XLR Chassis Stock

[nozzle13]

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It was the 5-20x50 with seekins rings, quick throw lever, and 6x fixed.

The 6x is in a LaRue SPR mount that will go on the G3k, along with a Magpul stock. The balance is awesome with the 12.5" barrel, makes it feel like a bullpup offhand. So far surplus has been running 23-2400 fps. The flash hider throws off sum of the harmonics and opens up the groups though, got to get it SBR'ed soon.

That's my 0-300yrd gun, now just waiting on my XLR chassis for the 300+ gun. My savage is shooting sub MOA @ 300 with Barnes 175 Match burners with XBR powder @ 2600fps, I've only shot at 600 once do to having to have another qualified person on the range to shoot the big range. I can shoot out to 300 all day by myself.

Getting divorced Tuesday though, luckily it's been pretty civil so far, but money is way tight so more money on rings is not a good thing. I emailed Kyle about getting the folding stock and a magazine, but he hasn't emailed me back. I figured those are last minute options so I'm not to worried about that though.

Also anyone know if the "Accurate Mags" Brownelles sells will work, there quite a bit cheaper than the Accuracy Int ones. About 20$ from what I remember.

 

[Ryan327]

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Have heard that the 5-20 needs the extra high rings...never measured it all to be sure though.

I know i tried to see if it would work on mine with seekins high rings and the bell wouldn't clear the handguard w/ the 20moa base.

 

[RotARy15]

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With my setup the Seekins AR-High is the safest bet. Especially if you want to use the scope covers. There is about .3 inch clearance from scope cap to the tube.

 

[nozzle13]

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What about the mags? Will these work: Stock #:100-008-954WB
Accurate Mag at Brownelles

 

[RotARy15]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: looty24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the mags? Will these work: Stock #:100-008-954WB
Accurate Mag at Brownelles </div></div>

They are designed to work in anything that an AI mag would. I have 2 of those on the way for my XLR. I originally bought 2 Alpha type 2's but they are not cooperating. Lots of every kind of problem that a mag could possibly have.

I'm hoping that the Accurate Mags work. I'll let you know on Thursday.

 

[Apache]

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Why not just spend the extra 3 bucks and get an AICS 10 rounder?

I have an early Alpha type 1 that, granted, gets a little stiff inside the mag well with 10 rounds in it, but its smaller profile definitely makes it more appealing.

 

[RotARy15]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Apache</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not just spend the extra 3 bucks and get an AICS 10 rounder?

I have an early Alpha type 1 that, granted, gets a little stiff inside the mag well with 10 rounds in it, but its smaller profile definitely makes it more appealing. </div></div>

Have a load that measures 2.930. I need the extra space.

 

[Gman021]

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Will these work in the XLR?

http://www.google.com/products/cata...a=X&ei=vfvgT9bTF8Xl0QHqxaCRDg&ved=0CGgQ8wIwBA

I figured they would, I just want to be positive they work in something besides the AW.

 

[nozzle13]

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All right, I got a call from Kyle on Tuesday!! Woohoo. Well he said it was on to Anodizing, and should ship out this week. Said they were out of magazines, so I just hit up Brownells. Can't wait.
Took my little girl to watch some of the local F class match, to see what I'll be in for. She loves big "booms", now I'm excited. I'll have to build her one in .223. She's 4.
Think I'll go to the range and shoot the Sniper's Hide Dot challenge, to see how I'm doing and celebrate. Dragging my feet though, cause it's like 200 degrees outside right now. Lot's O water.

 

[Riksors]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: looty24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All right, I got a call from Kyle on Tuesday!! Woohoo. Well he said it was on to Anodizing, and should ship out this week. Said they were out of magazines, so I just hit up Brownells. Can't wait.
Took my little girl to watch some of the local F class match, to see what I'll be in for. She loves big "booms", now I'm excited. I'll have to build her one in .223. She's 4.
Think I'll go to the range and shoot the Sniper's Hide Dot challenge, to see how I'm doing and celebrate. Dragging my feet though, cause it's like 200 degrees outside right now. Lot's O water. </div></div>

When did you order your chassis? Can't wait to get mine.

 

[nozzle13]

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April 10th, was the day I got my invoice.

 

[Gman021]

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I had to get my mags from brownelles too. My chassis shipped at Friday but I have to wait 9 days for it to get to me apparently. I ordered last week of March.

 

[MarinePMI]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: looty24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">April 10th, was the day I got my invoice. </div></div>

Hmmm...ordered mine on the 9th...no phone call yet...

 

[nvr2old]

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Invoice date 4/3... so I gotta be getting close (he said hopefully ;-)

Well, no matter what... it'll be worth the wait! but that doesn't make the waiting any easier.

EDIT: woohoo... chassis will ship today.

