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Something kicking off in Israel

If a nuclear launch and or exchange is you’re preference then simply remove all support

Currently the US presence is the only deterrent from that out come. That does not m an it still will not take place but the US is a big hammer being held over the heads of others that would like to get involved.

With that said, paying Egypt pocket change to prevent a significant involvement is a pretty smart choice from a monetary and military standpoint. All around strategically there are worse ideas.
Why is it our concern if they nuke each other? It’s an honest question. Horrible, yes. But there is a difference between horrible and our responsibility. Just because we can get involved doesn’t mean we should.

Israel is using us as a money and resource machine for their ends. Have been for years. It’s an abusive relationship at best.

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U.S. needs that military budget. U.S. has different t demographics then Canada or Sweden. Cannot compare the two in that regard.

Social programs only take you so far. I've seen it. U.S. needs corporate wage laws that stay above inflation. I.E. average household ncome in 1997 was $72000.. should be $154000 now.

Wages need to SHOOT up!

Too bad China's embarrassing Covid leak added so much inflation internationally.

Should be strung up by their toes.

A century of embarrassment indeed.

Stop embarrassing yourself, every fucking century you idiots.
They are, heck you can make $21 per hour at McDonalds now.
 
Why is it our concern if they nuke each other?
Perhaps you should ponder the global ramifications of such a thing.

I’m quite certain it will cost you more than 300.00 to maintain our current life style not to mention even survive.

Kinda like saying “ why should I worry if my neighbor blows up his house. “ when your neighbor live 30 yards from you.

A bit short sighted.

And I don’t intend that to be mean or a slight.
 
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Perhaps you should ponder the global ramifications of such a thing.

I’m quite certain it will cost you more than 300.00 to maintain our current life style not to mention even survive.

Kinda like saying “ why should I worry if my neighbor blows up his house. “ when you neighbor live 30 yards from you.

A bit short sighted.

And I don’t intend that to be mean or a slight.
I understand you position and I am not attempting to be contradictory just for the sake of being so. I am asking that question to arouse careful thought.

Nobody in their right mind wants nuclear war. But we as a nation are broke. We are heading into rough economic waters due to poor leadership and poor policies. What nobody seems to be considering are the impacts to the US by being involved: terrorist attacks at home, pushing most of the Muslim world into BRICS, the destruction of dollar hegemony and a real loss of more military capability through munitions depletion which causes weakness and even more spending to replenish arms.

We need to wake up. We have inserted ourselves into conflicts on multiple fronts. What will we actually get out of any of it besides bankruptcy? Our friends aren’t our friends - anywhere. Everyone seems to only want what they can get out of us. I’m not anti-Israel, far from it. And I am definitely not in the Palestinian camp. But we need to understand who we decide to get in bed with, and I am very much against being the world’s welfare check.
 
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U.S. needs that military budget. U.S. has different t demographics then Canada or Sweden. Cannot compare the two in that regard.

Social programs only take you so far. I've seen it. U.S. needs corporate wage laws that stay above inflation. I.E. average household ncome in 1997 was $72000.. should be $154000 now.

Wages need to SHOOT up!

Too bad China's embarrassing Covid leak added so much inflation internationally.

Should be strung up by their toes.

A century of embarrassment indeed.

Stop embarrassing yourself, every fucking century you idiots.
I don't think you understand what inflation IS if you think raising wages will bring it under control. Our economy was almost stagnant under Obama, and then it took off under Trump till Covid hit, and then all of a sudden massive inflation. The money supply was being governed by "Modern Monetary Theory", which is basically throwing out all economics in human history and saying that deficits don't matter.

Raising wages now is like throwing gas on a fire. Demand hasn't slaked and the money keeps pumping. Something has got to give, and the government doesn't show any signs of slowing spending, so unless you want economic collapse, there is going to have to be a great deal of suffering, and that's going to all happen at the bottom end. Throw in millions of illegals, and you have a worker's catastrophe in the making. I think mid 2024 is going to be a reconning. Buy more ammo, and get ready to tighten your belt.
 
I understand you position and I am not attempting to be contradictory just for the sake of being so. I am asking that question to arouse careful thought.

Nobody in their right mind wants nuclear war. But we as a nation are broke. We are heading into rough economic waters due to poor leadership and poor policies. What nobody seems to be considering are the impacts to the US by being involved: terrorist attacks at home, pushing most of the Muslim world into BRICS, the destruction of dollar hegemony and a real loss of more military capability through munitions depletion which causes weakness and even more spending to replenish arms.

