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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alan_H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any one have a s/a AICS they would be willing to let me borrow for a week or so? I can pay shipping

Send me a pm if you do

Thanks, Fuzzy </div></div>

If you can, try the Viperskins as well. I was never comfortable behind the original thumbhole skins, the Viperskins made it much better.
 
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Danner Boot Sale @ The Break Room $100 Off.

This sale is on Danner APB Uniform Boots, 3 Styles and many sizes still available.

Priced $100-$120 for the 400G All Leather Uniform Boot.

This includes Free Shipping and Free Returns. To see actual sale items look at link.

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Full disclosure: I get a small credit toward future purchase IF someone makes a purchase on this sale.

Edited to add: The credit is not why I'm sharing, it goes with the link they provide. It's just the only way to share the deals.

If that bothers anyone please PM me and I will delete this post.

thanks,

Seekers
 
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Looking ahead to next year's match schedule...

How many of you 'tactical' shooters here in the great state of WA that currently *don't* shoot F-class of any kind, would possibly be interested if there was a class that allowed brakes, cans, tactical bipods only, mag length rounds only, no 30" barrels, etc.? Something where your existing tactical rifle would be able to compete straight up against other tactical rifles, not against the dedicated F/TR and F/Open setups.

Looking at something like what is outlined in this thread for a basis.

I'm very interested in your feedback on this, whether via post or by PM.
 
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I found a better synopsis... that thread, while entertaining, does run a bit far afield
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Field Precision Rifle Class (FPR) Limited & Open Overview



F-Precision Rifle Limited Equipment Rules:

• Gas Operated or Bolt Action Scoped Rifle
• Bolt Action Rifles must be repeater type of action. No single shot actions.
• Caliber limited to 308win or 223 (Unmodified)
• 308win bullet weight will be limited to 168gn to 178gn
• 223rem bullet weight will be limited to 92gn maximum.
• Barrels are limited to 26” maximum.
o Length will be measured from recoil lug to front end of muzzle or brake on bolt rifles.
o Length will be measured from the rear of the barrel nut, float tube, or rail attachment nut to front
end of muzzle or brake on semi autos.



• Brakes will be allowed
• Rifle weight limit of 17lbs with Bi-Pod attached. (Weight includes any accessories attached to the rifle)
• Bi-pod will have a weight limit of 20oz maximum. All bipods must have folding legs.


F-Precision Rifle Open Equipment Rules:

• Gas Operated or Bolt Action Scoped Rifle
• Bolt Action Rifles must have a repeater action. No single shot actions.
• Caliber Limited to 6mm to 338cal without bullet weight limitation
• Barrels are limited to 28” maximum.
o Length will be measured from recoil lug to the front of the muzzle or brake on bolt rifles.
o Length will be measured from the rear of the barrel nut, float tube, or rail attachment nut to the
front end of the muzzle or brake on semi auto rifles.



• Brakes are allowed
• Rifle weight limit of 17.5lbs with Bi-Pod attached. (Weight includes any accessories attached to the
rifle)
• Bi-pod will have a weight limit of 20oz maximum. All bipods must have folding legs.




Feeding of Rounds:

• All ammo must be fed from a magazine, mag well, or blind magazine.




Optics:

• Optics will be restricted to 1X to 25X maximum




Rear Rest for Both Classes:

• Must not weigh more than 2lbs.
• Shooting gloves are permitted.
• Monopods are not permitted.
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I would try to shoot those matches, just to get more practice. However, those rules would work against suppressed rifles. I typically shoot a 20" .308, and would prefer to compete in limited, but my can would put me the over the length and weight limits and into open class...

Could those rules be applied to the rifle without the suppressor?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SSSamurai</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would try to shoot those matches, just to get more practice. However, those rules would work against suppressed rifles. I typically shoot a 20" .308, and would prefer to compete in limited, but my can would put me the over the length and weight limits and into open class...

