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Reneging the sale after the fact

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    • Apr 12, 2001
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    I am getting reports people are<span style="font-style: italic"> "changing their minds" </span>after the fact.

    Deals are made, money was sent, now you don't want to sell due to current events.

    Well moving forward I am banning the seller for 30 days if they change their mind after the check or money is send. This is unfair to the buyer and poor taste on your part.

    Honor your commitments or we don't need you here.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: slowkota</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bravo!

    Should be a permanent ban though. </div></div>

    Not that my opinion matters but I 2nd Slowkota's suggestion. Either that or the offending seller's name should be made a matter of public record so that others know to steer clear of him/her.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    What you speak of sounds like some serious chicken shit.
    The whole online thing makes it easy. This is why I like to deal with folks in person. Where I live that kind of crap will get you a beat down. A deal is a deal.
     
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    Whining to the teacher after a deal goes bad, says something about both party's to me. But, then again, the day of a mans word, and what happens there after, have been over for a long time.
     
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    I don't see it as whining to the teacher, so much as informing the owner of the tool, it is being misused.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    You tools who are touting "permanent" bans should pull your heads out of your asses. Say you get a DUI. Would you want to lose your driving license FOREVER? People make mistakes. People exercise bad judgement. (Most people don't exercise at all, but I digress...)

    If you don't pick up your dog's sh*t from the local park, should you be banned from that park FOREVER?

    Let the penalty suit the offense. Otherwise, you sound/act like a bunch of LIBERALS. Pathetic.

    I'm not the slightest bit religious, but here you go: "Let ye without sin cast the first stone."

    Frank, thanks for hosting the site, and happy holidays.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    i know shit is crazy right now but a deal is a deal is a deal.
    i like the posting of the name shame can motivate sometimes.
    my 2 cents
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    As this IS LL's site, 'whining' to him is very valuable and the only way he can rid this site of the bullshit like this. I agree with 'permanent ban' as well. If we all have any values at all in common here, it is that we all take a man for his word, especially in a cash or money transaction when money is freakin tight as hell
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    Permanant ban is too severe, but definately, a "Wall of Shame".
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    The wall of shame works great in smallish towns, where bounced checks get pinned to the wall next to the cash register.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Permanant ban is too severe, but definately, a "Wall of Shame". </div></div>

    +1

    Sticky with member names right at the top of the Classifieds section...
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As this IS LL's site, 'whining' to him is very valuable and the only way he can rid this site of the bullshit like this. I agree with 'permanent ban' as well. </div></div>

    Yep, it IS LowLight's site, and he's saying a 30-day ban, so who are YOU to tell him that a permanent ban is the better fix? Maybe YOU should be permanently banned for disputing what he's already decided.

    He didn't ask for opinions. And hopefully, if he wants your opinion, he'll beat it out of you.
    laugh.gif
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NaHa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You tools who are touting "permanent" bans should pull your heads out of your asses. Say you get a DUI. Would you want to lose your driving license FOREVER? People make mistakes. People exercise bad judgement. (Most people don't exercise at all, but I digress...)</div></div>

    Actually, yes, they should lose their license forever.
    Recidivism is very high amongst drunk drivers and they commit the offense many times before they are caught.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    Sounds to me like NaHa is the type of dude that would exhibit said type of scumbaggish behavior.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds to me like NaHa is the type of dude that would exhibit said type of scumbaggish behavior. </div></div>

    Are you drinking again...
    laugh.gif
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    Two things:

    Any dealings that I have had with folks here, (and there have been a LOT of them) have almost all gone smoothly. Specifically, there is only ONE who said that another item was included in a deal, but has yet to send that item. This is almost two years ago, he knows who he is, and has even phoned me once on it. Over a year ago. I'll still leave it to him to either do something, or not. I had another opportunity at the time, for that same item elsewhere, but let it go because of this 'offer'. This is the first I've brought this up, and I need go no further. (hint)

    Secondly, on this site, in this community, and amongst these folks, there DAMN WELL BETTER be some Integrity. Honor, and even Respect! One should NOT have to go chasing after someone, and at the same time one should NOT have to bring issues to the attention of mods or Lowlights, or anyone else for that matter.

    Again, one SHOULD not have to.

