Ukraine war Bullshit.

[GreenGO Juan]

Russia is pushing up the bank of the marshland that was a reservoir of the Dniper, before the damn/powerplant was destroyed.

“Between 2018 and 2024, U.S. Congress banned the organization from receiving funding, arms, training, and other forms of support due to its documented neo-Nazi affiliations and concerns regarding human rights violations.”

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Well, I suppose it shouldn’t really be such a big deal - given our track record since forever ago.

Been thinking on this one a while, I am starting to question if we flipped him and used him as an asset, but for him to infiltrate it need to look/seem like he was really an enemy. IDK just a thought.

 

[kthomas]

“Between 2018 and 2024, U.S. Congress banned the organization from receiving funding, arms, training, and other forms of support due to its documented neo-Nazi affiliations and concerns regarding human rights violations.”

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Well, I suppose it shouldn’t really be such a big deal - given our track record since forever ago.

To me this is one of the most fascinating aspects of this conflict.

Prior to the Ukraine war it was very well established that Ukraine had a systemic issue with ultra-nationalism inside and outside of the AFU, this was well reported on in western media. Just search "Ukraine ultra-nationalism" in Google with your search set for entries prior to 2022 - literally hundreds of articles will come up. It was such a problem that Congress banned armed shipments to Azov, even though we arm despotic regimes and literal terrorists elsewhere in the world.

Since the invasion began, you mostly get articles now white-washing the banderaites and ultra-nationalists of Ukraine. The media, essentially acting as stenographers for the government, know that admitting what was once common knowledge would be counter effective to the pro war propaganda, and thus the white washing began.

It's really fascinating to watch it all go down, and to see people eat up the blatantly obvious propaganda.

 

[Snuby642]

If you're on TV with a coat and tie or have a decent rack most of America will believe anything you say, literally anything.

When someone doubts it they are labeled as trouble makers and the sheep nod their heads in unison.

One sheep spews a naritive and it becomes reality in the rests simple minds because it is more convenient than actual thought.

It's the Democrat default mindset.

 

[Terry Cross]

If you're on TV with a coat and tie or have a decent rack most of America will believe anything you say, literally anything.

When someone doubts it they are labeled as trouble makers and the sheep nod their heads in unison.

One sheep spews a naritive and it becomes reality in the rests simple minds because it is more convenient than actual thought.

It's the Democrat default mindset.

You had me at "decent rack".

 

[Edsel]

To me this is one of the most fascinating aspects of this conflict.

Prior to the Ukraine war it was very well established that Ukraine had a systemic issue with ultra-nationalism inside and outside of the AFU, this was well reported on in western media. Just search "Ukraine ultra-nationalism" in Google with your search set for entries prior to 2022 - literally hundreds of articles will come up. It was such a problem that Congress banned armed shipments to Azov, even though we arm despotic regimes and literal terrorists elsewhere in the world.

Since the invasion began, you mostly get articles now white-washing the banderaites and ultra-nationalists of Ukraine. The media, essentially acting as stenographers for the government, know that admitting what was once common knowledge would be counter effective to the pro war propaganda, and thus the white washing began.

It's really fascinating to watch it all go down, and to see people eat up the blatantly obvious propaganda.

We have a rich history of whitewashing our lies, while at the same time presuming to posture from a moral high ground in whatever we do.

All in the name of furthering our “interests,” exercises in failure and moral bankruptcy they may be.

It is a very consistent theme in practice all over the world.

South America. Africa. The Middle East. Europe. And now, most importantly - Asia (China).

 

[kthomas]

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We have a rich history of whitewashing our lies, while at the same time presuming to posture from a moral high ground in whatever we do.

All in the name of furthering our “interests,” exercises in failure and moral bankruptcy they may be.

It's incredible how such narratives can do a 180 shift on a dime, and people just go along with it...

 

[lariat]

https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/08/27/russians-advance-into-new-ukrainian-region-as-peace-talks-stall/

 

[Threadcutter308]

Looks like Rheinmetall is "all in"................

