Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

It already exists.
Yep, and i'd be willing to place a large bet that there was one overhead. The only way we'll find out, is if it goes to court, and even then, if there's enough compelling evidence to support a case without revealing overhead 24x7 recording, we'll never find out about it.
 
Bongino and Patel just showed up for FBI presser asking for public's help in finding suspicious person on surveillance (no name or pseudoname was given). Its been noted that he could still be local or be anywhere in country.
Did Dan looked "shocked" to the core when asking for our help?

I'm starting to feel embarrassed for all the Fox News correspondents and political influencers that were given some of the most important jobs in the world.
 
The FBI just showed a film of him - he hung off the edge of the roof and dropped a couple feet - see above. They are looking to collect DNA from where he hung off the roof - I guess they are waiting for it to rain first.
Yeah I get that. I just saw that video. But they are still saying that the rifle was in his pants and this surveillance footage is how they were able to track his movements to the wooded area and find the supposed rifle. My point is… how does he jump from a building with a bolt action rifle in his pants… that’s nearly as long as his leg… yet when he lands, his leg bends what appears to be 90 degrees…. If not more. Explain that. There CANNOT be a rifle in his pant leg when he jumps if he landed the way he did. Which means the rifle they found is either fake. Or was planted. No way he jump with the rifle in there. At least not the rifle they allege he ditched in the woods.
 
Where is the rifle?
Exactly!!!! His leg clearly bends atleast 90 degrees. They are alleging he still had the rifle on him. In his pant leg. And was headed to the wooded area where he ditched the rifle and they later found it. Bullshit. That rifle was either planted or a rifle was not actually found.
 
This whole theory that he jumped off the building with a bolt action rifle in his pants, landed, knees full bent to where it looks like his ass touches the ground. And runs off to some nearby wooded area to ditch the supposed rifle they are claiming they found with a spent cartridge in the chamber. No fucking way he jumped from that building with THAT rifle in his pants and his legs bent the way they did when he landed. No fucking way. Make this shit make sense. Do they think we are fucking stupid

Yeah after watching that video, there is no sign of a rifle anywhere. Definitely not in his pants. He doesn't drop a rifle. He doesn't throw one down to the grass. He isn't carrying one. And I don't think even a Mouser that's been broken down to just barreled action and stock could fit in a backpack. Definitely missing pieces here.
 
Please take a closer look...........JD Vance is walking with is hand on the casket........he is not carrying anything.
Maybe that is considered "carrying" to some people, but not to me.
I thought the same thing, counted the detail even, but didn't want to be distasteful so let it so and wrote it off to a photo-op to prepare the Never Trumper to take the helm soon.
 
The back pack doesn’t look like it would fit a bolt gun broken into two pieces barreled action/stock. Even if it was, we are to believe he took the time to disassemble the rifle before fleeing and then reassemble in the woods. Really?
Yup. Not a happening with a Mauser with rounds still in the mag well. They didn’t think that one through. And disassembly from the stock takes a minute to begin with. Assembly may be quicker, but it ain’t fast.
 
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Where is the rifle?

Yeah I get that. I just saw that video. But they are still saying that the rifle was in his pants and this surveillance footage is how they were able to track his movements to the wooded area and find the supposed rifle. My point is… how does he jump from a building with a bolt action rifle in his pants… that’s nearly as long as his leg… yet when he lands, his leg bends what appears to be 90 degrees…. If not more. Explain that. There CANNOT be a rifle in his pant leg when he jumps if he landed the way he did. Which means the rifle they found is either fake. Or was planted. No way he jump with the rifle in there. At least not the rifle they allege he ditched in the woods.
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MAYBE he broke the rifle down to just a barreled action and stock and put it in his backpack. But two things wrong with that:

1. I doubt he took the time to disassemble a bolt-action rifle after taking the shot and fleeing.
2. That would mean he had to RE-ASSEMBLE it before ditching it as law enforcement claims they found. Photos are of a fully assembled bolt action.

If the rifle is wrapped up in whatever he drops on the top of the roof... I dunno. It doesn't look like a rifle is wrapped up in whatever that was.
 
