Gunsmithing Stiller M700 Short DBM install/review

[LRI]

Big thanks to Russ and Jerry this morning for the help with installing their DBM. Let it be know they are thus far the ONLY vendor I've encountered to actually take the time and share REAL dimensions for fitting these up.

What a remarkable idea. . .

Russ spent about 10 minutes on the phone with me going over the locations, radius points, etc on the new floor metal they are offering. As he talked I scribbled out a sketch in sharpie marker on my work bench.

Aside from minor cutter comp/Z depth adjustments the piece fell right into the stock.

I cannot express how nice this is. Typically it's half a day wasted dickering with radius gauges, calipers, a 4x4 post, and editing code until the part fits right.

First time out of the gate this one fell right into place, the inlet is a slip fit, and the magazine height is spot on.

Again, thanks Russ/Jerry.

For those interested and to fellow smiths, here's the digits to drive code/tool paths off of. These are all nominal dimensions. You'll need to comp your tools accordingly. Russ stated he'll eventually update their site with a PDF doc that'll also cover the values. For now, hope this helps.



C.

 

[300sniper]

Re: Stiller M700 Short DBM install/review

one would think that manufacturers would be a little more willing to share dimensioned inlet drawings or cad files. i don't think anyone is going to go out and duplicate their bottom metal based on the inlet dimension alone. i'm glad to hear that stiller was willing to share the information.

 

[jbell]

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That is a sign of great character, wish it was more common. It is also very cool to recognize their help on an open forum. My hats off to both parties.

 

[LRI]

Re: Stiller M700 Short DBM install/review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one would think that manufacturers would be a little more willing to share dimensioned inlet drawings or cad files. i don't think anyone is going to go out and duplicate their bottom metal based on the inlet dimension alone. i'm glad to hear that stiller was willing to share the information. </div></div>


No kidding. I mean if I'm going to plagiarize the stuff, I have the part in my hand. (duh!)

 

[ctressler]

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I've also experienced great customer service with Stiller, Russ in particular.

 

[Ratbert]

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IIRC, when Seekins first started shipping their DBM they included a measured drawing with it. Do they not any more?

I've wondered if a "measured drawings" sub-forum would gain any traction here.

 

[Martin55]

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i don't think anyone is going to go out and duplicate their bottom metal based on the inlet dimension alone.

 

[powderBurnz]

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I thought the very first M5 I got had measurements on it too. The one I got this week did not, just the outline.

 

[Tantrum]

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I recievd a diagram and an IGS file for my BlackOps DBM. I don't have a way to use the IGS file, but I think it would be useful for those who can. I was told that Manners has the file for inletting thier stocks.

 

[GasLight]

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maybe most DBM makers think the inlet dimensions are their 'secret sauce' Hahaha

 

[mcfred]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">maybe most DBM makers think the inlet dimensions are their 'secret sauce' Hahaha

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When I first got into this hobby, I tried asking remington for the scope base/hole dimensions for a rifle I bought new that didn't come with sights or scope bases. They acted like I was trying to get the plans for a nuclear sub. I guess you're not supposed to have sights on them, lol.

 

[tmshot]

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Thanks for posting this. I was wondering how much modification was needed for this system. Looks like a manners inlet for standard BDL will only need a little sanding to make it work.

 

[lw8]

Re: Stiller M700 Short DBM install/review

Heck, I have asked suppressor companies for the thread specs to get their own mounts installed on my rifle and been denied...as in I can't thread the barrel to install the mount that is required to mount the can.

Makes no sense to me...