Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
How come LE K9's are treated as actual officers; and a Civilian's dog is just a dog?
How come LE K9's are treated as actual officers; and a Civilian's dog is just a dog?
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Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How come LE K9's are treated as actual officers; and a Civilian's dog is just a dog?</div></div>
AMEN!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How come LE K9's are treated as actual officers; and a Civilian's dog is just a dog?</div></div>
AMEN!
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck </div></div>
Actually you possibly can. Supposedly WTC was insured against the act of terrorism? I may be going on a stretch but I believe that is illegal!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck </div></div>
Actually you possibly can. Supposedly WTC was insured against the act of terrorism? I may be going on a stretch but I believe that is illegal!
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
shoot my dog and i would make that cops life a living hell lots of things you can do that are very leagle and some that are not give me time and i would make him leave his job as a cop
shoot my dog and i would make that cops life a living hell lots of things you can do that are very leagle and some that are not give me time and i would make him leave his job as a cop
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
This cop made Michael Vick proud.
This cop made Michael Vick proud.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.
So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
I would bet it just boils down to being afraid of dogs. I had some Mexican fellas working for me in N. Dallas that went apeshit trying to get far far away from my English Bulldog.. Amazing sight, and lucky it wasn't my Lab cause I think she might be a little racist...
Adrenaline does weird things, this would fall into that category when you have blood pumping and throw a fear into the equation.
Lotta needless cop bashing in the thread and it should be more individual bashing on the offending officer.
I would bet it just boils down to being afraid of dogs. I had some Mexican fellas working for me in N. Dallas that went apeshit trying to get far far away from my English Bulldog.. Amazing sight, and lucky it wasn't my Lab cause I think she might be a little racist...
Adrenaline does weird things, this would fall into that category when you have blood pumping and throw a fear into the equation.
Lotta needless cop bashing in the thread and it should be more individual bashing on the offending officer.
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I don't have an axe to grind with the police, but do have a question related to this story.
I thought that you needed a warrant or justifiable cause to set foot on private property.
In this case it seems like the police dispatcher was negligent and the officer was on private property accidentally.
How is trespassing by police departments judged in the US and Texas?
I don't have an axe to grind with the police, but do have a question related to this story.
I thought that you needed a warrant or justifiable cause to set foot on private property.
In this case it seems like the police dispatcher was negligent and the officer was on private property accidentally.
How is trespassing by police departments judged in the US and Texas?
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
Dispatcher sent the LEO to the exact address the person who phoned the call in told them...can't really blame the dispatcher for a mistaken/negligent/stupid caller.
Dispatcher sent the LEO to the exact address the person who phoned the call in told them...can't really blame the dispatcher for a mistaken/negligent/stupid caller.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't have an axe to grind with the police, but do have a question related to this story.
I thought that you needed a warrant or justifiable cause to set foot on private property.
In this case it seems like the police dispatcher was negligent and the officer was on private property accidentally.
How is trespassing by police departments judged in the US and Texas? </div></div>
He had justifiable cause from the call into dispatch.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't have an axe to grind with the police, but do have a question related to this story.
I thought that you needed a warrant or justifiable cause to set foot on private property.
In this case it seems like the police dispatcher was negligent and the officer was on private property accidentally.
How is trespassing by police departments judged in the US and Texas? </div></div>
He had justifiable cause from the call into dispatch.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
I keep seeing people blaming the dispatcher here. Unless there is a wealth of information I haven't seen, the dispatcher sent the cop to the address that was reported... In other words, the address the dispatcher gave the officer was not the dispatcher's error- it was the error of whoever made the report.
This doesn't change the officer's responsibility to determine the call was factual and accurate. It also doesn't mean the officer was trespassing as there was reason to believe as per the call that there was a domestic dispute there. Of course, once the determination is made that the address given was incorrect, the officer has no further business on the private property and can be asked/told to leave.
In this is an example of where I feel I treat these situations fairly. Don't burdon the officer with fault that is not his, nor the dispatcher with fault that is not his/hers. His arrival at this residence is a simple accident by the person making the report. The problem is in the way the officer chose to make contact, skipping the vital step of verifying the facts of the report. But he certainly was not trespassing. And at the same time, I do see what someone would mean in saying he was; the call gave the wrong address, there was nothing going on and thus his presence was incorrect. But that does not equal trespassing. If, having determined the address he was at was not the correct address, he decided to stay, search the property and have a look in the house, then yes that argument would hold water. But that does not appear to be the case
After having shot my dog however, I would have very likely told the officer he can await at his car, in the street, or anywhere other than my property while a different officer takes care of the report and paperwork.