Could those rules be applied to the rifle without the suppressor?</div></div>

I'd think the rules for barrel length should be measured to the crown, not the end of the muzzle device. The overall weight, however, should take in the rifle and all accessories attached to it (brake, can, bipod, etc)
 
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Oh Great King of all Wookies, and big hairy things,

That sounds like a great idea... if people show up as we have talked in the past (myself included).

What if you/we somebody organized a trial run of a match and see what people show up with to shoot. Then collectively we could figure out class structure.

Would distances be the same as F-class?
Would time limits be the same?
Thanks
T
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Monte, will there be no-doze provided for the shooters? </div></div>

Only a pillow and coffee.
 
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Ideally this kind of match would be run concurrent with/ along side conventional HP Prone or Fullbore matches - to get more shooters on the line, and hopefully a little cross-pollenation of experience, etc. Granted, at least over here we typically only have one or two sling shooters (three if I'm feel bored and dust off the iron-sight gun). If there is enough interest i.e. actual repeat turnout on the firing line it may be feasible to hold dedicated matches just for this.

There are basically two kinds of match formats currently being used... 'string' fire, where you shoot by yourself, and have a block of time - typically 22-25 minutes for sighters and 20 record shots - and you can shoot as fast as your target puller can keep up, or as slow as you want (waiting out a condition change). The fastest shooters may be done in 5 minutes or a tad less, most of the line will typically be in the 10-13 minute range. The other 'style' is Fullbore or 'pair' fire... both shooters on the ground side by side (thats where muzzle brakes are going to be *really* fun) and alternate shots. The sighters are convertible i.e. a little bonus if your CBS is dead on, the number of shots a little lower (10-15) and over all a little more 'social' - technically 'coaching' is not allowed, but some chit-chat (or harassment
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) between shooters is typical.

As for the 'rules' outlined above... at this point I'd say they are more like 'guide lines'. As a match director, I don't generally have the time nor the inclination to check every single competitor for rifle weight, barrel length, dimensions, rear bag weight, bullet weight, etc. - not without more of a support infrastructure of one. That's actually one of the arguments I have *against* this kind of match... all the extra rules sounds wunderbar until you're the one tasked with enforcing them. E.g. the barrel length - to the crown might be more 'correct', but with permanently attached brakes and other people not wanting to unscrew their cans... much more expedient to just say 'to the end of the barrel, including whatever is attached to it'. And the weight does, as far as I'm concerned, include everything on the gun - scope, can, bipod, sling, tethered rear bags... basically anything that comes with the gun when you pick it up off the ground.

Again, the above would be primarily a 'guide line', and adherence would be mainly voluntary / on-your-honor. Depending on how many people would show up and the caliber mix, it may not be practical to split it between FPR-Limited (.308/.223) and Open calibers - people need to realize that up front, and be prepared to shoot anyways with no whining because they showed up with a .308 shooting 168 FGMM.
 
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Tri-county gun club did something very similar. The tactical rifles shot the same course of fire, just used different rifles. All the scoring, and target pulling was the same, so it worked out really well.

It is a great idea, and Tri-county found that there were lots of new shooters coming out and everyone got along really well. The only issue was muzzle brakes, but they just got sent to one end of the range, so that solved that issue.
 
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The fun part is going to be that my .338LM will make weight and just squeak under the barrel length limit.

I'm sure some lucky individual(s) will just *love* shooting next to that thing, especially if we do 'pair' firing
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I have 2 protégé's that want to get into tactical match shooting. I might get them to do a 'pair' fire match with me to give them a small sampling of what a match atmosphere can be like. We'll see if I can concentrate for an entire match...
no-doze and pillow in hand :)
 
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Awesome WG, I'm not sure if everything was packed, we ran out of a few styles, so those will ship next week. Maybe all yours did go out, some people were not so lucky!
 
