Zelensky will end up living in exile if he survives that long. I do believe his life expectancy is going to be short no matter what happens with the war.
Ukraine war Bullshit.
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FK that s**t. Our troops need to stay home till actually needed to defend OUR country.
I'll pay for Fauci's airplane ticket.
as far as mercs go, there's an old saying Russians like to repeat...
"Go tell all in foreign lands that Russia lives! Those who come to us in peace will be welcome as a guest. But those who come to us sword in hand will die by the sword! On that Russia stands and forever will we stand!"
could be fake news, but funny if true.
i don't think we should kowtow to that sort of demand...and i don't think you can be pardoned for crimes against humanity. i hope not.
you have to wonder if this guy is stupid,delusional or panicking besides being deeply corrupt. he is not getting US troops,doubt NATO. hopefully getting no more money or weapons. this is a main reason why i know that Russia winning big. this obvious demanding of not happening things wouldn't be pushed if Ukraine had a chance to win or tie.
wish Putin would just send Spetsnaz and be done with this pus bag.
i think he also said he needs 200k from european allies to "win".
probably thinks he'll get a better deal from putin if he has at least some bargaining power.
i assume that is why trump isn't threatening to cut off aid...because he is trying to make a deal.
i'm guessing he will tell zelensky (privately) that we are done and he has to accept a compromise deal.
then he will tell putin he is going to back ukraine if he doesn't offer something reasonable.
as far as putin, i think he still wants the same thing as in the beginning. no new nato on his borders, limited arms in ukraine.
in the end, i still suspect there will be some profit sharing for the oil and gas in the donbas, public or not.
That sounds like whats being tossed around. Especially with Zelensky reaching out in that recent Davos speech.
But i fear its not enough, and this drags on.
Honestly, I’m very surprised Z, along with others, haven’t already been taken out.
In his interviews and speeches he has an english "coach" on the sidelines correcting him and feeding him his lines. I think it was skynews that sat down with him for like an hour and you could actually hear the coach correcting him in the back ground.
he's also a new english speaker so that is part of it too, which makes him sound like more of a bumbling idiot.
Zelensky knows that he is fucked and the spigot has been shut off. Hope he gets Clintoned before he can enjoy all the money he has stolen.
Maybe Trump should launch an investigation into all the members of Congress and Senate that traveled to Ukraine, as well as auditing same , as well as their families and corporations. Send Pho-Chee to Ukraine, or Russia. Either is fine with me.
Maybe Trump should launch an investigation into all the members of Congress and Senate that traveled to Ukraine, as well as auditing same , as well as their families and corporations. Send Pho-Chee to Ukraine, or Russia. Either is fine with me.
A permanent garrison of 200K NATO troops is the cost of surrender.
To "win" we just need to hit all the Rooskie targets in Ukraine- and a few choice ones inside Mother Russia- at exactly the same time.
Putin isn't going to allow NATO troops. The only concession he'll allow is letting them keep Kiev.
trump could make it harder for russia to finance the war if he unleashes more lng into the eu market. i don't knw how long that would take since a lot of projects have been shut down for 4 years.
maybe united nations peacekeepers.
i'm sure the UN has been dying to setup sex trafficking operations in ukraine, like they did in serbia/bosnia.
Putin doesn't get to allow or disallow anything.
If he doesn't step correctly here, he will fragment his country into little oligarch-controlled fiefdoms and die bloody like Gaddafi did ( <--- His #1 greatest fear)
Russia is a weak nation.
^ THIS is something that seriously should (and will) be pursued. What "Economic Warfare" tools can we bring to bear to choke and starve people who don't behave properly?
The balkanization of a nuclear state should not be something anyone cheers on.
trump has already threatened further sanctions, and requiring partner nations to enforce them (we know they won't).
This: "Or the art of getting rich from war." The Bidens got out of control rich in the Ukraine. And Hunter led the charge. This always catches up with people. All the Senators and House reps that went to the Ukraine were compromised, as in blackmailed.
Is Russia still a nuclear state?
I would be afraid to even try to touch the old-Soviet-button if I was Putin... accidents can happen.
Not only sanctions, but what else can be done so that we don't have to rubble the Moscow suburbs, but we can just make life extremely bad for everyone that lives there.
They already know that Putin killed over a half-a-million of their countrymen with absolutely nothing to show for it but some pounded mud in Ukraine.
Is Russia still a nuclear state?
I would be afraid to even try to touch the old-Soviet-button if I was Putin... accidents can happen.
Would be incredibly stupid to try and find out.
Putin is dumb as dirt though... and some of them are located (relatively) close to Rooskie population centers... I hope he doesn't ever try!
These are not the musings of a healthy mind.
eastern and southern ukraine have some of the largest oil and gas deposits in the region.Is Russia still a nuclear state?
I would be afraid to even try to touch the old-Soviet-button if I was Putin... accidents can happen.
Not only sanctions, but what else can be done so that we don't have to rubble the Moscow suburbs, but we can just make life extremely bad for everyone that lives there.
They already know that Putin killed over a half-a-million of their countrymen with absolutely nothing to show for it but some pounded mud in Ukraine.
i believe the cia overthrew the prior regime so that western oil companies could exploit those resources.
some reporting say oil companies like exxonmobile had already invested over $10billion before the war started.
lots of the video/photo evidence was already shared in the thread that got deleted.
i believe the program had the side benefit of denting or destroying the russian economy.
...which is why it is foolish to have thought putin would allow that to happen.
Easy, its the same thing every recent war was fought for. Oil/Gas, and the control of Oil/Gas.
I'm just a guy who is committed to BIG NUMBERS, ya' dig?
In reality, it was the Ukranian people who overthrew the prior regime, because the people sent him the EU–Ukraine Association Agreement to promote greater freedom and democracy, and increased prosperity.
Instead, he rejected the will of the people and caved to Kremlin pressure by not signing the deal, and taking steps to place Ukraine in a subordinate position to Russia, and place it back under their boot heel.
The people swapped him RIGHT OUT, and he fled to Russia where Putin gifted him one of his palaces in the town of Bakovka.
If you're talking about Yanukovych, he was overthrown in a violent coup led by western backed ultra-nationalistic neo-Nazis:
The Far Right in Ukraine During the “Euromaidan” and the War in Donbas
Zelensky. we need to publicly execute that little troll fuck
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