I keep seeing people blaming the dispatcher here. Unless there is a wealth of information I haven't seen, the dispatcher sent the cop to the address that was reported... In other words, the address the dispatcher gave the officer was not the dispatcher's error- it was the error of whoever made the report.
This doesn't change the officer's responsibility to determine the call was factual and accurate. It also doesn't mean the officer was trespassing as there was reason to believe as per the call that there was a domestic dispute there. Of course, once the determination is made that the address given was incorrect, the officer has no further business on the private property and can be asked/told to leave.
In this is an example of where I feel I treat these situations fairly. Don't burdon the officer with fault that is not his, nor the dispatcher with fault that is not his/hers. His arrival at this residence is a simple accident by the person making the report. The problem is in the way the officer chose to make contact, skipping the vital step of verifying the facts of the report. But he certainly was not trespassing. And at the same time, I do see what someone would mean in saying he was; the call gave the wrong address, there was nothing going on and thus his presence was incorrect. But that does not equal trespassing. If, having determined the address he was at was not the correct address, he decided to stay, search the property and have a look in the house, then yes that argument would hold water. But that does not appear to be the case
After having shot my dog however, I would have very likely told the officer he can await at his car, in the street, or anywhere other than my property while a different officer takes care of the report and paperwork.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand. </div></div>
I'm glad you find humor in a tragedy that has affected someone who isn't a member of your sacred brotherhood. Shame on you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand. </div></div>
I'm glad you find humor in a tragedy that has affected someone who isn't a member of your sacred brotherhood. Shame on you.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 17pt">mistake</span></span>.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck </div></div>
Oh. I thought we were talking about mistakes, not committing crimes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 17pt">mistake</span></span>.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
</div></div>
Sounds great to me. I'll be taking out an insurance policy since no one on this planet is perfect and unable to make a mistake. The insurance will work similar to malpractice insurance for a surgeon so I'll take their salary as well. </div></div>
One small problem - one can not insure for acts that are illegal.
The end of the Just Us system.
Good luck </div></div>
Oh. I thought we were talking about mistakes, not committing crimes.
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The cop fucked up plain and simple. A blue healer? get real who the hell is afraid of a blue healer.
I was a Sheriffs Deputy, I was only gravely concerned with getting bit one time, I got out of that sistuation with-out shooting the dog, or being bit.
Give me a brake, being in law enforcement means taking risks, just like an electrician, mailman, construction worker, and many other profesions. Job hazards are every where, that doesen't mean we shoot the hazard.
So you who are compaining about your saftey, and wanting to go home at night with-out being spit on and called a pig, Your the same type that would watch an accident victim bleed to death because, heaven forbids, you get some ones blood on you. Or watch a kid drown after he fell thru the ice because you could get hpothermia if you attempt a rescue.
You mantality sucks, go be a theft control agent at Macys. Minimize your risk, find a new line of work because your not cut out to Protect and Serve.
The cop fucked up plain and simple. A blue healer? get real who the hell is afraid of a blue healer.
I was a Sheriffs Deputy, I was only gravely concerned with getting bit one time, I got out of that sistuation with-out shooting the dog, or being bit.
Give me a brake, being in law enforcement means taking risks, just like an electrician, mailman, construction worker, and many other profesions. Job hazards are every where, that doesen't mean we shoot the hazard.
So you who are compaining about your saftey, and wanting to go home at night with-out being spit on and called a pig, Your the same type that would watch an accident victim bleed to death because, heaven forbids, you get some ones blood on you. Or watch a kid drown after he fell thru the ice because you could get hpothermia if you attempt a rescue.
You mantality sucks, go be a theft control agent at Macys. Minimize your risk, find a new line of work because your not cut out to Protect and Serve.
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If someone came to my house acting aggressively I would expect my dogs to react, just like someone breaking in my house would likely get shot. Doesn't matter if they were wearing a uniform or not. I am not a criminal and don't expect to be treated like one regardless if someone gave the dispatcher my address.
I respect LEO and have several I would call friends, but to act with force is to receive force. If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers. If you come on my property with a firearm drawn for no reason than don't be surprised when you meet me with firearm drawn in a legitimate defense to mine and my family's safety, or a pissed off dog doing its job.