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Want to give you local guys a shot at this:
Want to sell Remington 700 CDL in 300 Remington Ultra mag.
It has the 26" blued barrel.
Less than 200 rounds fired. It has been hunted and has a few small handling marks on the wood.
Metal is 95%+.
It has the soft Remington recoil pad that gets sticky when it is very hot.
This is for the rifle only. The scope, rings, base and bi pod are not for sale.
$550.00 local pick up.
rifle is in the Wenatchee area.
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Jim,
You must be a very careful hunter. My rifles look worse than that after a couple of trips to the range. Maybe I'm just tough on guns..

Good luck with the sale.
 
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So how bad is all the fires and smoke in the Wenatchee area ?
The news makes it look pretty bad but we all know how the news is.
 
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Im in Cle Elum, and you can see the fire working its way over the hills on the east end of town. The valley has been filled with smoke for days. It was so bad one day I thought Easton was on fire.

Cant speak for Wenatchee since I aint there, but I would imagine its pretty smokey.
 
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Wow that's sounding pretty brutal !
Hopefully they'll get everything contained sometime soon.
 
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I was in Wetsnatchee Wednesday, and again Saturday night and Sunday am. Saturday evening a breeze blowing cleared a bunch of the smoke out of the valleys, but from Cle Elum East visibility in general was fairly poor downwind of the fires. I think theres an advisory for stagnant air for the next few days in eastern WA. With some of the terrain the fires are burning in, it will take fall rains to quelch some areas as its not safe to put people there. If I wouldnt have been moving a kid to college last week in S. OR, Id be on the fireline right now myself.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's like this:

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<span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-size: 17pt"> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> <span style="color: #FF0000"> </span> Thats a damn nice photo 1911 fan! </span> </span> </span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I wouldnt have been moving a kid to college last week in S. OR, Id be on the fireline right now myself.
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Where's your kid going? Southern Oregon State University?

Ry
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I wouldnt have been moving a kid to college last week in S. OR, Id be on the fireline right now myself.
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Where's your kid going? Southern Oregon State University?

Ry </div></div>

Oregon Institute of Technology, majoring in baseball,and environmental sciences/forestry/gurlz
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If the wind comes in it blows the smoke away, Helicopters have a better visibility to drop water on the fires , but the wind fans the fire good. If no wind, the ground crews can get in on it but the heli's can't see shit. I see lots of private firefighting units rolling around Cashmere & Wenatchee in the morning as i go to work.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I wouldnt have been moving a kid to college last week in S. OR, Id be on the fireline right now myself.
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Where's your kid going? Southern Oregon State University?

Ry </div></div>

Oregon Institute of Technology, majoring in <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">gurlz</span>,</span> baseball,<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">beer</span></span> and environmental sciences/forestry/
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I fixed it for you Dibbs
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Man Mike that is ugly as hell looking !
Wonder if the "No smoking within 25' of a business door" really matters at the moment.

On another note SHWW just needs a moderator to delete the good guys list and hot girl friends thread and we'll officially be king of the hill !

Now off to post naked political tattooed chicks showing pink in both of those threads and we'll be good to go
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Man Mike that is ugly as hell looking !
Wonder if the "No smoking within 25' of a business door" really matters at the moment.

On another note SHWW just needs a moderator to delete the good guys list and hot girl friends thread and we'll officially be king of the hill !

Now off to post naked political tattooed chicks showing pink in both of those threads and we'll be good to go
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well we wish you good luck and we will see you after the banishment
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Prayers sent Broker!

The two large fires in North Central WA, Table Mountain and portions of the Wenatchee Complex will most likely combine today for a ~70,000+ acre monster. Portions of highway 97 will be closed (Blewett) for firefighting and burnout operations. <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">The firefighters really need a break in the weather</span></span></span>, moisture, and <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">not</span></span> the potentially dry cold front (wind with some chance of lightning and little or no precipitiation) that is forecast.

Lets hope we get some measurable rain...SOON!
 
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