Germany: Rheinmetall opens new artillery ammunition factory – DW – 08/27/2025

Germany's largest arms manufacturer has inaugurated its latest munitions factory, to focus on the 155 mm artillery shells critical to supplying Ukraine. Rheinmetall's stock soared amid Europe's military spending spree.

www.dw.com

Can't imagine they are on the side of the room that wants the war to stop.

 

[kthomas]

Looks like Rheinmetall is "all in"................

Germany: Rheinmetall opens new artillery ammunition factory – DW – 08/27/2025

Germany's largest arms manufacturer has inaugurated its latest munitions factory, to focus on the 155 mm artillery shells critical to supplying Ukraine. Rheinmetall's stock soared amid Europe's military spending spree.

www.dw.com

Can't imagine they are on the side of the room that wants the war to stop.

Europe is going broke funding this war.

Didn't they (Germany) recently announce that the money for entitlements will be running out soon, if they don't import a bunch of migrant workers?

France is also facing a huge debt crisis that may require a bailout form the IMF, which could be disastrous for the EU.

Interesting times...

 

[W54/XM-388]

New possible supervillain plan...
The USA is goading Europe to be all in on this war so they totally collapse and become a failed 3rd world continent and just have to lick the boots of the USA and do anything they are told and Trump gets is payback for them making fun of him...

 

[kthomas]

New possible supervillain plan...
The USA is goading Europe to be all in on this war so they totally collapse and become a failed 3rd world continent and just have to lick the boots of the USA and do anything they are told and Trump gets is payback for them making fun of him...

The EU is already a vassal state of the US, I don't think their collapse would be of much benefit to us

 

[Threadcutter308]

Europe is going broke funding this war.

Didn't they (Germany) recently announce that the money for entitlements will be running out soon, if they don't import a bunch of migrant workers?

France is also facing a huge debt crisis that may require a bailout form the IMF, which could be disastrous for the EU.

Interesting times...

"which could be disastrous for the EU"........

I'd say "and, the problem ?". But there's always the risk that I misunderstand the spirit in which you made your comment. Point being (from my humble opinion) is that the EU as a "governing body", needs to be completely dis-banded. I don't want to see any European country suffer any negative effects, but every last one of them would be a lot better off if the EU (as a governing body) dried up and blew away.

 

[kthomas]

"which could be disastrous for the EU"........

I'd say "and, the problem ?". But there's always the risk that I misunderstand the spirit in which you made your comment. Point being (from my humble opinion) is that the EU as a "governing body", needs to be completely dis-banded. I don't want to see any European country suffer any negative effects, but every last one of them would be a lot better off if the EU (as a governing body) dried up and blew away.

I agree.

I don't care at all about the EU and it's self immolation.

I believe it's a failed organization that will crumble sooner or later, and I couldn't care less than it does.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I agree.

I don't care at all about the EU and it's self immolation.

I believe it's a failed organization that will crumble sooner or later, and I couldn't care less than it does.

Yep, my only concern is how much fallout/collateral damage the individual "member" contries might suffer from if/when it happens.

 

[lariat]

Europe is going broke funding this war.

Didn't they (Germany) recently announce that the money for entitlements will be running out soon, if they don't import a bunch of migrant workers?

France is also facing a huge debt crisis that may require a bailout form the IMF, which could be disastrous for the EU.

Interesting times...

Yup.

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/analysis/germanys-welfare-model-has-reached-the-end-of-the-road/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/economics/private-blog-uk-france-in-need-of-imf-bailouts-here-we-go/

 

[lariat]

Zelensky Boasts He No Longer Needs US Permission For Long-Range Missile Strikes On Russia | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[lariat]

What Topcor admits in this article is interesting. The Ukes are inflicting damage.

https://en.topcor.ru/63573-ukrainskie-drony-mogut-atakovat-rossijskie-npz-v-nepreryvnom-rezhime-wsj.html

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I don't care at all about the EU and it's self immolation.

Looks like Putin has had enough, hope he steps up and smokes them all,...

