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thedude824

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I’m involved in a very contentious divorce. My wife and I have no children, no substantial assets, and we both make good money although she has gone out of her way to make as little as possible for the 2.5 YEARS that this has been going on. I’m prior LE with 10 years experience. I’m also well versed in law. Her scumbag attorney has gone out of his way to weaponize the system as they have no case to support unequal distribution.
So they are attacking the one thing I love. My guns. There has never been any accusations of domestic violence/threats etc. My wife moved out 2 years ago but continues to break in to steal money and firearms. They send over an “appraiser” to my home literally 26 months into this. In researching him, he has no appraiser qualifications of any kind. No FFL, no appraiser certifications, no 6-20 All lines adjuster license(which I hold). Literally nothing. Then it occurs to me that there will be no independent witness in my house with us while he wants full access to all of my firearms and related items. At this time I turn him away and contact my attorney and inform him. I contact 3 local FFLs and all of them can do an appraisal in a day. 2 days later I take my firearms to the FFL and have them appraised at my cost. I then provide this to my attorney and hers. He says he can’t get an appraisal done before court which is 45 days away?! So he complains to the judge and wants sanctions. My attorney sucks (second one). At the end of the hearing the judge orders me to relinquish all of my firearms and all related items to include presses, dies, bullets, everything in 24 hours.
I explain that this violates the 2nd and 4th amendment. He doesn’t care. I was previously ordered to disclose where my guns and assets were held and my wife subsequently stole $8000 and a firearm. Nothing was done. I spoke to command staff at 3 local law enforcement agencies and each one said that the order was illegal. So now I’m filing a complaint with the Judicial Qualifications Commission and Im going to try to beg an attorney I know to represent me. Trial is the 20th and 21st. Am I alone in thinking that this is absolutely preposterous?! The total value was like $8000… less than the value of my wife’s jewelry. In total she will owe me $166,000 and half of her pension yet all this over $8000 in firearms?! A civil rights violation?!
 
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You need a top notch attorney with lots of experience, gonna cost you though.
Have friends and clients that have been through bad divorces and that is the one thing they have all said and agree on.
Nah, courts 99% of the time find for the woman. what he needs is for her to have an 'accident'.

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You need a top notch attorney with lots of experience, gonna cost you though.
Have friends and clients that have been through bad divorces and that is the one thing they have all said and agree on.
I’ve blown through 20k on these two morons. First I fired in just a few months after she charged me $3500 and did LITERALLY nothing. I will pay… show me someone who knows WTF they’re doing. This couldn’t be more straightforward. No kids, no alimony, no substantial assets, no violence, literally nothing
 
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Her attorney lies with impunity saying “he changed the locks and she had to use keys he didn’t know she had”. I provided the text message exchange where we talk about the front door lock being funny after the hurricane and I TELL her “I made you a set of keys for all the doors, the one with the red cover opens the back door”. My attorney says nothing. Her attorney says “he lied about one of the guns on the appraisal (admitting that she stole it) as it’s in my clients possession” attorney says nothing so AGAIN I jump in and say “the appraisal lists a 44 magnum you moron, the gun your client stole is a 38”. The judge yells at me. I’m honestly in total disbelief.
Let me give you a quick glimpse of how it started… she says you need to get a separate account. 6 months of my pay went into the joint account. I had no car payment and no significant bills… so 60k. She then says she’s keeping all of it and bank says I can’t access it since I opened an individual account and apparently signed off the joint account?! So she blows 10k on another boob job… yet I’m going through this over 8k in guns?! And some reloading equipment?!
 