Today anything you do will likely become public, so think first.
If someone came to my house acting aggressively I would expect my dogs to react, just like someone breaking in my house would likely get shot. Doesn't matter if they were wearing a uniform or not. I am not a criminal and don't expect to be treated like one regardless if someone gave the dispatcher my address.
I respect LEO and have several I would call friends, but to act with force is to receive force. If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers. If you come on my property with a firearm drawn for no reason than don't be surprised when you meet me with firearm drawn in a legitimate defense to mine and my family's safety, or a pissed off dog doing its job.
Today anything you do will likely become public, so think first.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers.</div></div>
Probably not.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers.</div></div>
Probably not.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers.</div></div>
Probably not.
</div></div>Because of the fatal gunshot wound(s) you would receive.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If a K-9 came rushing at me and I shot it in "self defense" I would be put on a stand to be judged by my peers.</div></div>
Probably not.
</div></div>Because of the fatal gunshot wound(s) you would receive.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In general this is indicative of the core issues with LE in America - LE is the only group lawfully acting as an enforcement arm. They are tax payer funded and there is no alternative for the taxpayer.
The situation is not much different if the wrong address were given for a raid on the home. And Lord help those that would treat such errant LE as any other thug coming through the door announcing 'Police, open up' the half second before the ram hit the door. Even if you fended off the initial wave and fought your way to a stand still, your odds of living through the event would be slim, and your odds of not going to jail as a cop killer would be minimal at best.
Personally I would like to see two changes:
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
Good luck
</div></div>
+ 1 for crippling the unions that are crippling the country.
its so utterly out of hand at this point, these officers must be held accountable and fired for fuck ups like this, no pension, no protection from corrupt unions. He should be working at the mall.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In general this is indicative of the core issues with LE in America - LE is the only group lawfully acting as an enforcement arm. They are tax payer funded and there is no alternative for the taxpayer.
The situation is not much different if the wrong address were given for a raid on the home. And Lord help those that would treat such errant LE as any other thug coming through the door announcing 'Police, open up' the half second before the ram hit the door. Even if you fended off the initial wave and fought your way to a stand still, your odds of living through the event would be slim, and your odds of not going to jail as a cop killer would be minimal at best.
Personally I would like to see two changes:
A) Individuals have zero immunity and zero liability protection in the event of a mistake.
B) Open up the job of enforcement to bid from private firms that can be hired and fired by the public at will. If the public does not like the service or the caliber of employees, policies and or procedures, they can terminate the firm without cause and replace them. As a side benefit - this would help to cripple unions in America.
Good luck
</div></div>
+ 1 for crippling the unions that are crippling the country.
its so utterly out of hand at this point, these officers must be held accountable and fired for fuck ups like this, no pension, no protection from corrupt unions. He should be working at the mall.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.</div></div>
Again, more US and THEM coming from LE.
Police officers are civilians. They work for the citizens who have ALLOWED them to carry a badge and gun to "protect and serve".
The decisions they make on the job, REQUIRES good judgement.
This was obviously a terrible decision, based on bad judgement.
This officer should NEVER be allowed to carry a firearm again.
He should be placed in admin and left there, or better yet, fired and sued by homeowner, pension taken away.
Furthermore, dont give me the BS of stress.
You can quit anytime you feel overstressed, you are NOT in the military.
And if THAT dog seems threatening enough to shoot from your POV, then buddy, you need to find a nice slow paced mall security job.
This is not even debatable by a rational clear thinking human.
The cop was wrong and must be held accountable.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.</div></div>
Again, more US and THEM coming from LE.
Police officers are civilians. They work for the citizens who have ALLOWED them to carry a badge and gun to "protect and serve".
The decisions they make on the job, REQUIRES good judgement.
This was obviously a terrible decision, based on bad judgement.
This officer should NEVER be allowed to carry a firearm again.
He should be placed in admin and left there, or better yet, fired and sued by homeowner, pension taken away.
Furthermore, dont give me the BS of stress.
You can quit anytime you feel overstressed, you are NOT in the military.
And if THAT dog seems threatening enough to shoot from your POV, then buddy, you need to find a nice slow paced mall security job.
This is not even debatable by a rational clear thinking human.