We need to wake up. We have inserted ourselves into conflicts on multiple fronts. What will we actually get out of any of it besides bankruptcy? Our friends aren’t our friends - anywhere. Everyone seems to only want what they can get out of us. I’m not anti-Israel, far from it. And I am definitely not in the Palestinian camp. But we need to understand who we decide to get in bed with, and I am very much against being the world’s welfare check.

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I guess my view is all that stuff you listed is going to happen whether we are involved in this or not.

This is planned and we are entering the end game at worse or another declining chapter at best.
 
I understand you position and I am not attempting to be contradictory just for the sake of being so. I am asking that question to arouse careful thought.

Nobody in their right mind wants nuclear war. But we as a nation are broke. We are heading into rough economic waters due to poor leadership and poor policies. What nobody seems to be considering are the impacts to the US by being involved: terrorist attacks at home, pushing most of the Muslim world into BRICS, the destruction of dollar hegemony and a real loss of more military capability through munitions depletion which causes weakness and even more spending to replenish arms.

We need to wake up. We have inserted ourselves into conflicts on multiple fronts. What will we actually get out of any of it besides bankruptcy? Our friends aren’t our friends - anywhere. Everyone seems to only want what they can get out of us. I’m not anti-Israel, far from it. And I am definitely not in the Palestinian camp. But we need to understand who we decide to get in bed with, and I am very much against being the world’s welfare check.

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What a bunch of total bullshit.

I think @Lowlight needs to reinstate the zero tolerance antisemitism policy. It's bad enough I have to hear it from all these leftist lunatic, terrorist loving fanatics, but clearly there is a bunch of it on the right, and under normal circumstances I would just tolerate it, but given the current circumstances I want to punch many racist, conspiracy theory, mental oatmeal motherfuckers in the face.
 
What a bunch of total bullshit.

I think @Lowlight needs to reinstate the zero tolerance antisemitism policy. It's bad enough I have to hear it from all these leftist lunatic, terrorist loving fanatics, but clearly there is a bunch of it on the right, and under normal circumstances I would just tolerate it, but given the current circumstances I want to punch many racist, conspiracy theory, mental oatmeal motherfuckers in the face.
Antisemitism? I think you go the wrong dude, big time. But that word gets thrown around like hashbrowns on a Saturday morning by people these days, almost to the point that is has lost meaning, just like everyone screaming racist all the time. If you can find where I said anything about pro-persecution of Jews I'm all ears. One can be against a government's actions and not be against the individual people, unless you cannot derive the difference, which I am not responsible for.
 
I guess my view is all that stuff you listed is going to happen whether we are involved in this or not.

This is planned and we are entering the end game at worse or another declining chapter at best.
I think this view is to some meaningful degree valid. It could very well already be in the cards.
 
Antisemitism? I think you go the wrong dude, big time. But that word gets thrown around like hashbrowns on a Saturday morning by people these days, almost to the point that is has lost meaning, just like everyone screaming racist all the time. If you can find where I said anything about pro-persecution of Jews I'm all ears. One can be against a government's actions and not be against the individual people, unless you cannot derive the difference, which I am not responsible for.
Trying to understand that accusation also..
So one can be "antisemitic" simply by virtue of saying we'd be better off not getting involved?
We have to focus on us first and foremost. And right now we're in the toilet economically, socially, etc..certainly we can all agree on that much?
 
U.S. needs that military budget. U.S. has different t demographics then Canada or Sweden. Cannot compare the two in that regard.

Social programs only take you so far. I've seen it. U.S. needs corporate wage laws that stay above inflation. I.E. average household ncome in 1997 was $72000.. should be $154000 now.

Wages need to SHOOT up!

Too bad China's embarrassing Covid leak added so much inflation internationally.

Should be strung up by their toes.

A century of embarrassment indeed.

Stop embarrassing yourself, every fucking century you idiots.
 

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Trying to understand that accusation also..
So one can be "antisemitic" simply by virtue of saying we'd be better off not getting involved?
We have to focus on us first and foremost. And right now we're in the toilet economically, socially, etc..certainly we can all agree on that much?
I giggled at the pro-Hamas statement woven in there from one while another went crying to daddy.

From 2 different people and in back to back posts.
 
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What a bunch of total bullshit.

I think @Lowlight needs to reinstate the zero tolerance antisemitism policy. It's bad enough I have to hear it from all these leftist lunatic, terrorist loving fanatics, but clearly there is a bunch of it on the right, and under normal circumstances I would just tolerate it, but given the current circumstances I want to punch many racist, conspiracy theory, mental oatmeal motherfuckers in the face.
let me sum up your cry baby bullshit……”if your not on my side of this argument I want you banned…….”
your obviously a liberal soy boy……
And you sound vaccinated …….
 