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The back pack doesn’t look like it would fit a bolt gun broken into two pieces (barreled action/stock). Even if it was, we are to believe he took the time to disassemble the rifle before fleeing and then reassemble in the woods. Really?
Please stop questioning it. He clearly had some Fix-It-Stiks, but now people are arguing he again shoved it in his pants ( :) ) before RUNNING off, sans limp. You can't make this shit up (they can, however, while asking for our help).

It sickens me.

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Exactly!!!! His leg clearly bends atleast 90 degrees. They are alleging he still had the rifle on him. In his pant leg. And was headed to the wooded area where he ditched the rifle and they later found it. Bullshit. That rifle was either planted or a rifle was not actually found.
What the fuck potato are you watching it on. Put it on a large, 70" high def tv. You can clearly see the rifle in multiple frames. he uses his right arm to jump down with it and runs with it.
 
Full length hunting rifle? IDK?
Barrel sticking out somewhere could get lost in the resolution of the camera. Can't really get a good look at what it is but in some frames it looks about 4ft long. Wrapped up in something maybe? IDK either, but ole boy definitely has something that he tosses as he jumps.
 
I thought the same thing, counted the detail even, but didn't want to be distasteful so let it so and wrote it off to a photo-op to prepare the Never Trumper to take the helm soon.
No news sources reported that he carried Charlie.
Only the X member that made the post and comment.

Vance was clearly not carrying anything and wasn't pretending to carry anything.

News outlets only reported that the VP "escorted" the body.
 
Yeah I get that. I just saw that video. But they are still saying that the rifle was in his pants

I think they said the limp walking was him with it in his pants, in the video you can see his has a backpack on and he has a bag in one hand with something long sticking out, it looks like a barrel.
 
No news sources reported that he carried Charlie.
Only the X member that made the post and comment.

Vance was clearly not carrying anything and wasn't pretending to carry anything.

News outlets only reported that the VP "escorted" the body.
Interesting take, sir. He was even marching lock-step with them, but I guess he was just providing emotional support and leadership.
 
You can see it in a bag in one hand the barrel is sticking out. When he runs he's holding the tip of the barrel to keep it from falling out.
Yep. Better resolution screen shows it pretty good.
Dudes need to remember that it's a dinky sporter rifle with slim barrel that doesn't weigh shit, not an 18lb AIAX with suppressor, ATACR and WMRF that would have the visual footprint of a VW bus.
 
Interesting take, sir. He was even marching lock-step with them, but I guess he was just providing emotional support and leadership.
I'm not taking sides on anything. Just calling balls and strikes based on what I have seen reported and I have NOT seen everything out there.

It is done a lot.
I've seen it a bunch even at less formal transfers where there is a full contingency of Pall Bearers but still several "honorary" Pall Bearers listed.

I just took it that he was there as a friend and supporter showing respect by the personal escort.
 
Please stop questioning it. He clearly had some Fix-It-Stiks, but now people are arguing he again shoved it in his pants ( :) ) before RUNNING off, sans limp. You can't make this shit up (they can, however, while asking for our help).

It sickens me.

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Gravity Ballistics or SAC Final Level?!? That’s the real question.
 
Yeah after watching that video, there is no sign of a rifle anywhere. Definitely not in his pants. He doesn't drop a rifle. He doesn't throw one down to the grass. He isn't carrying one. And I don't think even a Mouser that's been broken down to just barreled action and stock could fit in a backpack. Definitely missing pieces here.
Buddy, I would like to agree with you because I don't trust most of the authorities and certainly not the reporting as far as I can spit but it's there. Search around for the better uploads that aren't compressed as fuck and don't try to look at it on your phone.

I've got a bullshit flag I'm itching to throw as well but this ain't the play to do it on.
 
I'm not taking sides on anything. Just calling balls and strikes based on what I have seen reported and I have NOT seen everything out there.

It is done a lot.
I've seen it a bunch even at less formal transfers where there is a full contingency of Pall Bearers but still several "honorary" Pall Bearers listed.