    Last thing any of us want, is to piss off "the man", and lose even more of our "Freedoms".
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I agree 100% with a more lengthy ban, something like 6 months. That is a very chickenshit thing to do, backing out of the sale after the buyer has already sent the funds.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    i have had only a few dealings on this site, i take them all very seriously. whether it be a mag or a 5000 rifle. it is a deal between to people with trust on both sides. if you can sleep at night screwing someone then thats on you, i know for a fact when it comes to me i CANT! and that to me is all its about you know if you did right or not!
    i find in my case dont screw and you are less likely to do screwed.
    but hey im a stupid guy from wnc
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I agree there should be a consequence. What that "consequence" should be should be left up to those that operate/own the site-- it seems to me they've done a pretty good job to date. However, I do not necessarily see the difference between this scenario and someone flat out welching on a deal? They seem pretty much the same to me with this scenario possibly adding greed to the list of the person's character defects. Is there a standard response to welching in general?
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    Not my job to debate the "length" or severity of the punishment...that is solely within LL's sound discretion, but I agree wholeheartedly with the imposition of some sort of ban for this kind of conduct.

    We should all be men (and women) of our words. If you want to be a candy-ass, chicken-$#!T lowlife who's branded by members of this community as PNG, then so be it. Pay the price with a ban and the lasting consequences of your actions which may be further reaching than just a 30-day timeout!
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I can tell you that if I send an invoice to my clients for an amount materially higher than that which I originally proposed for the work, there had better be a damn good explanation for the increase or I can count on being "Banned"!

    Difficult to determine the time limit on such a ban as well.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    This just happened to a friend of mine and he is a member on the hide. BTW he is on many peoples GTG list. Dude accepts his offer on upper/lower, he sends the money order.

    Now the "dude" will not answer pm's, texts, anything.

    I would bet he received a higher offer after the deal was done, you can figure out the rest of the story....

    Rthur
     
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    Only deal I've ever had go south was on another board with a name intended to convey a sense of moral superiority.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    This has happened to me on another site.I think you should publish the name of the culprit.so we are warned.
    If he acted this way once.......he`ll do it again......
    bill larson
     
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    Im going to let it play out to see if this dude will follow through afterall. If not I'll let my bud tear into his ass.

    R
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    With out the name of the low life scum bag, or thief- as I should have said, he is free to continue this type of "business" with others, if not on this board, other boards, to be sure. Their name, what they were selling, where they were from, i.e. "Red Rock.." , may keep others from falling prey to the same scam.
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    Maybe set up a NGTG thread....

    DB1 level = first time offence
    DB2 level = second offence
    DBX level = full DB banned from the site

    JS
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I got into a pissing contest because of who's PM came first and one guy being local.

    I Just sent $500 worth of BP Pistols without receiving the check yet, because I've done prior business with the guy - pretty risky but pretty cool.

    Once a deal is made, I can understand - stuff happens, but once the funds are inbound the deal is sealed unless there's some huge reason (ie death in family or whatnot).
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I agree, Pimpgun. My word is my bond, and I will not do business with anyone who does not feel the same, at least not more than once. I tried to raise my Sons the same way, and now am working on the Grandchildren. Merry Christmas, Lightman
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    It's called staying hitched. When you tell a man it's a deal some stay hitched some don't. Your sins will find you out!
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NaHa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You tools who are touting "permanent" bans should pull your heads out of your asses. Say you get a DUI. Would you want to lose your driving license FOREVER? People make mistakes. People exercise bad judgement. (Most people don't exercise at all, but I digress...)

    If you don't pick up your dog's sh*t from the local park, should you be banned from that park FOREVER?

    Let the penalty suit the offense. Otherwise, you sound/act like a bunch of LIBERALS. Pathetic.

    I'm not the slightest bit religious, but here you go: "Let ye without sin cast the first stone."
    l Let me be the first to say you are an asshole... a man is only as good as his word...if you agree to purchase, you give your word...remind me to never do any transaction withn you
    Frank, thanks for hosting the site, and happy holidays. </div></div>
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    I would say I would be a bit chapped if I sent $ and didn't receive what I have payed for. Do what you say and say what you do. Verbal hand shake of the internet wouldn't you say?
     
    Re: Reneging the sale after the fact

    why do i get the feeling that the offending event had to do with either high capacity mags or an AR?
     
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