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Malum Prohibitum said:
Are they destroying the armor?

I see each time they shoot, there is a big fireball or explosion, and then I see nothing else. They go on to the next one. No dancing around in celebration around a disabled tank. No killing the surviving but injured Israelis climbing out. Just an orange fireball and then on to the next one.

So did the anti-tank weapon do anything, or is it just exploding outside the armor without disabling or destroying the vehicle or its occupants? I mean, for all I know, the tank in each video drove away. Anybody know?
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I imagine in most cases they don't, but sooner or later something comes through particularly in a couple videos where RPG goes into the rear door.

Let's not forget in the initial October 7th attack 10 Merkavas are acknowledged to have been lost by the IDF, many taking multiple RPGs before anything came through.
 
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Many journalists for the media are self employed. CNN, etc, may be their only customer, but they do not necessary work for CNN as an employee. The media wants stories, will pay for them almost regardless of who the writer and photographer are.
 
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Mr.BR said:
Lets flip it around, so a bunch of professional loudmouths and multiple MSM outfits knew it would be kicking out but Israeli intelligence and security services didn't. So if the story is true it implicates Israelis even more this was an inside job facilitated to happen, while it might have snowballed way beyond the initial scale it was allowed to happen.

If AP, CNN, the New York Times and Reuters knew then the fucking US & Israeli Govts knew!!
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Wef has a goal Ukraine isn't working out so they needed a different avenue
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The last time a drone of this type was shot down by Houthi fighters was June 6, 2019. The Biden administration removed the Houthis from the U.S. list of terrorist groups in 2021.

www.foxnews.com

Iran-backed Houthis shoot down US MQ-9 Reaper drone off coast of Yemen

Iran-backed Houthis militants shot down a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone conducting surveillance off the coast of Yemen on Wednesday, according to a senior defense official.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
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Hobo Hilton said:
The last time a drone of this type was shot down by Houthi fighters was June 6, 2019. The Biden administration removed the Houthis from the U.S. list of terrorist groups in 2021.

www.foxnews.com

Iran-backed Houthis shoot down US MQ-9 Reaper drone off coast of Yemen

Iran-backed Houthis militants shot down a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone conducting surveillance off the coast of Yemen on Wednesday, according to a senior defense official.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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I should think It will get some attention. It seems the goal of the US was met already. Put enough assets in the area to lure an attack.
 
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Malum Prohibitum said:
Are they destroying the armor?

I see each time they shoot, there is a big fireball or explosion, and then I see nothing else. They go on to the next one. No dancing around in celebration around a disabled tank. No killing the surviving but injured Israelis climbing out. Just an orange fireball and then on to the next one.

So did the anti-tank weapon do anything, or is it just exploding outside the armor without disabling or destroying the vehicle or its occupants? I mean, for all I know, the tank in each video drove away. Anybody know?
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From memory the Merkava is the heaviest MBT made, this extra girth is all the armor I am sure. No doubt the RPG's are jacking up the armor, to what degree is the question. With the Ukraine conflict we see countless videos of secondary and sometimes tertiary cook offs and explosions, blown off turrets etc.. I am waiting to see that yet with the Gaza coverage.

Whatever weakness that has eroded into the IDF over the years of inaction is going to be quickly compensated for, the Israelis are incredibly smart and capable when motivated. One would think a 9/11 level attack would be very galvanizing on a nation.
 
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Mr.BR said:
First Ukraine was saving Europe now Israel is saving Europe ( while actually suggesting we take all the Palestinians including Hamas) , seriously come on who is buying this kind of shit ->
science is real = anyone asking for money is really just trying to save you

News flash most of the financial aid is already given as credit


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Re: the cartoon with the giant boulder called Islam about to roll through Europe, it’s complete propaganda of course, but frankly a lot of truth there.

I’ve said it before, and will say it again, I’m no fan of Israeli politics..period. And have very deep-seated concerns about certain elements of the international Jewish community writ large, but holy fuck y’all.

What’s the alternative between the Israelis or Hamas, Al Queda, Hezbollah, the Taliban, etc.? I too think we need to stay the fuck out of it..let them sort it out.

But I know which of those two contenders I’d rather see come out on top.
 
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91Eunozs said:
Re: the cartoon with the giant boulder called Islam about to roll through Europe, it’s complete propaganda of course, but frankly a lot of truth there.

