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A friend of my bother lost both parents to a robbery murder. He contacted a serial killer serving life for something like a dozen murders including at least one child. The inmate killed his parents murderer, but both were found out. Brother's friend did a couple years and said he would do it again.

The serial killer was sentenced to death for the killing. Justice?

Tough question to answer. "Street Justice" is always complex, being outside the "Justice System." A lot of factors come into play.

First, how did the original trial for the murdered parents evolve? Was it Death penalty eligible? Did the prosecutor seek it? Did they get it? And was it subsequently overturned on a technicality resulting in a life sentence for that inmate? If the latter, then I'd lean more likely towards the "Street Justice" in the prison being appropriate. If the death penalty was never "on the table" for that original inmate, then I'd say the "prison justice" resulting in the OG inmate's murder was not "justice" but "vengeance."

As for the serial killer, is his death sentence justified? 'Fraid so. He made the choice to exact "street justice" for the friend of your brother, knowing what price might be paid for it. Some serial killers in his position might consider it a "price they're willing to pay" for that street justice, especially if they perceive that the "justice system" failed them, originally.

Watch this movie: The Star Chamber.. It's about a group of judges that are fed up with a lot of the adjudications they have to administer, knowing that the defendants are guilty as Hell, but are getting off. James B Sikking stars as a parent whose daughter was murdered. But the defendant was acquitted on a technicality and never faced true justice. Sikking's character decided to exact "justice" for himself and for his daughter. And yes, he was caught and faced whatever penalty he did (not sure if it was death), but he states, while in prison, "At least I did something."
 
Had the first sweet taters she pulled a month ago for super last night. Pretty good, but a bit early. The ones in the bucket should be sweeter and better texture.
There are few 90 day varieties. I think Georgia jet is one. I had it and another 99 day 7 or 8 years ago. Now I mostly just grow some beurgaurd and some purple sweet potato I got from ebay that supposed to be some Japanese variety. I like it. It's not very sweet taste more like a regular potato. I don't cure to sweeten them up either. I don't like sweet sweet potatoes.

Best part about sweet potatoes though is you can just toss them in a box in the garage and they last for years. I start my slips with my 2 year old left overs. I could probably just pull the tubers out of my slip tup and use them again next year if I wanted, but I usually cut them up in a compost pile.

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Tough question to answer. "Street Justice" is always complex, being outside the "Justice System." A lot of factors come into play.

First, how did the original trial for the murdered parents evolve? Was it Death penalty eligible? Did the prosecutor seek it? Did they get it? And was it subsequently overturned on a technicality resulting in a life sentence for that inmate? If the latter, then I'd lean more likely towards the "Street Justice" in the prison being appropriate. If the death penalty was never "on the table" for that original inmate, then I'd say the "prison justice" resulting in the OG inmate's murder was not "justice" but "vengeance."

As for the serial killer, is his death sentence justified? 'Fraid so. He made the choice to exact "street justice" for the friend of your brother, knowing what price might be paid for it. Some serial killers in his position might consider it a "price they're willing to pay" for that street justice, especially if they perceive that the "justice system" failed them, originally.

Watch this movie: The Star Chamber.. It's about a group of judges that are fed up with a lot of the adjudications they have to administer, knowing that the defendants are guilty as Hell, but are getting off. James B Sikking stars as a parent whose daughter was murdered. But the defendant was acquitted on a technicality and never faced true justice. Sikking's character decided to exact "justice" for himself and for his daughter. And yes, he was caught and faced whatever penalty he did (not sure if it was death), but he states, while in prison, "At least I did something."

As I recall, the robber/murders received life. The serial killer initially received the DP, but was either overturned or the state placed a moritoriam on executions.

The people were upset that Gaskins was put to death for murdering a murderer, but not for the killing of a pregnant lady and her two-year-old, among others. He drowned the toddler in a puddle because he didn't know what to do with him or her after murdering mom.

No one was upset the shooter's brains were splattered by the judicious use of C4.
 
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As I recall, the robber/murders received life. The serial killer initially received the DP, but was either overturned or the state placed a moritoriam on executions.

Reading the Wiki Article on Donald "Pee Wee" Gaskins, Rudolph Tyner was the man who robbed/murdered the couple (Bill & Myrtle Moon) in Florence county, SC. The Wiki article states Tyner was sentenced to death but it was put "on hold" while he went through his appeals process. Tony Cimo, the Moon's son, got tired of waiting and "took care of it" himself by hiring Gaskins. Hence Gaskins' 2nd death sentence that was, eventually, carried out by Electrocution in SC. Apparently, Gaskins did have an earlier death sentence but that was also overturned by the South Carolina Supreme Court, after which they did a plea deal which took he death penalty off the table for the first set of crimes.

I trust SC Corrections are now scanning all shoes and other items brought into the prison for C4..... :eek: 🤪

The people were upset that Gaskins was put to death for murdering a murderer, but not for the killing of a pregnant lady and her two-year-old, among others. He drowned the toddler in a puddle because he didn't know what to do with him or her after murdering mom.

Well, he *was* sentenced to death initially for that set of crimes, but he was able to cut a deal and get it reduced to life. That's what we should all be pissed about more than anything else. Getting off on "technicalities." Watch that movie, "The Star Chamber." That would be a perfect case for that group of judges. Now, I'm not saying death sentences should never be overturned, if there are valid reasons for it (i.e. DNA exoneration, bad witnesses that confess later on, proven LE/DA misconduct, etc. etc.). But not just because they're fearful and want to make another plea deal.

No one was upset the shooter's brains were splattered by the judicious use of C4.

Other than Tyner's family, if he had any. I wouldn't be upset about it, either. Is his murder "justice?" No. Absolutely not. But I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
 
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... I wouldn't be upset about it, either. Is his murder "justice?" No. Absolutely not. But I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
The older I get, the less I believe justice is exclusively served through courts.

Courts may be the domain for “Orderly Justice“, but there’s a reason Tier 1 SOF teams exist, and it’s a safe bet none of those guys are deployed as defense attorneys.

I was in a foreign country for a week when a terrorist group of you’ve heard of pulled off bombings, kidnappings and murder in the hope of gaining power and cash (I’m deliberately being vague).

It took a year before ”Surprise, Kill, Vanish”.
5 bad guys gone.
Yea, justice was served.
(If someone here was part of that justice, thank you)
 
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The older I get, the less I believe justice is exclusively served through courts.

Courts may be the domain for “Orderly Justice“, but there’s a reason Tier 1 SOF teams exist, and it’s a safe bet none of those guys are deployed as defense attorneys.

Agreed. As long as the SOF team (and whoever gave the orders) are certain that their actions are just...

I was in a foreign country for a week when a terrorist group of you’ve heard of pulled off bombings, kidnappings and murder in the hope of gaining power and cash (I’m deliberately being vague).

It took a year before ”Surprise, Kill, Vanish”.
5 bad guys gone.
Yea, justice was served.
(If someone here was part of that justice, thank you)


Thank you, indeed.
 
The older I get, the less I believe justice is exclusively served through courts.

Courts may be the domain for “Orderly Justice“, but there’s a reason Tier 1 SOF teams exist, and it’s a safe bet none of those guys are deployed as defense attorneys.

I was in a foreign country for a week when a terrorist group of you’ve heard of pulled off bombings, kidnappings and murder in the hope of gaining power and cash (I’m deliberately being vague).

It took a year before ”Surprise, Kill, Vanish”.
5 bad guys gone.
Yea, justice was served.
(If someone here was part of that justice, thank you)
On behalf of those involved, your welcome.