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Tunnels at work , lucky for IDF most of Hamas arms are DIY products



low grade DIY weapons

The second one looks like a hand grenade with half a lawn dart glued to one end of it and some sort of trigger on the other end for when it hits the ground.
 
Did the civilian casualties create the necessary requirements for countries to mandatory take them as persecuted individuals? Was that the basis of the selection of countries that take them?

Its outrageous. Could this possibly happen?
Unsure. But, there is no denying it's a humanitarian crisis. And it looks like Israel is willing to shell out 20B for Egypt to take them. I will admit it's a brilliant plan, it's a plan that fits perfectly with the global orders narrative.

What is evident to me is that unless there is a decisive victor in a regional conflict and the defeated is run off the land completely, there will always be the threat of violence. There are a lot of people who believe peace can only exist in homogenous cultures. I think that Israel is at that point where they believe the ends justify the means, any means necessary.

See... Sun Tzu, Miyamoto Musashi, Niccolo Machiavelli.
 
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I think we can see who is ignorant and who isn't. I have Jews in my family. To me this is personal. When Frank was on the site your bullshit did not fly either. Since he doesn't look much you guys have had free reign. I usually just let it pass, but what happened on 10-7 was beyond any war crimes I've ever seen or heard of. The Nazis may have had a much bigger scale, but even they weren't that evil and hate filled. It was horror movie shit, and you fucking support that, and I don't buy for a moment you're just politically for Hamas and against Israel, and your bigotry has nothing to do with it. I let tons of redneck bullshit pass, because our community is full of basically good people, but my niece was threatened on her campus, and now she's not going back after break.

To think there aren't consequences to all the hate and lies you fuckers peddle on the internet is a bridge too far for me. I would much rather teach you right from wrong in person. I would rather you were honest with the world about who you are and what you stand for, but I think thats a bridge too far, because celarly you've justified it in your own head and think you're a bunch of middle east experts.

I wonder which of us has been to Israel more, or done more JT ops with the IDF? I would bet you've never set foot in Israel, and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Look at all the people who agree with you, and then tell me which side is an intersectional leftist fuckstick. You may want to consider all the radical communists who you're siding with before spewing your bile.
 
. It was horror movie shit, and you fucking support that
Perhaps you should put links to who you think is doing this?

I can clearly see the person YOU attacked was not supporting the butchering of civilians as I am the one he was mainly having the discussion with.

Having an opposing opinion does not automatically make you a supporter of terrorists.
 
I think we can see who is ignorant and who isn't. I have Jews in my family. To me this is personal. When Frank was on the site your bullshit did not fly either. Since he doesn't look much you guys have had free reign. I usually just let it pass, but what happened on 10-7 was beyond any war crimes I've ever seen or heard of. The Nazis may have had a much bigger scale, but even they weren't that evil and hate filled. It was horror movie shit, and you fucking support that, and I don't buy for a moment you're just politically for Hamas and against Israel, and your bigotry has nothing to do with it. I let tons of redneck bullshit pass, because our community is full of basically good people, but my niece was threatened on her campus, and now she's not going back after break.

To think there aren't consequences to all the hate and lies you fuckers peddle on the internet is a bridge too far for me. I would much rather teach you right from wrong in person. I would rather you were honest with the world about who you are and what you stand for, but I think thats a bridge too far, because celarly you've justified it in your own head and think you're a bunch of middle east experts.

I wonder which of us has been to Israel more, or done more JT ops with the IDF? I would bet you've never set foot in Israel, and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Look at all the people who agree with you, and then tell me which side is an intersectional leftist fuckstick. You may want to consider all the radical communists who you're siding with before spewing your bile.
Oh, you should add quotes to this, I am really wondering who your refering too now. Grabbing popcorn!
 
There is a Jewish ethnicity, Jewish "religion", and then within that there are the orthodox Jews. Many of those of "ethnicity" category make up the globalist, the ones that screw everyone else.
My Russian and Ukrainian friends tell me that most of the Russian mafia are Jews. Been that way for centuries.
 
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They are 2.5% of our population. They value family and education...hence, they're fabulously successful in America as a group. Not rocket science.
There are 147million people in the last Russian census, and 82,644 identified as Jews. Since that's .05% of the Russian population every single Jew must be in the Russian Mafia...? Are there criminal Jews? Of course.

I'm not watching left wing media, because I don't want to hear about the Arabs, who think they're "Palestinians" (Roman Subjects), having a point or being oppressed. There's thousands of years of history to justify your point, but you don't have to, do you? Am I dug in? Hell yes.