 

[MarinePMI]

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Anyone heard from Kyle lately? Left voice messages and e-mail and haven't heard anything back in a few days. I know half of Colorado is on fire, but didn't think the fires were that far west (maybe causing a delay?), or if there is delay due to not having magazines in stock to ship with the orders...

 

[Gman021]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MarinePMI</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone heard from Kyle lately? Left voice messages and e-mail and haven't heard anything back in a few days. I know half of Colorado is on fire, but didn't think the fires were that far west (maybe causing a delay?), or if there is delay due to not having magazines in stock to ship with the orders...

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I didn't even think of that. Maybe that's why my rifle has been sitting in Commerce city for the past 5 days.

 

[cavemanmoore]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gman021</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't even think of that. Maybe that's why my rifle has been sitting in Commerce city for the past 5 days. </div></div>

My company moves a lot of freight. We are struggling to get anything in or out of Colorado.

 

[MarinePMI]

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LOL! Nevermind.

15 seconds after hitting the "submit" button, the phone rang with Kyle on the other end. He said they're about 3 1/2 hrs form the fires, so all they have right now is a bit of smoke in the area. Now whether UPS is jacked up in Denver is another story... (looks like CMM beat me to the punch on this point, must have been posting at the same time)

Either way, looks like my stock is on its way, and as always, Kyle was very courteous and professional, with top notch service!

May be ordering another one of these in the not too distant future...

 

[blksno]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RotARy15</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: looty24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the mags? Will these work: Stock #:100-008-954WB
Accurate Mag at Brownelles </div></div>

They are designed to work in anything that an AI mag would. I have 2 of those on the way for my XLR. I originally bought 2 Alpha type 2's but they are not cooperating. Lots of every kind of problem that a mag could possibly have.

I'm hoping that the Accurate Mags work. I'll let you know on Thursday. </div></div>

How bout that Long Action, Double Stack, Single Feed Accurate Mag? That's the one I've got my eyes on.

 

[ezed]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: looty24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dangit RotARy, that's my rifle!!! I hope he didn't send you mine!LOL I'm at week 10 today. I have basically the same setup as you, waiting on my stock.

I've been wondering about rings though. I got the christmas deal on the SWFA, so I'm guessing now, that the rings Seekins Mids I think,are what came with it, won't fit with a 20moa rail?

Just hoping I get my call soon. I want to shoot my first Ftr Match in two weeks, and would love to use the chassis. Kyle hasn't answered my email yet though.

On the bright side my G3k is in!!! [img:center]

[/img] Just waiting on her big sister now... </div></div>


NICE forearm on that K...who makes it and I hope they make one for a 93!

 

[knockemdown]

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Got the call yesterday from Kyle, and a tracking # shortly thereafter. Right on schedule...

 

[nvr2old]

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Gman021, Hopefully, things are clearing up in CO. Mine left commerce city and should be delivered to my workplace today (can you say kid on Christmas morning lol)

MarinePMI, my (limited) experience with Kyle is it may take several days to hear, but he has NEVER failed to respond. Mags are supposed to arrive sometime next week and Kyle offered to ship chassis now and mags when they arrive... obviously I took him up on the offer ;-)

Obviously, I will be building tonight and at the range tomorrow!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gman021</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MarinePMI</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone heard from Kyle lately? Left voice messages and e-mail and haven't heard anything back in a few days. I know half of Colorado is on fire, but didn't think the fires were that far west (maybe causing a delay?), or if there is delay due to not having magazines in stock to ship with the orders...

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I didn't even think of that. Maybe that's why my rifle has been sitting in Commerce city for the past 5 days.</div></div>

 

[Gman021]

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Right after I posted Kyle PM'ed me and called UPS to see what was going on. I guess my tracking number was really screwed up, but it's on schedule.

Now this stupid weekend needs to go by so Monday can come.

 

[nozzle13]

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Alright I got a call from Kyle yesterday, stock is in the mail, now if I can just hold out to the 5th!!! Found the load yesterday that my rifle loves. Guess its time to load up in mass.

 

[TRAAV]

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Does any one know what height 34mm (for a HDMR) seekins rings would work with the evolution chassis? If anyone has any experience with this set up please PM me.
Thanks

 

[QuiggyB]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DREMEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does any one know what height 34mm (for a HDMR) seekins rings would work with the evolution chassis? If anyone has any experience with this set up please PM me.
Thanks </div></div>

The answer is going to depend on the action and rail you have. Actions have different diameters and rails sit above them at different heights. All this shifts the point you are starting from up or down by as much as .25".

if you happen to know your action diameter, height the rail site above the action and the actual objective diameter of the scope (with caps if thats what you want to use) then I can tell you a number that is pretty close.