The cop was wrong and must be held accountable.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beretta682</div><div class="ubbcode-body">shoot my dog and i would make that cops life a living hell lots of things you can do that are very leagle and some that are not give me time and i would make him leave his job as a cop</div></div>
First step: Learn how to use the goddamn spellcheck.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beretta682</div><div class="ubbcode-body">shoot my dog and i would make that cops life a living hell lots of things you can do that are very leagle and some that are not give me time and i would make him leave his job as a cop</div></div>
First step: Learn how to use the goddamn spellcheck.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.</div></div>
Again, more US and THEM coming from LE.
Police officers are civilians. They work for the citizens who have ALLOWED them to carry a badge and gun to "protect and serve".
The decisions they make on the job, REQUIRES good judgement.
This was obviously a terrible decision, based on bad judgement.
This officer should NEVER be allowed to carry a firearm again.
He should be placed in admin and left there, or better yet, fired and sued by homeowner, pension taken away.
Furthermore, dont give me the BS of stress.
You can quit anytime you feel overstressed, you are NOT in the military.
And if THAT dog seems threatening enough to shoot from your POV, then buddy, you need to find a nice slow paced mall security job.
This is not even debatable by a rational clear thinking human.
The cop was wrong and must be held accountable.
</div></div>
You are off of your meds again?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand.</div></div>
Again, more US and THEM coming from LE.
Police officers are civilians. They work for the citizens who have ALLOWED them to carry a badge and gun to "protect and serve".
The decisions they make on the job, REQUIRES good judgement.
This was obviously a terrible decision, based on bad judgement.
This officer should NEVER be allowed to carry a firearm again.
He should be placed in admin and left there, or better yet, fired and sued by homeowner, pension taken away.
Furthermore, dont give me the BS of stress.
You can quit anytime you feel overstressed, you are NOT in the military.
And if THAT dog seems threatening enough to shoot from your POV, then buddy, you need to find a nice slow paced mall security job.
This is not even debatable by a rational clear thinking human.
The cop was wrong and must be held accountable.
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You are off of your meds again?
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim See</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cop fucked up plain and simple. A blue healer? get real who the hell is afraid of a blue healer.
I was a Sheriffs Deputy, I was only gravely concerned with getting bit one time, I got out of that sistuation with-out shooting the dog, or being bit.
Give me a brake, being in law enforcement means taking risks, just like an electrician, mailman, construction worker, and many other profesions. Job hazards are every where, that doesen't mean we shoot the hazard.
So you who are compaining about your saftey, and wanting to go home at night with-out being spit on and called a pig, Your the same type that would watch an accident victim bleed to death because, heaven forbids, you get some ones blood on you. Or watch a kid drown after he fell thru the ice because you could get hpothermia if you attempt a rescue.
You mantality sucks, go be a theft control agent at Macys. Minimize your risk, find a new line of work because your not cut out to Protect and Serve. </div></div>
Meh. I have capped some animals in my time on. Should have put them up and not been a shitbag. The difference is, i was at the correct address.
I agree w/ the risk taking however. That was spot on.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim See</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cop fucked up plain and simple. A blue healer? get real who the hell is afraid of a blue healer.
I was a Sheriffs Deputy, I was only gravely concerned with getting bit one time, I got out of that sistuation with-out shooting the dog, or being bit.
Give me a brake, being in law enforcement means taking risks, just like an electrician, mailman, construction worker, and many other profesions. Job hazards are every where, that doesen't mean we shoot the hazard.
So you who are compaining about your saftey, and wanting to go home at night with-out being spit on and called a pig, Your the same type that would watch an accident victim bleed to death because, heaven forbids, you get some ones blood on you. Or watch a kid drown after he fell thru the ice because you could get hpothermia if you attempt a rescue.
You mantality sucks, go be a theft control agent at Macys. Minimize your risk, find a new line of work because your not cut out to Protect and Serve. </div></div>
Meh. I have capped some animals in my time on. Should have put them up and not been a shitbag. The difference is, i was at the correct address.
I agree w/ the risk taking however. That was spot on.
Re: Officer kills dog after going to the wrong address
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand. </div></div>
Understand what?
That this knucklehead is a poster child for "Barney Fife"?
Please explain.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greyshirts</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after reading this entire thread, and laughing almost non-stop. All I can say is WOW, really? Look, I'm a dog lover. I have 4 of my own. I'm also a cop, and deal with dogs, a lot. I can't believe ya'll are dragging this out. Those of you that are cops that keep posting stuff, just stop. They will never understand. </div></div>
Understand what?
That this knucklehead is a poster child for "Barney Fife"?
Please explain.
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