i concur, but this is getting to be a more common opinion.
unfortunately, mass casualty events being used to push an agenda or justify mass murder or war is not unprecedented in my memory.
i don't believe in their justification, but i suppose it is only fair to give their side of it.
this seems like it took a lot of planning and wasn't a spontaneous response...perhaps gaslighting like benghazi.
Are you fucking kidding me? Marching through a building is rationale to murder 100s of innocents?
Sad but true!
Posting up outrageous propaganda in a lame attempt to "allow the other side of the story" is pure insanity. Really incredibly naive, short-sighted and furthering the argument of idiots.
it is still history told in their own words. you might not like it, but it doesn't mean nobody should be exposed to it.
of course there are those that want to push a one sided narrative that only one side is capable of doing terrible things.
These are comparable to a groomer telling us why a 3rd grade child has to learn about gay sex. There is no merit to the content and nothing to be gained except more chaos.
i hope this wakes some people up, but it won't.
Odd. Very odd. Considering hamas has consistently botched simple IED attacks. Sudden battalion level capabilities against fortified targets and armor. Why were these anti armor capabilities not demonstrated the last time Israeli tanks rolled in gaza which was just months ago if they are this well armed and organized? Is the reporting of Israeli tank losses to be believed or BS? Now the reporting says 4 apaches were hit but landed safely. What exactly killed all these tanks if true? Where did the weapons come from and how did hamas suddenly gain proficency in their use? A quad copter is not a Lancet. A kornet does not shoot itself. Its hard to know whats going on. hamas could have upped their game. There are reports hamas purchased arms from the black market that came out of the Ukraine conflict. Things change. Usually what is witnessed is slow change where capabilities are learned and demonstrated. Where did the sudden proficiency come from?Maybe
Yes once they got into settlements, but the breakout of folks on foot from Gaza itself is inexplicable
You do not seem to understand how well-isolated Gaza is . there is near 1.5km wide kill zone with overlapping fields of fire and automated machine gun nests,a 7-meter concrete wall with sensors, remote-control machine guns and barbed wire multiple patrol lines with fences in between, anti-vehicle ditch,And 6 or 7km wide no Israeli zone where there are no settlements or housing, MBTs patrol the perimeter, and every piece of tech known to man is used to guard it , they literaly have vibration sensors embedded into the ground and an underground wall as well.
If the Israeli security services were not in on it , letting it happen for XYZ reason, then this is reminiscent of Iraqi army falling apart when 800 dudes with pickups arrived.
Of course, i can imagine wast technological and firepower overmatch combined with a Wall breeds complacency.
Where was this "peace rave" out on the 1.5 km kill zone.?
This is why I guessed tehran had to be involved for this sudden burst in capabilities. They do like to do this. Thats what the solimani assassination was about. Iran teaching how to create plasma IEDs. Both tehran and hezbollah congratulated hamas on the attacks success. But this sudden and this great of a increase? Light infantry capabilities come from organization training and experience. As you said complacency is possible with a fortification. Thats what would have had to happen. Israeli incompetance combined with a exponential gain in hamas operational capabilities. But they are far from incompetent. So... Odd. Any group of combatents enering the kill zone should have been immediately engaged. Its like the perimeter just went poof. The videos show lots of unarmed young men shouting alu akbar along with a grim looking armed man transporting hostages back in pickup trucks. golf carts. and motor scooters. Where did all this disorder spring from?
The takeaway. Good people in the USA need to prepare themselves. Stay healthy. Its coming. Up down or sideways who what or why Israel will respond to this.
Hamas "Captured" 14 Merkava 4 Tanks, 17 Armoured Personnel Carriers
"The loss of the Merkava 4 main battle tanks at the hands of amateur Palestinian fighters has been described by Israeli military analysts as highly embarrassing, especially after they had boasted that their indigenous tanks was the best in the world.
defencesecurityasia.com i don't believe somebody like me that isn't a party to this conflict can understand it unless i view it from both perspectives.
you might have already decided for yourself (and others) and would rather not see it. i understand that, but i cannot agree.