 

[TRAAV]

Re: XLR Chassis Stock

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: QuiggyB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DREMEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does any one know what height 34mm (for a HDMR) seekins rings would work with the evolution chassis? If anyone has any experience with this set up please PM me.
Thanks </div></div>

The answer is going to depend on the action and rail you have. Actions have different diameters and rails sit above them at different heights. All this shifts the point you are starting from up or down by as much as .25".

if you happen to know your action diameter, height the rail site above the action and the actual objective diameter of the scope (with caps if thats what you want to use) then I can tell you a number that is pretty close.
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Its a 700 action and a seekins 20 moa base

 

[QuiggyB]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DREMEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: QuiggyB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DREMEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does any one know what height 34mm (for a HDMR) seekins rings would work with the evolution chassis? If anyone has any experience with this set up please PM me.
Thanks </div></div>

The answer is going to depend on the action and rail you have. Actions have different diameters and rails sit above them at different heights. All this shifts the point you are starting from up or down by as much as .25".

if you happen to know your action diameter, height the rail site above the action and the actual objective diameter of the scope (with caps if thats what you want to use) then I can tell you a number that is pretty close.
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Its a 700 action and a seekins 20 moa base </div></div>

Assuming the HDMR is the same diameter as a 50mm nightforce (2.324") and a seekings rail is the same height as a nightforce rail (0.487") then the minimum ring height without caps would be 0.91". The 34mm x 1.0" rings will probably work, might be tight with caps. The next step with them is 1.45" which would work on anything.

If you take measurements off your actual stuff, if the rail is lower add the diff, if the scope is smaller subtract the diff. I did add .035" for it being a 20moa rail.

 

[Gman021]

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Finally here

 

[moagm316]

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You all do know that you should be able to put the PRS on this system without any problem using this Ace folding stock adapter.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/825786/...receiver-blocks

Product #: 825786
ACE #: A504

 

[moagm316]

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It is also available from Policestore as well.

http://www.policestore.com/.aspx/pid=45272/Product/AK47-74-ACE-STOCKS-FOLDING-MECHANISMS

I wonder if it would fit. It looks like ti should.

 

[mattj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: moagm316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You all do know that you should be able to put the PRS on this system without any problem using this Ace folding stock adapter.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/825786/...receiver-blocks

Product #: 825786
ACE #: A504 </div></div>

Though why somebody would choose the limitations of the PRS over any of the XLR stock options is quite beyond me (MAYBE if the rifle was being used by a couple of different-sized shooters on a regular basis, in which case the thumbwheel adjustments might be handy).

 

[moagm316]

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All I am saying is that if people want the PRS then this is the way to get it on their rifle. XLR should also consider thumb screws or something as a quicker option.

 

[cavemanmoore]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Though why somebody would choose the limitations of the PRS over any of the XLR stock options is quite beyond me (MAYBE if the rifle was being used by a couple of different-sized shooters on a regular basis, in which case the thumbwheel adjustments might be handy). </div></div>

+1

I ran a PRS on one of my XLR's. It sucked compare to the current line of buttstocks available from XLR (not nearly as comfortable or adjustable).

Same with the folding mechanism. Guys have tried several different folders and the folder that XLR is currently using seems to lock up the tightest.

 

[nozzle13]

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Well mine is finally in. Took it to the range n sighted it in, in 3shots. Then a buddy of mine took me to his personal 1k range. 1st time ever shooting that distance n it shot awesome. The stock is perfect. Now I'll have to get one for my spotter http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/looty24/c8680258.jpg[/img]]Photo

 

[suitslinger]

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Got mine in last month... put the whole thing together, and STILL haven't had the time to get to the range.... GAHHHHH all in all though it's one really nice chassis..

 

[knockemdown]

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Got the GAP 7WSM squared away in the XLR this weekend. Littlebitta Krylon and she's G2G...

The Alpha WSM magazines lock up & feed great! Since my Surgeon SA is one of the older actions, I did have to Dremel out the center of the feed ramp to allow the bullet tip to clear. Once that was accomplished, feeding has been 100%...

Thanks Kyle!!!

 

[PRKmachinist]

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Does anyone have trouble with the cheek rest tipping due to only being retained with one screw per side?

It's always said to get the scope as close to the bore as is possible, but with this setup you're required to raise the scope up over the bore much more than would be possible with a traditional stock or even the McRee chassis which is the other one I am considering...what is the tradeoff here?

Pro's/cons of this vs. the McKee stock?

 

[QuiggyB]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PRKmachinist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone have trouble with the cheek rest tipping due to only being retained with one screw per side?

It's always said to get the scope as close to the bore as is possible, but with this setup you're required to raise the scope up over the bore much more than would be possible with a traditional stock or even the McRee chassis which is the other one I am considering...what is the tradeoff here?

Pro's/cons of this vs. the McKee stock? </div></div>

The cheek piece is held by two aluminum rails machines into the stock and a screw per side. You can see them to the left and right of the screw in this picture. It doesn't move.