To me there's no such thing as an "innocent" Gazan, just like my Grandfather was fighting Germans, not specifically Nazis. Yes, not all Germans weren't in the Nazi party, but the Nazis didn't rise to power without the vast majority of Germans supporting them, and when we brought that bitch down there weren't many fucktards worrying about killing the German civilians who chose to put the Nazis in power.

France, UK, and the Netherlands are shipping humanitarian aid to Gaza. What are the Arabs sending besides weapons? Why won't any Arab nation accept the Palistinian "refugees"? Do they know something we don't? It's easy to think you understand, and easier to say you hate the only tiny sliver of land where Jews thought they were safe, but really aren't antisemitic.

anti-semitic

adjective​

  1. Relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews.
It's a word with a definition in the dictionary. It is based off the word "semetic", but it does not have the same meaning. Who is the dumbass? It's not like you can't Google the definition and find you're wrong in two seconds. That's as stupid as firing someone for using the word "niggardly". You only think you're not a dumbass.


I just don't want to see it here. I'm confronted all over the internet with this shit. The Arabs did what they did, and they get what they get. They would be just as happy murdering your family and wouldn't think twice about it. I have Jews in my family, and they have been threatened and they are afraid. Am I too close to this? You're godam right I am. My niece is not going back to school, because she believes she'll be attacked. Shit like this brings out people's true colors. Not just their bullshit political opinions spewed from afar, but their true colors.
 
I’ll wait for the coming quotes and links.

I’m not discounting your feelings. I agree with most of what you have stated and made some valid points in your last post. I’m more concerned about the accusations and attack you just made.

If it was mistaken and made out of frustration just state so.

Edit: smartphones are not all that smart.
 
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I don't have any Jewish relatives. I've never been to Israel. But I was born and raised in Jersey, have a couple of Jewish friends, and my brother was at the Federal Building only blocks away from GZ when the muslim terrorists flew into the WTC towers. He was even staying at the Marriott (bldg 3?).

We couldn't reach him, and he couldn't reach us until about 3am. After experiencing that, I can proudly say I stand with Israel against the terrorists.

We conservatives and conserva-tarians need to quit the circular firing squads.
 
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They are 2.5% of our population. They value family and education...hence, they're fabulously successful in America as a group. Not rocket science.
There are 147million people in the last Russian census, and 82,644 identified as Jews. Since that's .05% of the Russian population every single Jew must be in the Russian Mafia...? Are there criminal Jews? Of course.

I'm not watching left wing media, because I don't want to hear about the Arabs, who think they're "Palestinians" (Roman Subjects), having a point or being oppressed. There's thousands of years of history to justify your point, but you don't have to, do you? Am I dug in? Hell yes.

To me there's no such thing as an "innocent" Gazan, just like my Grandfather was fighting Germans, not specifically Nazis. Yes, not all Germans weren't in the Nazi party, but the Nazis didn't rise to power without the vast majority of Germans supporting them, and when we brought that bitch down there weren't many fucktards worrying about killing the German civilians who chose to put the Nazis in power.

France, UK, and the Netherlands are shipping humanitarian aid to Gaza. What are the Arabs sending besides weapons? Why won't any Arab nation accept the Palistinian "refugees"? Do they know something we don't? It's easy to think you understand, and easier to say you hate the only tiny sliver of land where Jews thought they were safe, but really aren't antisemitic.

anti-semitic

adjective​

  1. Relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews.
It's a word with a definition in the dictionary. It is based off the word "semetic", but it does not have the same meaning. Who is the dumbass? It's not like you can't Google the definition and find you're wrong in two seconds. That's as stupid as firing someone for using the word "niggardly". You only think you're not a dumbass.


I just don't want to see it here. I'm confronted all over the internet with this shit. The Arabs did what they did, and they get what they get. They would be just as happy murdering your family and wouldn't think twice about it. I have Jews in my family, and they have been threatened and they are afraid. Am I too close to this? You're godam right I am. My niece is not going back to school, because she believes she'll be attacked. Shit like this brings out people's true colors. Not just their bullshit political opinions spewed from afar, but their true colors.
Jews aren’t semites. The whole Old Testament based identity is a lie.
 
Jews aren’t semites. The whole Old Testament based identity is a lie.
I understand what you wrote, but I am not following your line of thought. Can you explain further? I'm curious as to what you mean. No trap, I'm just not following.
 