Russia deliberately bombs British Council and EU's office in Kyiv

Russia launched the strikes on the Ukrainian capital even as it talks about ending the war and despite US President Donald Trump's push for a ceasefire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nkk]

Looks like Putin has had enough, hope he steps up and smokes them all,...

Russia deliberately bombs British Council and EU's office in Kyiv

Russia launched the strikes on the Ukrainian capital even as it talks about ending the war and despite US President Donald Trump's push for a ceasefire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

You know puccia raised the maximum age for military up to 70, there's still hope for you to yet young cumrade! for da motherland urraaa!!!

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

You know puccia raised the maximum age for military up to 70, there's still hope for you to yet young cumrade! for da motherland urraaa!!!
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Your the one that won't fight, and hides behind a keyboard. I hope/pray Putin smokes the fucking whole EU. W/O the US safety net you fucks will fall in 4-6 weeks, max. Ride Valdemar Ride,...

 

[mosin46]

Our history is actually quite rich in that, a fact that would be very hard to dispute.

In the context of the Ukraine crisis, American foreign policy has significantly increased the existential threat to Moscow, making the need for Russia to prevail a bitter pill to swallow - a reality accepted by neither America nor its Western European allies. This dynamic creates a dangerous situation where, if Russia begins to lose, it might resort to nuclear weapons to salvage the situation. Historically, during the Cold War, NATO had similar plans to use nuclear weapons if conventional forces were overwhelmed.

Another instance is Iran. Iran's nuclear ambitions are largely driven by a rational desire for deterrence, given its perception of being in the crosshairs of the United States and Israel. A military strike would likely fail to permanently dismantle Iran's nuclear program, as Tehran could rebuild its facilities with greater secrecy and fortification - the results would probably speak for themselves at this point. This could also push Iran to forge stronger ties with major powers like Russia and China, which would be detrimental to U.S. strategic interests.

In the spirit of our beloved 2nd Amendment along with Robert Heinlein’s "an armed society is a polite society" quote - one might even argue that every sovereign territory should possess some form of nuclear deterrent, as crazy as it may sound.

pretty much true. i guess my prob with all of our mil posturing and involvement goes back to the economy and deficit.
Iran was bombed for no good reason and no results shown. what was the cost of that jack off? it just pushed Iran to get into the nuc club which it seems they weren't into for some time. they will get help from Russia and/or China if needed. their rational for doing so can not be denied. just another "support our best friend" scam. MIC loved it i am sure.
ending support and money to Ukraine could have been started on 1/21. it wasn't. a CYA move or manifestation of campaign lies? how much has been lost there since then? as always the euro neo cons can't have it both ways. Russia is incompetent and moving slow as a result? or,Putin wants to rebuild the USSR and can do so? do you really believe that euros have the $s to buy anything and give it away after?
Venezuela is shaping up to be another big bucks waste of resources rat fuck. there is no need for it. ie if the border were handled right.
my nuc fears revolve around some US or NATO general knowing the war is a loss and using tac nucs in desperation. yes,there are crazies in power that think they will survive that. moving nucs into 4/5 countries in Europe after 10+ years of none there sounds like Cuban missile to me.
my point is our 37 tril + debt,tril $ interest payment,having the fed buy our worthless bonds because nobody else will. all that wasted on things that are in no way a threat to our national interest. only an interest to the MiC,digital elites,globalists and the Zionists that own congress and the white house.
not what i voted for anyway-as if that mattered.

 

[Terry Cross]

Yep, my only concern is how much fallout/collateral damage the individual "member" contries might suffer from if/when it happens.

I honestly don't know how many tangible benefits most of the EU member countries are gaining from the existence of that "union".

On the surface it was supposed to give everyone more leverage in the world markets with their collective buying and selling economies as well as a more cohesive military co-op.

From what I can tell every member country has simply lost more of their unique heritage and culture in the process while gaining none of the promised benefits.

Seemingly only the highbrow leadership that is constantly on the world stage seems to keep promoting the existence of the EU.