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I’m involved in a very contentious divorce. My wife and I have no children, no substantial assets, and we both make good money although she has gone out of her way to make as little as possible for the 2.5 YEARS that this has been going on. I’m prior LE with 10 years experience. I’m also well versed in law. Her scumbag attorney has gone out of his way to weaponize the system as they have no case to support unequal distribution.
So they are attacking the one thing I love. My guns. There has never been any accusations of domestic violence/threats etc. My wife moved out 2 years ago but continues to break in to steal money and firearms. They send over an “appraiser” to my home literally 26 months into this. In researching him, he has no appraiser qualifications of any kind. No FFL, no appraiser certifications, no 6-20 All lines adjuster license(which I hold). Literally nothing. Then it occurs to me that there will be no independent witness in my house with us while he wants full access to all of my firearms and related items. At this time I turn him away and contact my attorney and inform him. I contact 3 local FFLs and all of them can do an appraisal in a day. 2 days later I take my firearms to the FFL and have them appraised at my cost. I then provide this to my attorney and hers. He says he can’t get an appraisal done before court which is 45 days away?! So he complains to the judge and wants sanctions. My attorney sucks (second one). At the end of the hearing the judge orders me to relinquish all of my firearms and all related items to include presses, dies, bullets, everything in 24 hours.
I explain that this violates the 2nd and 4th amendment. He doesn’t care. I was previously ordered to disclose where my guns and assets were held and my wife subsequently stole $8000 and a firearm. Nothing was done. I spoke to command staff at 3 local law enforcement agencies and each one said that the order was illegal. So now I’m filing a complaint with the Judicial Qualifications Commission and Im going to try to beg an attorney I know to represent me. Trial is the 20th and 21st. Am I alone in thinking that this is absolutely preposterous?! The total value was like $8000… less than the value of my wife’s jewelry. In total she will owe me $166,000 and half of her pension yet all this over $8000 in firearms?! A civil rights violation?!
People don’t think divorce be like it do. Logic and accountability are the first to go, especially if she leaves without abuse.
 
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I think of judges and attorneys (especially family law) as literally the most useless corrupt and grossly incompetent group in this country. They can’t fix a motor, fix pluming, treat a medical condition, they are typically beta-male types, I mean what skill outside of laws made by other lawyers which are given weight because of the (mostly) good strong men and women in enforcement.
A police officer violates your civil rights and you make close to 7 figures, he goes to prison and is bankrupted. A judge does it and they can’t be sued civilly nor can they face criminal prosecution in 99.99% of cases. Anyone see anything wrong with that?? Yet that person decides where all of the money you have and will earn goes?!
 
Hire a P.I. yet to see who else she'd been banging and for how long prior to filing for the divorce?
Couldn’t care less. This divorce has been going on for more than 2.5 years. I just want to be done and receive what I’m owed under state statute.
Trial is supposed to be 10/20/25, but this corrupt decrepit loon may try to throw me in jail or fine me thousands of dollars before then
 
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How come you haven't changed the code on the safe or the front door? 2.5 years have gone by??
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WTF? Should have been done day one. All those guns and gold should have disappeared on day one. And opening a joint account in the middle of a divorce? Holy crap that was stoooopid on another level.
Sounds like the only thing you did right was to not have any fuck trophies with this woman.
 
Guns should have disappeared; locks should have been changed; safe should have been moved/relocated/at the minimum the code should have been changed!

Hard lessons learned.

Yep, this is a case study in what NOT to do. I feel sorry for the OP. However for anybody reading this; stuff that is valuable to you needs to disappear on day one to a trusted friend. If she knows about said stuff, then it simply needs to disappear to a trusted friend with a bill of sale for pennies on the dollar. If she didn't take pictures yet, back date that bill of sale to before the split.

For several years back when I was in J-Ville NC, my safe was full of guns that belonged to friends... and then in 2011 I had a friend return the favor when it was my turn for the divorce.
 
Women are crazy and the judicial system appears to be broken. I pray you figure out a way to get someone "of weight" to get involved on your behalf.

Based on how Machiavellian she is, assume she's watching this thread.

They are crazy, but this sort of behavior isnt crazy, its flat out evil.
 
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Let me lead with- I wish this wasn't happening to you. Like you I'm sure, I've seen this happen to a number of good men, and it's not right. Attorneys are garbage, they profit from your pain while doing the minimum, collecting the maximum (from you), and getting shitty results while telling you "it's a good compromise."

That being said, "So they are attacking the one thing I love. My guns." -You've identified what's going on here. Don't play the game.
"In total she will owe me $166,000 and half of her pension yet all this over $8000 in firearms?" If this looks like it will really materialize, screw the $8,000 in gun stuff. It's not worth it. As dear as they are, they are just things. You can get more, nicer, newer, and devoid of the baggage that stems from your ex.

Do whatever the hell you can to get free! Stuff is not worth your mental health and happiness.
Avoid the bottle. Avoid conflict. Avoid letting it leach into your day job, and let nothing happen that could endanger your career as this final chapter plays out. Say, "yes dear" a few more times, regain your freedom and happiness. Don't get immediately involved with the next piece of ace that comes around. Buy some more guns and shit. Date some hot, younger girls, enjoy a re-boot at life.

Good luck and God speed, sir.
 
Let me lead with- I wish this wasn't happening to you. Like you I'm sure, I've seen this happen to a number of good men, and it's not right. Attorneys are garbage, they profit from your pain while doing the minimum, collecting the maximum (from you), and getting shitty results while telling you "it's a good compromise."

