Seekins DMR 223 Wylde or Piece together

[UKMan]

Any experience with the Seekins DMR in 223 Wylde? Been looking at piecing together a 5.56/.223 "precision" build for awhile.

Originally looking at putting a WOA complete upper with their predator 20'" barrel on a LWRC lower with a Larue trigger. That build would come in a couple hundred cheaper than the Seekins but wondering if buying the overall rifle from Seekins would be better for overall tolerances/ready to go out of the box. Thanks!

 

[Jsp556]

The semi-monolithic reciever is worth the upcharge. If you want to save money go with the Aero enhanced. Upper to lower fitment is about the same comparing several Aero sets to my Seekins.

 

[mattman215]

My Seekins dmr shoots incredible. Easily 1 moa sometimes better if I really try and if I get a lucky box of ammo.

 

[db2000]

Mine have all been custom built with Seekins receivers and a few Seekins parts like XRay stock sometimes and proprietary handguards. Barrels, triggers, BCGs, springs, grips, AGB, etc I have my own preferences. I’ve never seen any complaints though with factory Seekins rifles. They offer great CS whether you build or buy completed.

 

[flogxal]

After shooting the Havak Hit, if I were looking for a complete right now Seekins would be short list for sure. I've built some nice shooting ARs but went ready-made for a bolt gun, and I might be lazy enough to do another ready-made in AR some time. Seekins would be at or near top of my list. Ridgeline too.

Building a nice shooting .223 Wylde isn't too tough. But building one with parts optimized against rail deflection etc narrows your choices and it can take some effort & time to replicate what you would get in a Seekins or Ridgeline. And your final product still might not be, in all cases, their equal.

 

[Black Bart]

Any experience with the Seekins DMR in 223 Wylde? Been looking at piecing together a 5.56/.223 "precision" build for awhile.

Originally looking at putting a WOA complete upper with their predator 20'" barrel on a LWRC lower with a Larue trigger. That build would come in a couple hundred cheaper than the Seekins but wondering if buying the overall rifle from Seekins would be better for overall tolerances/ready to go out of the box. Thanks!

I have close to the same setup. Bought the dmr first, great rifle and accurate. Then bought parts to put a complete rifle together with the woa 20 inch predator, rca adjustable gas, adaptable tt trigger, jp buffer. Also awesome. Have aptr vent 1 and it’s as long as a night in jail but is now my favorite rifle to shoot. The dmr is a great deal for the money and you can always change parts out if you want. I would recommend just getting the seeking and start shooting.

 

[UKMan]

My Seekins dmr shoots incredible. Easily 1 moa sometimes better if I really try and if I get a lucky box of ammo.

What caliber did you go with? I ended up ordering an SP10 in 6.5cm but going on 6 months of waiting I’ve forgotten about it until it arrives and now on the DMR again for a potential buy.

 

[UKMan]

I have close to the same setup. Bought the dmr first, great rifle and accurate. Then bought parts to put a complete rifle together with the woa 20 inch predator, rca adjustable gas, adaptable tt trigger, jp buffer. Also awesome. Have aptr vent 1 and it’s as long as a night in jail but is now my favorite rifle to shoot. The dmr is a great deal for the money and you can always change parts out if you want. I would recommend just getting the seeking and start shooting.

Which one do you like more? I ended up ordering an SP10 back in March that I’m still waiting on. DMR seems to be available now if I wanted it but have always heard great things about WOA.

 

[Black Bart]

Which one do you like more? I ended up ordering an SP10 back in March that I’m still waiting on. DMR seems to be available now if I wanted it but have always heard great things about WOA.

I like the build better because of the 5/8x24 threads, the rca bolt carrier and ergo grip, but I have way more money in it than the seekins

 

[flogxal]

What caliber did you go with? I ended up ordering an SP10 in 6.5cm but going on 6 months of waiting I’ve forgotten about it until it arrives and now on the DMR again for a potential buy.