After all, that is their only claim to fame and by default, the power that comes with that appointed position. So basically, those elites can sniff each others ass like dogs, pat each other's backs for a job well meant and go to sleep each night thinking that they accomplished something great.

I think (and sincerely hope) that once the EU crumbles, most member countries that consider themselves worth saving will revert back to a focused strategy that best suits their own stability and prosperity.

It is after all, totally possible to be friends and allies without having to wear the same color underwear and adopt the same fucking currency.

 

[mosin46]

I honestly don't know how many tangible benefits most of the EU member countries are gaining from the existence of that "union".

On the surface it was supposed to give everyone more leverage in the world markets with their collective buying and selling economies as well as a more cohesive military co-op.

From what I can tell every member country has simple lost more of their unique heritage and culture in the process while gaining none of the promised benefits.

Seemingly only the highbrow leadership that is constantly on the world stage seems to keep promoting the existence of the EU.

After all, that is their only claim to fame and by default, the power that comes with that appointed position. So basically, those elites can sniff each others ass like dogs, pat each other's backs for a job well meant and go to sleep each night thinking that they accomplished something great.

I think (and sincerely hope) that once the EU crumbles, most member countries that consider themselves worth saving will revert back to a focused strategy that best suits their own stability and prosperity.

It is after all, totally possible to be friends and allies without having to wear the same color underwear and adopt the same fucking currency.

it was formed in an effort to destroy cultures,nationality,economies and put a globalist agenda in to maintain with force.

 

[Terry Cross]

it was formed in an effort to destroy cultures,nationality,economies and put a globalist agenda in to maintain with force.

Mission accomplished. . . . .almost.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I honestly don't know how many tangible benefits most of the EU member countries are gaining from the existence of that "union".

On the surface it was supposed to give everyone more leverage in the world markets with their collective buying and selling economies as well as a more cohesive military co-op.

From what I can tell every member country has simple lost more of their unique heritage and culture in the process while gaining none of the promised benefits.

Seemingly only the highbrow leadership that is constantly on the world stage seems to keep promoting the existence of the EU.

After all, that is their only claim to fame and by default, the power that comes with that appointed position. So basically, those elites can sniff each others ass like dogs, pat each other's backs for a job well meant and go to sleep each night thinking that they accomplished something great.

I think (and sincerely hope) that once the EU crumbles, most member countries that consider themselves worth saving will revert back to a focused strategy that best suits their own stability and prosperity.

It is after all, totally possible to be friends and allies without having to wear the same color underwear and adopt the same fucking currency.

Precisely this.

If you want to see the EU's (governing body) true colors, just look at the strong arming they've been laying on the "big four" (Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia). Pretty much all of them, but Viktor Orban of Hungary in particular have told the EU to go fuck themselves.

They haven't (to my knowledge anyway) tried to "Hit" Orban. But, they did (and were almost successful) "Hit" Robert Fico of Slovakia;

Polish prime minister receives death threats after shooting of Slovakian counterpart

Donald Tusk says he received death threats after assassination attempt on Robert Fico - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

And, from the looks of things, they have their "sights" set on Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

 

[mosin46]

Precisely this.

If you want to see the EU's (governing body) true colors, just look at the strong arming they've been laying on the "big four" (Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia). Pretty much all of them, but Viktor Orban of Hungary in particular have told the EU to go fuck themselves.

They haven't (to my knowledge anyway) tried to "Hit" Orban. But, they did (and were almost successful) "Hit" Robert Fico of Slovakia;

Polish prime minister receives death threats after shooting of Slovakian counterpart

Donald Tusk says he received death threats after assassination attempt on Robert Fico - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

And, from the looks of things, they have their "sights" set on Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

it seems that the Ukes have hit the Hungary and Slovakia oil pipeline. one can hope that Putin finishes Ukraine off for good. have said maybe they should move into western Ukraine to help finish it off. you can bet that the Azov types will be used elsewhere by the EU.
i still fail to know why Trump has not helped shut it down by stopping any aid or assistance.

 

[Edsel]

It's incredible how such narratives can do a 180 shift on a dime, and people just go along with it...

