New 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge

thanks for the heads up. I've heard mixed things about Satern barrels. Some people love them others think they are trash, but that pretty much applies to anything these days lol

Highpower shooters loved them for years. If I recall, they offered a left hand twist .224 that got some attention due to how it recoiled offhand, but I could be confusing this with another brand.
 
I think Satern tends to make barrels with short gas systems. Like 18" grendels with mid gas. Not for me. I beleive there were also two diffrent qualities of barrels sold under that name. The 18" grendel midgas satern barrel I had was ok. MOAish.

You always have to remeber lots of people not only can't shoot, but couldn't find their ass with both hands.
 
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Seems like all the 6arc crew is in this thread, good.

Got some Hornady black label and a 6mm "0.241" mandrel coming in today.
Do any of you know what the difference between Hornady 105g bthp and their Aeromatch 105g bullets is.

Aeromatch supposedly is small batch and same lott, good.
Bur their verbage about the ogive is confusing.

As I understand it their legacy 105g bthp is secant ogive and the Aeromatch is tangent or hybrid?

Local store is out of both.
 
Seems like all the 6arc crew is in this thread, good.

Got some Hornady black label and a 6mm "0.241" mandrel coming in today.
Do any of you know what the difference between Hornady 105g bthp and their Aeromatch 105g bullets is.

Aeromatch supposedly is small batch and same lott, good.
Bur their verbage about the ogive is confusing.

As I understand it their legacy 105g bthp is secant ogive and the Aeromatch is tangent or hybrid?

Local store is out of both.
I could be wrong, but I think their aeromatch 105 is supposed to be a clone of the berger 105 target which is a hybrid ogive and yes the 105 bthp is secant
 
I just got the Hornady blk 6arc delivered. Yup secant ogive and no damn surprise doesn't fit well in my brand new Lee seating stem.

Plunk check was perfect and also chambered a little tight on my uncleaned new barrel using finger pressure on back of bcg. No scratches upon slow manual extraction.

Now to get my hands on an Aeromatch 105g
 
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thanks for the heads up. I've heard mixed things about Satern barrels. Some people love them others think they are trash, but that pretty much applies to anything these days lol
Mine shot great for about 1200 rounds and now it’s starting to double group and do all kinds of weird stuff. Shoot one 10 shot group in one are. Cool it off come back and the next 10 shots go like 6 inches to the right of the other group. Very odd.
 
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Mine shot great for about 1200 rounds and now it’s starting to double group and do all kinds of weird stuff. Shoot one 10 shot group in one are. Cool it off come back and the next 10 shots go like 6 inches to the right of the other group. Very odd.

This may sound obvious, but change to a known good optic/mount. I’ve seen this and it was a lens changing parallax that had to be repaired.

And if you haven’t, scope the throat for a carbon ring.
 
I had a Leopold scope shooting nothing but 223 unknowingly have the erector blow up for no apparent reason or abuse.

Cost me a deer and embarrassment on a 200 yard chip shot.

Something loose, worn but changing to another scope and mount is a quick way to narrow the field like @FatBoy said.
 
I quit Leupold long ago. Not because I’ve broken one, but I RSO at the local range 5-6 days a year, and shoot in the off hours a lot.

I’ve seen enough people complain about broken leupold, or not holding zero, or turrets that don’t repeat/tract. Even the high end Leupold scopes.

I’d rather not have to pay $1500+ to have a decent hunting scope that tracks true and returns to zero, when Arken and Athlon and others make scopes under $600 that track true.

Flame suit on, but the Philippines and China are giving Oregon a run for their money value wise.
 
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X-Caliber 14.5" 4140 barrel, HBAR profile, VG6 brake (P&W), Aero bolt, BCM BLEM upper, PSA lower, G S3G trigger, MI drop-in handguards, Vudu 5-25x.
yeah, not free-floated, heresy, blasphemy! Therefore HBAR.
Geissele, E-Lander, ASC mags.
 
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This may sound obvious, but change to a known good optic/mount. I’ve seen this and it was a lens changing parallax that had to be repaired.

And if you haven’t, scope the throat for a carbon ring.
It’s the barrel. I tried 3 different scopes and switched them. Nightforces all worked fine on the other guns.

Checked for a carbon ring after cleaning and nothing was present. Took it back out and shot another 200 rounds with similar results. I’ve just had bad luck with cheaper 6ARC barrels. The Odin I had was abysmal. The satern was a laser beam. Factory ammo and Handloads. Gonna try it one last time with 108’s tomorrow. I didn’t get the cut rifled one though I should specify I got it through Grendel Hunter but it is a satern barrel. It probably has close to 3k on it because even though it wasn’t tight grouping it didn’t stop me from hitting IPSC’s out to 1100 yards. Getting great ES and SD still with my 27.5 tac 108 ELDM Ruag greenfire primer load. I loaded the next load right at mag length of 2.295 COAL. We will see how it does tomorrow. X caliber bull barrel is next in the chute.
 
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It’s the barrel. I tried 3 different scopes and switched them. Nightforces all worked fine on the other guns.

Checked for a carbon ring after cleaning and nothing was present. Took it back out and shot another 200 rounds with similar results. I’ve just had bad luck with cheaper 6ARC barrels. The Odin I had was abysmal. The satern was a laser beam. Factory ammo and Handloads. Gonna try it one last time with 108’s tomorrow. I didn’t get the cut rifled one though I should specify I got it through Grendel Hunter but it is a satern barrel. It probably has close to 3k on it because even though it wasn’t tight grouping it didn’t stop me from hitting IPSC’s out to 1100 yards. Getting great ES and SD still with my 27.5 tac 108 ELDM Ruag greenfire primer load. I loaded the next load right at mag length of 2.295 COAL. We will see how it does tomorrow. X caliber bull barrel is next in the chute.
What mags are you using?