I’ve said it before, and will say it again, I’m no fan of Israeli politics..period. And have very deep-seated concerns about certain elements of the international Jewish community writ large, but holy fuck y’all.

What’s the alternative between the Israelis or Hamas, Al Queda, Hezbollah, the Taliban, etc.? I too think we need to stay the fuck out of it..let them sort it out.

But I know which of those two contenders I’d rather see come out on top.
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That cartoon originally starts with the giant placing the boulder on top of slope in first place.That would actually be much more accurate.

The unfortunate truth is that with every new war in ME ,a boulder of Islamism is placed on a slope and kicked into Europes direction as Europe gets a shit load of new Islamic refugees. Like it or not Bibi Netanyahu and AIPAC pumping up the US neocons have started 7 or so wars in ME since 9/11 that added a couple of million Islamic refugees into Europe, US was not in the driver's seat either in Irak or Syria , Israel was and continues to be the reason why Syria and Iraq still have US troops.

It we truly wanted to end these boulders running, Israel needs to lose and lose badly,Bibi's winning plan at the moment in Gaza is for Europe,Canada and US to take 2 million Gazan refugees that Egypt will not allow on their turf. Hamas has always been Israel's intelligence services pet project and they have to own it.

Because that always worked for them,off loading their mess to others
www.reuters.com

Netanyahu says Canada, Italy and Germany to take in some of Israel's African migrants

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that Canada, Italy and Germany will take in some of Israel's African migrants under an agreement Israel reached with the U.N. refugee agency.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Folks ''trying to save us'' ,please stop, we do not need your saving.
It was not the face diaper folks, Ukrainians or Israelis so far every one of these touted 'saviors' made things much worse.

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Mr.BR said:
That cartoon originally starts with the giant placing the boulder on top of slope in first place.That would actually be much more accurate.

The unfortunate truth is that with every new war in ME ,a boulder of Islamism is placed on a slope and kicked into Europes direction as Europe gets a shit load of new Islamic refugees. Like it or not Bibi Netanyahu and AIPAC pumping up the US neocons have started 7 or so wars in ME since 9/11 that added a couple of million Islamic refugees into Europe, US was not in the driver's seat either in Irak or Syria , Israel was and continues to be the reason why Syria and Iraq still have US troops.

It we truly wanted to end these boulders running, Israel needs to lose and lose badly,Bibi's winning plan at the moment in Gaza is for Europe,Canada and US to take 2 million Gazan refugees that Egypt will not allow on their turf. Hamas has always been Israel's intelligence services pet project and they have to own it.

Because that always worked for them,off loading their mess to others
www.reuters.com

Netanyahu says Canada, Italy and Germany to take in some of Israel's African migrants

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that Canada, Italy and Germany will take in some of Israel's African migrants under an agreement Israel reached with the U.N. refugee agency.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Folks ''trying to save us'' ,please stop, we do not need your saving.
It was not the face diaper folks, Ukrainians or Israelis so far every one of these touted 'saviors' made things much worse.

F-VPHH8XwAANPA8
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If we break down what Israel is saying into plain English we see what is occurring: “The Palestinians are a threat to us, so we are going to clear out Gaza and hopefully the West Bank. We don’t want them here. Those Palestinians left alive are dangerous, unpredictable and largely uneducated Muslims. We are going to get rid of the threat and gain land by sending the threat to our allies to live, breed and cause problems. It’s not our problem then, it’s theirs now.”

If you think about it, since there would be Hamas sympathizers in this displaced group, Israel would be exporting terrorism just like Iran. It’s a dick move if you think about it in that light, but those governments that take them in are phenomenally stupid and equally responsible.

Things are starting trickle out about this conflict that let me know that if there was a white hat involved in this dust-up it was soiled long ago. I’m not 18 and no longer so gullible as to believe that either side is innocent, not just now but from the jump of this event.
 
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UKDslayer said:
We just did air strikes on Iranian-backed proxies in Syria.
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They blew up an empty warehouse. The funny part about it is US HUMINT in Syria, Iraq is so decayed ,best they can do is bomb some random shit, Iranian affiliates might or might not use. US bases in Iraq and Syria will get attacked by local groups with Iran or without but as game of whack-a-mole is not on the books it all always laid out as Iran's fault.