IMO since you have a solid cheek piece, your eye is naturally positioned down the center of the scope. Mounting height is not an issue.

 

[cavemanmoore]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PRKmachinist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's always said to get the scope as close to the bore as is possible</div></div>

That is antiquated advice from a time when conventional stocks were designed for rifles with open sights. At that time, a low scope was necessary to obtain a good cheek weld. Fortunately, this is no longer the case.

 

[aubie515]

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Thanks Kyle...UPS just showed up with my XLR for my TRG42. I'll probably end up ordering the folding mechanism and a couple more mags.

 

[PRKmachinist]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: QuiggyB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The cheek piece is held by two aluminum rails machines into the stock and a screw per side. You can see them to the left and right of the screw in this picture. It doesn't move.


IMO since you have a solid cheek piece, your eye is naturally positioned down the center of the scope. Mounting height is not an issue.
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Perfect, thank you - I didn't see those rails in the pictures I looked at.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cavemanmoore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is antiquated advice from a time when conventional stocks were designed for rifles with open sights. At that time, a low scope was necessary to obtain a good cheek weld. Fortunately, this is no longer the case. </div></div>

I did some reading after this posting last night and saw the threads discussing low mount vs. high mount and how it affects scope adjustment for short range vs. long range, I didn't realize that higher up actually helps you will less elevation adjustment needed past your zero point.

 

[mattj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aubie515</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Kyle...UPS just showed up with my XLR for my TRG42. I'll probably end up ordering the folding mechanism and a couple more mags.

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Is that an AI mag?

 

[XLR]

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Yes sir. TRG with AI

 

[mattj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes sir. TRG with AI </div></div>

Sweet!

I actually emailed you about this, feel free to answer here or there -- but any chance TRG-22 w/ AI mags could be done (wonder if would work with AW mags as well)?

 

[steelman303]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RotARy15</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got it today and put it all together. Freaking badass. I've never before had so much fun putting a rifle together. The grip is way better than I could have ever thought. It feels as good as a hand full of boob.

I had a rail on the top front of the tube until I attached the scope and realized that the cover couldn't open. Removing the sunshade would fix it, but it looks too cool with the longer scope body so I removed the rail.

Cool thing is, the entire rifle as it looks in the picture balances perfectly on the recoil lug. Which is also where I instinctively grab it.

Now I'm just waiting for the Alpha type 2 mags.

Savage 10 FCP-K .308
XLR chassis with 14 inch tube
Seekins 20 moa scope base (shortened by XLR)
Seekins AR-High 4 screw rings
SWFA SSHD 5-20x50 with sunshade and switchview lever
Holland bubble level
110 BA bolt handle
Harris 6-9 swivel bipod with pod lock
Accu-shot monopod

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How's that set up shooting?
got any target's?
results, etc?
Nice looking set up, thinking of doing something similar if it works out.
considering using a Savage #12 LRP chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor depending on other guy's outcome with the FCP-K - 308.

 

[RotARy15]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelman303</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How's that set up shooting?
got any target's?
results, etc?
Nice looking set up, thinking of doing something similar if it works out.
considering using a Savage #12 LRP chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor depending on other guy's outcome with the FCP-K - 308. </div></div>

Out of town and unable to take pics of my targets, but it is shooting pretty well. Averaged around .55 before the chassis and appears to be heading towards .45 with the chassis.

Take note, the photo shows the bipod attached directly to the handguard. With it set up like that (using the monopod) I was unable to get elevation set for even 100 yards prone. I bought a LaRue Bipod Adapter and attached it to a rail to replace the bipod stud and raise the front of the rifle. That allowed me to get to 1000 prone.

 

[MarinePMI]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is antiquated advice from a time when conventional stocks were designed for rifles with open sights. At that time, a low scope was necessary to obtain a good cheek weld. Fortunately, this is no longer the case.</div></div>

Caveman,

I have to respectfully disagreed. Having a lowest possible mounted scope is still valid and good advice. Even with target turrets, getting a scope as close to the rifle bore is a good thing. The higher the scope, the greater the angle between LOS and boresight. The greater number of clicks you'll need to account for bullet drop. (This is why most ballistic calculators have you enter in the distance between scope and bore.)

While turrets will allow you to easily adjust for elevation, when snap shooting, a closely mounted scope means your elevation changes aren't as severe and allow for a little bit more wiggle room when using kentucky windage.

JMHO...

 

[XLR]

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Marine, Play around with the scope heights and see what differences you get. There is really not much change.

Here is a post I did some time ago on the subject:

http://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads....962#Post3073962

That being said, there is still a small affect and I do try and keep my scope as close to the hand guard as possible. It is just not something to put a lot of emphasis on.

-Kyle ~ XLR

 

[XLR]

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As a note I will say that I also run a level on all my rifles which negates the problem.

-Kyle ~ XLR