That being said, "So they are attacking the one thing I love. My guns." -You've identified what's going on here. Don't play the game.
"In total she will owe me $166,000 and half of her pension yet all this over $8000 in firearms?" If this looks like it will really materialize, screw the $8,000 in gun stuff. It's not worth it. As dear as they are, they are just things. You can get more, nicer, newer, and devoid of the baggage that stems from your ex.

Do whatever the hell you can to get free! Stuff is not worth your mental health and happiness.
Avoid the bottle. Avoid conflict. Avoid letting it leach into your day job, and let nothing happen that could endanger your career as this final chapter plays out. Say, "yes dear" a few more times, regain your freedom and happiness. Don't get immediately involved with the next piece of ace that comes around. Buy some more guns and shit. Date some hot, younger girls, enjoy a re-boot at life.

Good luck and God speed, sir.
Good advice, especially about the mental health.

I'll ad, as soon as its final, find a young, hot, bimbo, even if you have to rent her for an evening, and parade her in front of the ex at some public event that all her friends will be attending. It will absolutely destroy her self esteem. It's a huge, perfectly legal,
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Good advice, especially about the mental health.

I'll ad, as soon as its final, find a young, hot, bimbo, even if you have to rent her for an evening, and parade her in front of the ex at some public event that all her friends will be attending. It will absolutely destroy her self esteem. It's a huge, perfectly legal, View attachment 8785721
Actually, don’t do this

Avoid women all together

Give them no ammunition

If she’s fighting this bad, don’t give her any ammo to now add adultery to the list of things that’s making the divorce drag out. While it may not be true, is it worth even more slander and attorney fees?
 
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I took Maggot to mean after all the dust settles and the ink on the divorce was dry...
But yeah, TBC, sadly, you're not wrong.
A breeze through this thread


reveals how many female "salvage titles" are out there, and how many modern women look at men only as therapist-bankers and heavy-object movers. Staying the hell away from them will probably bring the most peace. Or, just give them the @Bigfatcock treatment.

But...renting one, andusing her to rub it in the ex's face may be rewarding too. When the ink is dry.

"Revenge is a dish best served with tits in your face" -Kahn :ROFLMAO:
 
I hate to say it because it is, in fact, an injustice but I agree with @WaltHer

Yeah, it's $8k in stuff but how much more has been spent in this? So, I agree, let her have it with a binding contract or declaration that this is the last.

Then move to a new place, sell the house, cut as many if not all ties with her has possible. Rebuild. That is what is going to happen, anyway.

When my brother was divorcing his first wife (in New Hampshire,) it was contentious. So, specifically asked the state to garnish his wages for child support. She was the kind of person who would have claimed that he did not pay and get him jailed. With the state doing it, she could not make that claim. There is a permanent government record of payments made. And she was physical. By that time, my brother already had his black belt in Kenpo Karate. She was striking him but he did not fight back, though he easily could have knocked her out. This resulted in her getting arrested for domestic violence. But she still had custody of the child they had. He kept petitioning and finally got full custody.

Now, his daughter is grown with a son of her own.

Anyway, your situation reminds me of the adage that it is best to get out of a burning building. If you stay in there trying rescue an item, it can cost you your life. How many have survived by narrow escape because they were able to jettison baggage, etcetera, at a moment's notice and jump when David Lee Roth said, "Might as well Jump"?

 
bitches be crazy an the law is always on their side
think outside the box and play dirty

if all your stuff is missing (stolen maybe?) then she can't get it can she?

if you withdraw all your money in cash and gamble it away trying to get over the pain of the divorce, well its gone and she can't get at it

There are reasons all your money and stuff isn't in your possession anymore....
 
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Also, in Florida, you are allowed to sell guns to help pay attorney fees. And they can’t try to get that money out of you. It’s called the Standing Family Law order.

You could always sell your guns to a buddy to “help pay attorney fees”
This is the way. Pissing up a rope over $8k in guns is stupid, sell that shit to folks who will let you buy them right back, or just go buy even newer betterer awesomer guns. She "thinks" she got under your skin, signs the fucking papers and you're done. Day after, buy the shit right the fuck back, block her number, move to another town (or across the country is even better), live an awesome life with this drama in your rearview mirror.

Two and a half years, geez.... Mine went from decision to final in four months flat, with a house, two kids, three vehicles and $20k credit card debt in the mix. And I was in Afghanistan for all but 10 days of that time over the holidays.

My dad's best advice to me when I started the divorce march: "Come to agreement on everything before you go to court, or the judge will punish both of you for wasting their time." I bought my way out and it was worth every last penny.