2014.

2017.

2019.

2023.

2034.

If you're on TV with a coat and tie or have a decent rack most of America will believe anything you say, literally anything.

It's the Democrat American default mindset.

As far as we Americans are concerned, we have demonstrated over and over again what suckers we are for our own propaganda.

It is our culture to be so easily swayed by this insatiable appetite for a villain du jour that we never stop to ask why.

You might even say that we want and need our villains to facilitate our own virtue signaling.

Naturally, our government exploits our weak - mindedness to great effect.

 

[nkk]

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2014.

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2017.

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2019.

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2023.

As far as us Americans are concerned, we have demonstrated over and over again what suckers we are for our own propaganda.

It is our culture to be so easily swayed by this insatiable appetite for a villain du jour that we never stop to ask why.

You might even say that we want and need our villains to facilitate our own virtue signaling.

Naturally, our government exploits our weak - mindedness to great effect.

oof

 

[Edsel]

oof

Unfortunately, there is a substantive amount of truth to that.

From previous posts on this very forum, a surprisingly large number of people actually think Pakistan is part of the Middle East.

Our very own Pete Hegseth can't name a single ASEAN country correctly, a region where he wants to start a "kinetic" conflict in.

Ted Cruz fails to demonstrate basic knowledge on Iran, a country we have bombed.

Trump had no idea that English is the primary language in Liberia.

The list goes on.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

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2023.



As far as us Americans are concerned, we have demonstrated over and over again what suckers we are for our own propaganda.

It is our culture to be so easily swayed by this insatiable appetite for a villain du jour that we never stop to ask why.

You might even say that we want and need our villains to facilitate our own virtue signaling.

Naturally, our government exploits our weak - mindedness to great effect.

The biggest enemy of the US is not listed there. Those listed look to me like enemy's we have made, to keep funding to the MIC flowing.

 

[mosin46]

biggest enemy of the USA is Washington,DC. China and Israel are competitive but inside enemies (traitors) are much worse.
our friends list = 0

 

[Edsel]

The biggest enemy of the US is not listed there.

biggest enemy of the USA is Washington,DC.

I would agree that we are both our own and the world's worst enemy.

Unless you had something else in mind.

Those listed look to me like enemy's we have made...

China and Israel are competitive but inside enemies (traitors) are much worse.
our friends list = 0

No argument from me there.

I would say that we are Israel, though.

We have yet to officially demonstrate any substantive difference from their policies.

 

[akmike47]

Unfortunately, there is a substantive amount of truth to that.

From previous posts on this very forum, a surprisingly large number of people actually think Pakistan is part of the Middle East.

Our very own Pete Hegseth can't name a single ASEAN country correctly, a region where he wants to start a hot conflict in.

Ted Cruz fails to demonstrate basic knowledge on Iran, a country we have bombed.

Trump had no idea that English is the primary language in Liberia.

The list goes on.

I can see why people may think so, they are shown it is.

 

[nkk]

I can see why people may think so, they are shown it is.
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When Amerifats discover the metric system we shall become unstoppable.

 

[Edsel]

I can see why people may think so, they are shown it is.
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Sad, isn't it?

That we can't even be bothered to flip the pages of a proper high school or collegiate classical history book?

The "worldatlas" image source conflates information from the idea of a "Greater Middle East," which is a nebulous assignment of countries based on perceived geopolitical alliances.

While there may appear to be a lot of useful information aggregated on that one page, the material itself appears very poorly written and is quite misleading as far as our topic is concerned.

The concept of the "Greater Middle East" has partitioning very similar to that of the U.S. Geographic Combatant Commands, so one could imagine how such misleading information readily self - propagates.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

When Amerifats discover the metric system we shall become unstoppable.

says the person who won't fight for its own country,... the eu is full of short memory types.

 

[akmike47]

When Amerifats discover the metric system we shall become unstoppable.

Plenty of Americans use the metric system daily, it isn’t that great it’s just another system

 

[Terry Cross]

Plenty of Americans use the metric system daily, it isn’t that great it’s just another system