I just took it that he was there as a friend and supporter showing respect by the personal escort.

I hear you, sir. I guess I take issue with the "he wasn't pretending" part.

I'll blame it on the sauce tonight, but I have been around that enough to know no photo-op goes to waste. He even tried to remember how to do a left-face, at which point he did his half-ass pivot and knew it was probably best to take his two fingers off the casket and hoist the Bush-like "Mission Accomplished" banner.

I'll bet you that Blizzard, however, that it wasn't happenstance rolling the cameras, trying to march in step, touching the casket, and doing a left-face. I've been around that too much. Never let a crisis go to waste.

He's the epitome of pretenders, but will save that for another thread out of respect to Mr. Kirk, sir. Blizzard on me for I digress.
 
Buddy, I would like to agree with you because I don't trust most of the authorities and certainly not the reporting as far as I can spit but it's there. Search around for the better uploads that aren't compressed as fuck and don't try to look at it on your phone.

I've got a bullshit flag I'm itching to throw as well but this ain't the play to do it on.

If there's a higher-res version I'm all for watching it. I do see he drops something, like a shirt or towel or whatever. Then picks it up before dropping down from the roof. You're saying the rifle is wrapped up in that?
 
Buddy, I would like to agree with you because I don't trust most of the authorities and certainly not the reporting as far as I can spit but it's there. Search around for the better uploads that aren't compressed as fuck and don't try to look at it on your phone.

I've got a bullshit flag I'm itching to throw as well but this ain't the play to do it on.
What about the 4 photos they released of him in the stairwell? No sign of a rifle in his pants or backpack. I assume those are pictures of him walking to the firing position.
 
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The back pack doesn’t look like it would fit a bolt gun broken into two pieces (barreled action/stock). Even if it did, we are to believe he took the time to disassemble the rifle before fleeing and then reassemble in the woods. Really?
the film shows more than i have seen prev. but no,i don't see a metal tube sticking out. and taking the gun down after shooting does not seem plausible at all. dump it in the woods? not just leave it? gonna lose it anyway roof or woods. IF this is as claimed,and it looks like it could be,then stupidity and carelessness that is inconsistent with what looks like an advanced planned hit.
all the stuff coming out about the gun itself makes it seem like this successful murder was just bad luck for Charlie. should have been a near miss like Trump 1. truth is it seems like a lucky hit almost missing. off about 4" ,Trump missed by about 1". so,speculation and opinion difference continue.
 
I can't find a higher-res version of that video. The ONLY video I can find anywhere is from the press conference, which is just someone recording on a camera of the video playing on a tv screen at the press conference. Blurry and pixelated as shit.
 
all the stuff coming out about the gun itself makes it seem like this successful murder was just bad luck for Charlie.

Exactly what I was thinking, a repeat of the Trump PA shooting but this time the guy didn't miss. It looks like just a 1" to one side and Charlie would've made it.
 
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I hear you, sir. I guess I take issue with the "he wasn't pretending" part.

I'll blame it on the sauce tonight, but I have been around that enough to know no photo-op goes to waste. He even tried to remember how to do a left-face, at which point he did his half-ass pivot and knew it was probably best to take his two fingers off the casket and hoist the Bush-like "Mission Accomplished" banner.
There's always the possibility that he was just trying to avoid tripping feet with the little people assigned to actually carry.
If that was me instead of the VP, I would have fucking tripped over their feet and had Charlie's casket on top of me and his widow beating the piss out of me and using words she's never even thought of before . . . . . . all on national TV.

I'm just gifted like that.

I'll bet you that Blizzard, however, that it wasn't happenstance rolling the cameras, trying to march in step, touching the casket, and doing a left-face. I've been around that too much. Never let a crisis go to waste.

He's the epitome of pretenders, but will save that for another thread out of respect to Mr. Kirk, sir. Blizzard on me for I digress.
For sure, politicians are always going to politic.

I'm trying to give him a teeny bit of cred here because it was well known he was actual buds with Charlie and their families. I'm sure he also had orders from the Trumpster to be there and represent.
 
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