Seekins seems to do work in large batches. When I got my Havak Hit in 6.5 CM, I couldn't get a .308 Win barrel. I back-ordered one and it was a good 6-8 mos before they were in stock again. Worth the wait IMO, if it's just a matter of being antsy on a Seekins. If choosing between SP10 and DMR based on availability, well, I'd say get what you originally wanted and put your feet up meantime.

 

[fedupflyer]

How much experience do you have assembling the AR pattern carbine?

Just caue you can put one together doesn't necessarily mean it will shoot well (sub MOA).

If you don't already have the proper tools, it will cost you more than a couple of hundred you would save buy getting one pre-built.

 

[UKMan]

Seekins seems to do work in large batches. When I got my Havak Hit in 6.5 CM, I couldn't get a .308 Win barrel. I back-ordered one and it was a good 6-8 mos before they were in stock again. Worth the wait IMO, if it's just a matter of being antsy on a Seekins. If choosing between SP10 and DMR based on availability, well, I'd say get what you originally wanted and put your feet up meantime.

Definitely testing my patience, but I know the SP10 will be worth the wait. DMR is definitely high on my list and they seem to be everywhere right now.

 

[UKMan]

How much experience do you have assembling the AR pattern carbine?

Just caue you can put one together doesn't necessarily mean it will shoot well (sub MOA).

If you don't already have the proper tools, it will cost you more than a couple of hundred you would save buy getting one pre-built.

Absolutely zero lol. Just like shooting them! My idea of “putting one together” is strapping a complete upper to a complete lower

 

[WeR0206]

How much experience do you have assembling the AR pattern carbine?

Just caue you can put one together doesn't necessarily mean it will shoot well (sub MOA).

If you don't already have the proper tools, it will cost you more than a couple of hundred you would save buy getting one pre-built.

This is a good thing to call out. I recently put together an AR15 tool list and you’re looking at around $250ish for everything. But if you plan on building multiple uppers its worth it. Also nice to have them for repairs/maintenance/upgrades.

AR-15 build tools & instructional videos:

• For torquing barrel nuts and muzzle devices:
  • Midwest Industries Upper Receiver Rod (# MIURR) ($80) or Magpul Bev Block (# MAG536) ($30) (good for uppers too tight for MIURR)
• For general upper use (installing barrels into thermofit uppers, fwd assist, etc.):
  • Wheeler Upper Vice Block (# 156888) ($32)
• For torquing castle nut & general lower use:
  • NcStar AR-15 Lower Receiver (Extension Jig) Vice Block (# VTARLWRVB) ($20)
• For general lower & upper use (installing gas tube roll pin, securing the lower, etc.):
  • Midwest Industries Lower Receiver Block (# MILRB) ($25)
• Roll pin punches:
  • Grace USA 7 Piece Steel Roll Spring Punch Set (# GRRS7) ($25)
  • Grace USA 5 Piece Roll Spring (Pin) Holder Set (# JYGRRSH5) ($34)
• Armorer’s wrench:
  • Magpul Armorer’s Wrench (# MAG535) ($55) or Midwest Industries MI-ARAW Armorers Wrench (# MIARAW) ($55)
• Hammers:
  • Lightweight Dual Tip Hammer ($5) or Real Avid Accu-Punch Hammer and Punches Kit (# AVHPS) ($30)
• Misc:
  • Sinclair AR-15 Bolt Vice (for removing ejector from bolt) (# 14950) ($25)
• Optional (for installing/removing barrels in thermofit uppers, heat upper threads on high for ~30-60 secs):
  • 1”x12” Wooden Dial Rod ($10)
  • 16oz Rubber Mallet ($12)
  • Warrior 1500 W Heatgun ($20 at Harbor Freight)
  • Wheeler Fat Wrench In-lb Torque Wrench (# 553556) ($55) (for torquing screws for handguards, gas blocks, etc.)
• Total cost: $251 (least expensive options and no optional tools) or $423(most expensive options and all optional tools)