My 17-yo daughter mentioned to me this morning that Israel was dropping white phosphorus bombs on palestinians. Usually when she drops something on me like that, it's because she is skeptical, and I think wants to hear what I have to say about it. I looked it up on Google and Results Hunter this morning and all I can find are the same articles (from mostly left-leaning outlets) accusing or alleging the use of white phosphorus bombs. Nothing with actual proof. I can see that white phosphorus is a component used in some artillery and since Hamas uses civilians as human shields, it may be inevitable that some civilians are impacted by this component. But to indiscriminately drop white phosphorus bombs with the intended purpose of maiming and killing "innocent" gazans looks to me like propaganda.

What say you?

It's pretty standard to use wp shells as a smoke round or as a marking round. See m110a2 155mm ammunition.

It's not usually fired to cause casualties but it 100% can. It's often used to mark positions or screen and or obscure visibility.
 
Please stop posting these lefty jews spouting off and then using it to besmirch the race as a whole.

As far as I am concerned, the Jews can glass the whole fucking Gaza strip and I will sleep happily.
I second this.
 
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I think we can see who is ignorant and who isn't. I have Jews in my family. To me this is personal. When Frank was on the site your bullshit did not fly either. Since he doesn't look much you guys have had free reign. I usually just let it pass, but what happened on 10-7 was beyond any war crimes I've ever seen or heard of. The Nazis may have had a much bigger scale, but even they weren't that evil and hate filled. It was horror movie shit, and you fucking support that, and I don't buy for a moment you're just politically for Hamas and against Israel, and your bigotry has nothing to do with it. I let tons of redneck bullshit pass, because our community is full of basically good people, but my niece was threatened on her campus, and now she's not going back after break.

To think there aren't consequences to all the hate and lies you fuckers peddle on the internet is a bridge too far for me. I would much rather teach you right from wrong in person. I would rather you were honest with the world about who you are and what you stand for, but I think that's a bridge too far, because clearly you've justified it in your own head and think you're a bunch of middle east experts.

I wonder which of us has been to Israel more, or done more JT ops with the IDF? I would bet you've never set foot in Israel, and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Look at all the people who agree with you, and then tell me which side is an intersectional leftist fuckstick. You may want to consider all the radical communists who you're siding with before spewing your bile.
Just a couple of observations.

1: Your opinion and feelings do not have more value or authority because you have Jewish ancestry. I realize the victim thing is your bread and butter but fuck you.

2: Hamas and the rest of the extremist groups need to be exterminated. Fuck them

3: Considering the technology and planning that went into the Iron Wall thingy , AND the capabilities of the Israeli intelligence, AND OURS I find it impossible that that this was anything but allowed to happen to run up the emotions leading to this Gaza situation.

4: You are complaining about college campuses allowing Pl SUPPORTERS to talk stupid. Yes, it's pathetic, but IT IS FREE SPEECH you do not have to like it bud. That's the point of free speech. You seem pretty totalitarian minded with your broad brush there.

5: The same media who parroted 9/11, Iraq2 ,AFGH, COVID 19 are now breathlessly supporting Israel openly killing civillians in Gaza.

6: Just to be clear here, it's evil to murder Israeli civillians but okay to kill the PL civillians?

7: Since this is being allowed to run amuck currently, it will get the muzzies united and cause Israel to fight the muzzie world all at once. Which is possible it will get the Persians involved, which will get US involved, then China and Russia and a bunch of other people resulting in a war that could destroy everyone.

8: WW1 &WW2 were started in a similar manner.

9: Just because someone asks questions about some of the shit happening right now doesn't make them anything but curious for the record.

10: If you are so indignant and mad, when is your flight to your homeland hero? I mean from your litany of shit above I expect you to be there stacking PL civilians right now.

11: Yeah that's what I thought.
 
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Please stop posting these lefty jews spouting off and then using it to besmirch the race as a whole.

As far as I am concerned, the Jews can glass the whole fucking Gaza strip and I will sleep happily.
thing is, you can't criticize them publicly for what they are actually doing without being called antisemitic.
mayorkas uses his jewish heritage to deflect any criticism of his border policies.
garland uses his jewish heritage to feign bewilderment that anyone one would accuse him of attacking any religion (like catholics).
it has to be good jewish folks that fix the problem with the bad ones.
 
Tunnels at work , lucky for IDF most of Hamas arms are DIY products



low grade DIY weapons

Who was that old clown arguing with me a couple pages back about sop and how we don't know their situation......

Israelies seem to be untrained as hell. Freaking retarded gathering half a platoon in one spot with what looks like 0 security.... Certainly nobody watching what has been happening in Ukraine the last year and a half.

Wtf would you not at a minimum be 5-15 meters apart if you are near the loa. Straight amateur hour in that vid
 
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