U.S. fighter jets conducted “a self-defense strike” at a weapons storage facility in Syria that was being used by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Wednesday.
The strike in eastern Syria was carried out at President Joe Biden’s direction, Austin said in a statement.
“This precision self-defense strike is a response to a series of attacks against U.S. personnel in Iraq and Syria by IRGC-Quds Force affiliates,” Austin said.

Remember same dumb fucks that trained 4-5 fighters for 500mio $ are running the things in Syria and Iraq .
And the dumbest of them all got a job first at Raytheon then as SecDef because he is Black , full diversity score kinda like Kamala , we just don't know if he had to suck as many dicks as Kamala
 
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ubettcha said:
Here is an article confirming who these reporters worked for.
www.thegatewaypundit.com

NY Times, CNN, Reuters and AP Had Contract Reporters Embedded with Hamas Terrorists Taking Photos During Their Mass Slaughter of 1,400 Jews | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

The latest ghoulish development following the slaughter of 1,400 Jews in the Oct.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
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So if a journalist propagandist gets advance notice of a gangland hit and has an invitation to video it, shouldn't they be charged as an accomplished?
 
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Longshot231 said:
So if a journalist propagandist gets advance notice of a gangland hit and has an invitation to video it, shouldn't they be charged as an accomplished?
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I feel not only the employees but also the employers should lose all licenses to operate said business. Along with exposure to civil liability after the criminal liabilities are prosecuted.
 
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ubettcha said:
I feel not only the employees but also the employers should lose all licenses to operate said business. Along with exposure to civil liability after the criminal liabilities are prosecuted.
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Exactly! Not only that, they should be charged with war crimes; namely aiding and abetting in the murder of civilians.
 
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Mr.BR said:
They blew up an empty warehouse.
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That's very interesting. Given how Hannity (I know...) went off on how weak Pedopeter was for letting (essentially Iran) attack all our guys, causing all that TBI, and also destroy that 30M surveillance drone. So, you pretend to do something when you really aren't doing that much, although you probably want to...
 
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lariat said:
If we break down what Israel is saying into plain English we see what is occurring: “The Palestinians are a threat to us, so we are going to clear out Gaza and hopefully the West Bank. We don’t want them here. Those Palestinians left alive are dangerous, unpredictable and largely uneducated Muslims. We are going to get rid of the threat and gain land by sending the threat to our allies to live, breed and cause problems. It’s not our problem them, it’s theirs now.”

If you think about it, since there would be Hamas sympathizers in this displaced group, Israel would be exporting terrorism just like Iran. It’s a dick move if you think about it in that light, but those governments that take them in are phenomenally stupid and equally responsible.

Things are starting trickle out about this conflict that let me know that if there was a white hat involved in this dust-up it was soiled long ago. I’m not 18 and no longer so gullible as to believe that either side is innocent, not just now but from the jump of this event.
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The US will take them. Go check out your local family dollar. They already here, been here legal or illegal. I’m sure all will be fine. The great potato is driving.
 
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Malum Prohibitum said:
Humanitarian aid. You mean resupply Hamas fighters? Why would Israel agree to conduct its siege like this?
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Given Northern Gaza is cut off , nothing is getting to Hamas. But they see that they are losing the PR war if the second-best army in Gaza aka IDF fails to complete the North Gaza takeover in a week or so any victory will be a phyric one, the Epstined politicians and MSM can only sell the BS for so long.

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Garvey said:
Short version of the story. I had a guy inside my fence, in my front yard, and in the dark at 0500 one morning. He had to hop over the 4' tall pipe fence to be there. I addressed him with sights on his back, and light shining from behind me to him. He did an about face and never stepped forward. He was about 7 yards. He followed my commands and got on his face. Sheriff deputies came. He got cuffed and stuffed.

I called an old Police officer friend of mine. I told him my heart rate never increased. I did not get an adrenaline dump. During and after the whole thing, I was just level. What's up with that? He asked "how long you been going on 9-1-1 calls?" Twenty years. He said your brain just went into business mode. Same as a structure fire, same as an extrication, same as a cardiac arrest. You treated an incident in your yard like any other one.

He said in Law Enforcement it is termed "stress inoculation". Go through enough what would be high stress events, and you just learn how to mentally and emotionally manage them.
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I agree, it is just another day. You also tend to see things other folk don't see.

