New Berger 375 bullet 410 hybrid

[Rocketmandb]

I ordered two boxes a couple months ago but their inventory was incorrect and they are OOS. I emailed Berger two weeks ago and they stated they aren’t on the production schedule yet

So, I'm a big Berger fan, but...

Why the hell announce them A YEAR AGO if they aren't putting them on the production schedule?

 

[ReturnFire]

I guess on the schedule but no dates which is confusing

 

[Rocketmandb]

I guess on the schedule but no dates which is confusing

I can understand why they don't give dates - dates tend to move and when they do, if you've published them, customers get pissed. I just don't get why they announced in early 2024 if their production schedule had them coming in 2025.

 

[secondofangle2]

Maybe they’re partnering with Ingenuity

 

[Rocketmandb]

Maybe they’re partnering with Ingenuity

Maybe they _are_ Ingenuity

 

[vh20]

Maybe they’re partnering with Ingenuity

Beat me to it.

 

[RickyRacer87]

I was able to find some in stock so I’ll be trying them out at the end of the month

So what was the consensus on the .375 Berger 410’s

 

[ReturnFire]

So what was the consensus on the .375 Berger 410’s

I was duped by an inaccurate “in stock” notification. They were not available and still haven’t been.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

They are nearly impossible to keep up with demand.

 

[Asgard1]

They are nearly impossible to keep up with demand.

So if the demand is so high then get the needed equipment and ramp up production . Personaly i don't think the demand is there . i think it's a good idea but I have yet to see any one using them in elr . So who is purchasing them ? When I spoke to Brian at shot show in 2024 he said lots of push back by the industry on whether or not it was a good idea and was a good marketable product. I personally think it's a great idea. More splash and higher sectional density in relation bullet length.

 

[Asgard1]

I think its a great move anything that takes part of Hornadys market share is a good idea.

 

[NightStash]

They are nearly impossible to keep up with demand.

The only person I've seen shooting them at any match the entire year was a capstone sponsored shooter. He didn't even shoot them the entire year

 

[Asgard1]

The only person I've seen shooting them at any match the entire year was a capstone sponsored shooter. He didn't even shoot them the entire year

Perhaps there back on the drawing board. Cause there not that great . Good enough for sponsord shooters but not good enough for AB team shooters? Lol

 

[secondofangle2]

Oh but what about BC variation?!?!

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Oh but what about BC variation?!?!

0.5% average out to 1800 yards:

 

[secondofangle2]

I know. I was poking fun at that refrain.

Thanks for reinforcing the refrain!

 

[RickyRacer87]

So if they are actually out there and being used why is nobody talking about pro or con? If they have sold out the entire run you would think someone would be talking…

 

[secondofangle2]

Much. Ado. About. Nothing.

 

[LakuNoc]

Any word on these? Back in stock 2030?

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

They are on the production schedule, but I cannot share more than that.

 

[TripleBull]

Berger Unicorn Dust schedule.

 

[LakuNoc]

They are on schedule for next year

 

[secondofangle2]

for reals?

 

[LakuNoc]

They are saying this year but i don’t see it happening. Still waiting on Jackets and core fir bullets.

 

[SEPAboltrifle]

MHSA has four (4) 50-count boxes available right now...

 

[secondofangle2]

Gone

 

[LakuNoc]

They sold out so fast! Same thing happened at Creedmore sports.

 

[A5scott]

Is an 8 twist too fast for these?

Scott

 

[SEPAboltrifle]

1:8 recommended by Tubb for 37XC. That way you can run jacketed bullets or solids.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Is an 8 twist too fast for these?

Scott

No, you can run them in a 1 in 7 easily.

 

[A5scott]

No, you can run them in a 1 in 7 easily.

Thank you,
Scott

 

[LakuNoc]

Any data on Berger 410 in 375 ct. please post

 

[Mile High Shooting]

Gone

There are 3 of the 50 count boxes in the retail store front. Part # 37401 - 375 cal 410 grain Hybird Target 50 ct>

But to order them people will have to call in. The website does not see what is in store front.

Call 303-255-9999 and ask for Cary or John or Brent.

Kent

 

[Mile High Shooting]

OK more info.

I went and put hands on the 410 grains. There are in fact 3 boxes of #37401 in store front.

The are also several boxes of 407 grain #37407 and 379 grain #37379 but these are also in the warehouse and should be on the website.

I have the 250 count boxes of the 410 grain on order but they are not in yet.

Kent

 

[Pete Cefalu]

Has anyone had a chance to try these yet ? Box says min. twist is 11.5
Kinda took me by surprise, as both my cheytacs are 1:8
I guess I'll try to work up a load between 2800-2850 to keep the RPM's down around 255K

 

[Taylorbok]

Has anyone had a chance to try these yet ? Box says min. twist is 11.5
Kinda took me by surprise, as both my cheytacs are 1:8
I guess I'll try to work up a load between 2800-2850 to keep the RPM's down around 255K

If you really wanna try them I’d just wait and get a slower barrel next time. I shoot a smaller 375 and run around 2850 anyways so I might try them but I’ll prob still favour A-tips or Lazers

 

[Pete Cefalu]

If you really wanna try them I’d just wait and get a slower barrel next time. I shoot a smaller 375 and run around 2850 anyways so I might try them but I’ll prob still favour A-tips or Lazers

Yeah. I scored 4 boxes. One of my 375’s have them touching at 4.6 and change. Gonna see what powder fills the case to that COAL as the top of boat is rite at the neck/shoulder junction. I’ll do pressure test first with RL50 and H50.

 

[Geno C.]

Has anyone had a chance to try these yet ? Box says min. twist is 11.5
Kinda took me by surprise, as both my cheytacs are 1:8
I guess I'll try to work up a load between 2800-2850 to keep the RPM's down around 255K

Why would that be a surprise?

 

[Pete Cefalu]

Why would that be a surprise?

Just seemed a bit high to my inexperienced brain. I thought I read somewhere that a competitor hit the the 2 mile plate(with accolades?) recently using them. Do you feel I'm wasting my time with a 1:8 34" ? i respect your opinions and advice.

 

[Geno C.]

I don’t think it should be a waste at all. I want to say that I saw that they had tested them in a 7 twist with success. Myself and others have ran 390atips through an 8 and they’ve held together if you run them conservatively. And we all know the atip line might be the most likely to blow up out of anything lol

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

They work just fine in our 7 twist test rifles.

 

[Pete Cefalu]

I don’t think it should be a waste at all. I want to say that I saw that they had tested them in a 7 twist with success. Myself and others have ran 390atips through an 8 and they’ve held together if you run them conservatively. And we all know the atip line might be the most likely to blow up out of anything lol

Awesome. I have heard the chatter about A-Tips and mine are holding together around 2950. I also think you are the one that warned me to pay special attention to the added heat factor down here in So Florida. On paper I have a starting load of 132.0 H50 and 135 RL-50 for the 410’s.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Awesome. I have heard the chatter about A-Tips and mine are holding together around 2950. I also think you are the one that warned me to pay special attention to the added heat factor down here in So Florida. On paper I have a starting load of 132.0 H50 and 135 RL-50 for the 410’s.

Two completely different jacket manufacturers. You can't really compare how one manufactures jackets hold up vs another's. This has nothing really to do with the bullets/calibers per say.