Instructional videos:

• SOTAR Upper Receiver Tools & Techniques:
• SOTAR lower receiver tools:

Threadlockers and grease:

• Aeroshell 64 (for preventing different metals from galvanizing together, used on castle nut threads, barrel nut threads, etc.)
• For gas block screws:
  • Loctite 246 (high temp/oil resistant) or Rocksett
• For muzzle devices/suppressor mounts:
  • Rocksett
• For grip screws, scope bases, etc.:
  • Vibratite VC-3

 

[UKMan]

This is a good thing to call out. I recently put together an AR15 tool list and you’re looking at around $250ish for everything. But if you plan on building multiple uppers its worth it. Also nice to have them for repairs/maintenance/upgrades.

AR-15 build tools & instructional videos:

• For torquing barrel nuts and muzzle devices:
  • Midwest Industries Upper Receiver Rod (# MIURR) ($80) or Magpul Bev Block (# MAG536) ($30) (good for uppers too tight for MIURR)
• For general upper use (installing barrels into thermofit uppers, fwd assist, etc.):
  • Wheeler Upper Vice Block (# 156888) ($32)
• For torquing castle nut & general lower use:
  • NcStar AR-15 Lower Receiver (Extension Jig) Vice Block (# VTARLWRVB) ($20)
• For general lower & upper use (installing gas tube roll pin, securing the lower, etc.):
  • Midwest Industries Lower Receiver Block (# MILRB) ($25)
• Roll pin punches:
  • Grace USA 7 Piece Steel Roll Spring Punch Set (# GRRS7) ($25)
  • Grace USA 5 Piece Roll Spring (Pin) Holder Set (# JYGRRSH5) ($34)
• Armorer’s wrench:
  • Magpul Armorer’s Wrench (# MAG535) ($55) or Midwest Industries MI-ARAW Armorers Wrench (# MIARAW) ($55)
• Hammers:
  • Lightweight Dual Tip Hammer ($5) or Real Avid Accu-Punch Hammer and Punches Kit (# AVHPS) ($30)
• Misc:
  • Sinclair AR-15 Bolt Vice (for removing ejector from bolt) (# 14950) ($25)
• Optional (for installing/removing barrels in thermofit uppers, heat upper threads on high for ~60-90 secs):
  • 1”x12” Wooden Dial Rod ($10)
  • 16oz Rubber Mallet ($12)
  • Warrior 1500 W Heatgun ($20 at Harbor Freight)
  • Wheeler Fat Wrench In-lb Torque Wrench (# 553556) ($55) (for torquing screws for handguards, gas blocks, etc.)
• Total cost: $251 (least expensive options and no optional tools) or $423(most expensive options and all optional tools)

Instructional videos:

• SOTAR Upper Receiver Tools & Techniques:
• SOTAR lower receiver tools:

Threadlockers and grease:

• Aeroshell 64 (for preventing different metals from galvanizing together, used on castle nut threads, barrel nut threads, etc.)
• For gas block screws:
  • Loctite 246 (high temp/oil resistant) or Rocksett
• For muzzle devices/suppressor mounts:
  • Rocksett
• For grip screws, scope bases, etc.:
  • Vibratite VC-3

That’s a hell of a list/post!! Thank you! Looks like I need to make a shopping list and watch some videos for the future. Enjoy shooting but should probably learn how to work on them as well besides a simple trigger swap

 

[WeR0206]

That’s a hell of a list/post!! Thank you! Looks like I need to make a shopping list and watch some videos for the future. Enjoy shooting but should probably learn how to work on them as well besides a simple trigger swap

You’re welcome…I’m just trying to pay it forward. There are of course a lot of alternatives to the tools in my list but I simply listed the tools I’m personally familiar with. Definitely helpful to learn to work on them if you’re gonna be doing a lot of shooting.