You also get real black humor.

15 yr old blows his head clean off with an SKS in his bedroom......one guy said, shame looks like new carpet, they will never get the stain out. "Someone" else said, never mind that, look at the ceiling fan, it was one of the old ones with 4 lights, you can only get the three light ones now.
 
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Enemy at the gates style,''when one with the rifle gets killed the one without picks up the rifle and shoots'' Jenin west bank .

 
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Well it seems IDF might have done in lots of own civilians on October 7th. This was implied early on with all the blown-up cars and homes but now it seems Israeli media is leveling some accusations in that direction . Honestly it would be supprising if considerable numbers are not down to friendly fire.
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Air Force pilots guided via WhatsApp after Hamas deceptions during murderous attack

First helicopters arrive approximately an hour after the onset of the terror attack, pilots fire at targets both along the border and within besieged communities, often guided by mobile calls from forces on the ground
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10 hours of hellish fighting between IDF and Hamas in the center of Gaza: Merkava destroyed, dozens dead and wounded - Preparations to storm Shifa hospital

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10ωρες κολασμένες μάχες IDF και Χαμάς στο κέντρο της Γάζας: Κατεστραμμέν

Τα στρατεύματα της Ταξιαρχίας Πεζικού Nahal του IDF ανακοίνωσαν πως κατέλαβαν μετά από 10ώρες μάχες το προπύργιο της Χαμάς, γνωστό
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mcameron said:
you run nods during the day often?


do you people have ANY critical thinking skills.....or do you just blindly believe anything posted to twitter???
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It is interesting, however, that it is making the rounds that there was an official admition by the IDF of a case of mistaken identity.. I'm searching for the official IDF statement to see where the truth is. This is all I have found so far.

The Israeli army shot several dozen Israeli citizens from a helicopter, confusing them with militants


"The Israeli army command has officially recognized the tragic incident that occurred on October 7, when civilians were shot as a result of an erroneous action by the crew of a military helicopter. According to preliminary data, Israeli citizens, trying to avoid the Arab attack, were mistaken for attackers and attacked from the air."
 
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mcameron said:
do we have a source that doesnt come from a random russian blog?


presumably if there was an "officail IDF admission".....there would be some legit source for that.....
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Bro, I said I'm looking. Give me a sec to get my Google-Fu up and running.

Here's one with quotes. I seriously doubt you are going to find a lot of info from the major search engines. I have had to cut over to other engines just to find bits of the story. None of them will be unbiased from either side.

thegrayzone.com

October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles - The Grayzone

Israel's military received orders to shell Israeli homes and even their own bases as they were overwhelmed by Hamas militants on October 7. How many Israeli citizens said to have been "burned alive" were actually killed by friendly fire? Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the...
thegrayzone.com thegrayzone.com

"In an interview with Israel’s Mako news outlet, one Apache pilot reflected on the tortuous dilemma of whether to shoot at people and cars returning to Gaza. He knew that many of those vehicles may have contained Israeli captives. But he chose to open fire anyway. “I choose targets like that,” the pilot reflected, “where I tell myself that the chance that I am shooting here on hostages as well is low.” However, he admitted that his judgment “was not 100%.”

“I understand that we have to shoot here and quickly,” the commander of the Apache unit, Lt. Col. E., told Mako in a separate report. “Shooting at people in our territory – this is something I never thought I would do.”

Lt. Col. A., a reserve pilot in the same unit, described a fog of confusion: “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at, because there are so many of them.”

A report on the Apache squadrons by the Israeli outlet Yedioth Aharanoth noted that “the pilots realized that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”
 
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October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles

Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the October 7 Hamas surprise attack on southern Israel adds to growing evidence that the Israeli...
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"Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the October 7 Hamas surprise attack on southern Israel adds to growing evidence that the Israeli military killed its own citizens as they fought to neutralize Palestinian gunmen.

Tuval Escapa, a member of the security team for Kibbutz Be’eri, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army. He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, “the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.”

A separate report published in Haaretz noted that the Israeli military was “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base was filled with Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers at the time.

These reports indicate that orders came down from the military’s high command to attack homes and other areas inside Israel, even at the cost of many Israeli lives."
 
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That's pretty much all I can find that isn't so ridiculous in its propaganda that it is functionally worthless for factual information. Some of that shit I cant even stomach reading it is so bad.
 
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