Sirhr, I think you have hit upon something significant. I am teaching through Isaiah at the moment - verse by verse - and it becomes increasingly clear to my class that there are people back in the day that died by the sword of the Babylonians that didn't even grasp that what was occurring to them and their children via Sennacherib was judgement. They died without knowing WHY they died because they were so involved in idol worship. This is relevant for what is going on now because I think you are correct - those wanting peace, patchouli and Birkenstocks do not understand that they have absolutely no say in anything - nobody on either side gives a shit about them or what they are wanting. The ability for violence and the execution of it trumps everything - everyone bows to it, and the pacifists are the first to fall. Everyone understands physical power and the ability to impose harm. It happens even in grade school or flower power idiots and eco-justice types that get their hands ripped off of a road they have superglued themselves to. Today we see who wants what more. This is the real talking point, although I think most are ignoring it and trying to make violence an intellectual pursuit. Killing is what is required to get people in line in the middle east and everywhere else. Like EVERYWHERE else. Even in the developed countries - it's coming. Raw power rules everything. I have seen it too many times to misunderstand it.
I can’t wait until our woke/gay/trans/feelings first/vaxxed military gets involved. Things will get sorted out then for sure! 
Any of you Benghazi vets feeling you lacked mothers love.
That's just because your pre-trib view is wrong. You are going through it with the rest of us believers.
I'm yanking your chain brother. We are all either going to go Home together or go through it together and then go Home. We will find out together. Yup.
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Peace for Palestine Rave accounted almost for a third of the Israeli casualties
Israel confirms that the bodies of 260 civilians were found at the site of the music festival near the Gaza border fence.
Before shit hit the fan
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Understood. IMHO, it is critical for the good guys to combat the MSM narrative with sound and vetted information. We should have no part in promulgating nonsense.
this will be a lot of incoherent rambling since i am confused about all the cause and affect
semitic peoples ave been in mid east millenia. some remained jews,some became muslim. long complex history that is very open to interpretation.
israel was rather forcefully created after ww2 mostly by euro/anglo influence. the brits didn't care about the mandate and were not well with suffering terrorist attacks. the US/UN was heavily influenced by powerful jewish influencers.
arabs immediately attacked and were beaten back by very brave,determined,competent group
israel has suffered viscous attacks at home and abroad by religious hate groupings
israel knocked out a coming attack in the 6 day war
israel succeded after a pearl harbor like attack 50yr ago
arab influence has kept a low level hot war going on against israel and the west for decades
israel is about the same as the islamic states-a theocratic dictatorship
palestine is like ukraine-a geographical area-never a country
black sept was a time when the jordanians,not the israelis smashed the PLO and drove them out of jordan and into what was essentially israel by then
israel,during the covid scamdemic,was the or one of the most abusive countries of it's own citizens
now under attack by hamas using tactics,weapons and intelligence that it is no way capable of on it's own,using stuff that it likely got thru ukraine and afganistan-from us in other words
WHAT THE FUCK! i am lost in all this. many would say i am lost about most stuff.
semitic peoples ave been in mid east millenia. some remained jews,some became muslim. long complex history that is very open to interpretation.
israel was rather forcefully created after ww2 mostly by euro/anglo influence. the brits didn't care about the mandate and were not well with suffering terrorist attacks. the US/UN was heavily influenced by powerful jewish influencers.
arabs immediately attacked and were beaten back by very brave,determined,competent group
israel has suffered viscous attacks at home and abroad by religious hate groupings
israel knocked out a coming attack in the 6 day war
israel succeded after a pearl harbor like attack 50yr ago
arab influence has kept a low level hot war going on against israel and the west for decades
israel is about the same as the islamic states-a theocratic dictatorship
palestine is like ukraine-a geographical area-never a country
black sept was a time when the jordanians,not the israelis smashed the PLO and drove them out of jordan and into what was essentially israel by then
israel,during the covid scamdemic,was the or one of the most abusive countries of it's own citizens
now under attack by hamas using tactics,weapons and intelligence that it is no way capable of on it's own,using stuff that it likely got thru ukraine and afganistan-from us in other words
WHAT THE FUCK! i am lost in all this. many would say i am lost about most stuff.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-conflict-live-updates-rcna119362#rcrd20213
Couple of comments;
1. "Israeli sensors/detection methods were compromised early on". So, a "compromised" sensor system DOESN'T mean that they're being imminently attacked ? JFC......
2. "The US is sending naval ships and airplanes to the area". Why, are we giving those away to Hamas, or are we going to wait for the Taliban to show up so we can give them the titles, pink slips and all the goodies ?
The SOB's in the media really have to do a better job on the bullshit. The average 6 year old can see right through it.
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