Savage TRR-SR vs. CZ Tacticool - Quality ? Value ?

[Parallax]

I've finally located my .22 training rifle candidates in stock and available at a distributor. I checked out the Savage TRR-SR...nice, Boyds Tacticool stock, Accu-trigger, rail system and available at $538 tax included. Next, the new CZ 455 Tacticool rifle. I'm told it is exactly the same rifle as the Precision Trainer except in a Boyds Tacticool stock same as the Savage... available at $513 tax included.

From the threads I've researched it seems both rifles are pretty well thought of. They seem to be direct competitors, same stock.... maybe different attributes. For me the Accu-trigger and the threaded barrel are nice features on the Savage.... the rail system is awful ugly and would likely need replacement, so that's not part of my consideration as an advantage. Maybe it grows on ya if you own one.

The CZ trigger reportedly is not so nice, but overall quality is said to be better. A more substantial rifle I'm told, thought to be slightly more accurate... no threaded barrel. The CZ is $20 cheaper.

Thoughts ? I have not had an opportunity to actually try either of these rifles...

The dealer does have a CZ 455 Precision Rifle in the shop that's very, very nice, but also $870. I know the Manners stock is nice, but $360 nicer then the same rifle in the Tacticool ?

 

[jeffersonv]

I have a Savage TR. It shoots OK and I don't think I have found the ammo it likes best yet. Even if I do I don't think it will have a cold bore shot that groups with the rest once the barrel starts to heat up. I still don't feel so confident at 50 yards with it yet and have only shot the 25 yard rim fire comps on this site so far. A lack of ammo has also contributed to this shortcoming.

I couldn't find a CZ 452 when I was shopping for a trainer and didn't know if I could fit a 455 to a tacticool stock at the time so I went with the Savage. I still wish I had been able to get a CZ and still may do that someday.

As far as the tacticool vs a Manners stock I would answer your question with a question or two.
Do you want to feel like your rifle is done? Or do you want to always have improvements to make on it?

I like to keep a trainer a trainer and not spend so much on it that I should feel like it will rival my better rifles. On the other hand I have never felt as confident with my Savage as I would like to because of the soft wood Tacticool stock.

I think I should say even with my trainer not shooting as well as I would like it to, it has served it's purpose (as a trainer) to help me shoot better with all my rifles.

 

[1slow01z71]

All depends on what oyu expect to get out of the rifle. Do you plan on putting a can on it? Will you be modifying the rifle further? The CZ with a lilja barrely and a good stock is hard to beat. Ive got an FVSR and while the trigger is nice, its no custom trigger so if youre a trigger snob Id plan on replacing it regardless so that brings them closer together. I like my FVSR but Ill be picking up a CZ too. Not that I dislike my FVSR but the action just isnt the quality that Im used to. I really love my 77/17 but I really like the precision trainer. If you plan to mod it, Id pony up for the CZ PT.

 

[Parallax]

Thanks guys... exactly the sort of information I'm looking for. Very helpful points to consider...

 

[captskippy]

I have the TRR-SR. I purchased it last year and a I like it. I did not put on that ugly rail, instead I went with an EGW 20 MOA base, a set of Burris tactical rings and topped it off with the Weaver Grand Slam mil/mil scope from Midway with a Nikon sunshade. And yes I do put a Liberty Kodiak on the end. Plenty accurate for me at 50, have not yet gone out to 200. Nieces and nephews really dig shooting it as well, so for me it fits the bill nicely for when the kids want to go shooting. I was going to modify a single shot Kimber 82 but that got a little too crazy real fast. I do not have any experience with the CZ.

 

[Tempest 455]

My son and I also have the TRR-SR. 90% of the time we shoot it at 100 yards. However, we often shoot it at 330 yards and it's been a very accurate gun (for a .22). I may do as the above poster and change out to the EGW 20 MOA base.

 

[bobtodrick]

Okay, it's not exactly apples to apples, but I have a Savage .22WMR and I'm very happy with the barrel (the s.s. bull).
Up here in Alberta we have long cold winters and I have no issue going out in below zero weather (otherwise I'd not be shooting for 4 months of the year).
So a 'cold bore' shot is...really cold.
And yet my first shot of a session lands exactly where the rest of string lands.

 

[bunsen27]

The biggest advantage the CZ 455 has over the Savage is the ability to swap out barrels for a nice aftermarket target barrel. Also, trigger work on a CZ is fairly simple and well within the realm of most shade tree gunsmiths.

 

[bobtodrick]

The biggest advantage the CZ 455 has over the Savage is the ability to swap out barrels for a nice aftermarket target barrel. Also, trigger work on a CZ is fairly simple and well within the realm of most shade tree gunsmiths.

You really have no idea how mechanically inept I am LOL

 

[noeesp]

The Cz 455 in the manners stock is really nice. My brother picked one up yesterday and we should give it a try this weekend against my sako P94s. My First impression is that it is a much more solid feeling rifle than the tacticool model. Worth the money in my opinion.

 

[hahco]

I've finally located my .22 training rifle candidates in stock and available at a distributor. I checked out the Savage TRR-SR...nice, Boyds Tacticool stock, Accu-trigger, rail system and available at $538 tax included. Next, the new CZ 455 Tacticool rifle. I'm told it is exactly the same rifle as the Precision Trainer except in a Boyds Tacticool stock same as the Savage... available at $513 tax included.

From the threads I've researched it seems both rifles are pretty well thought of. They seem to be direct competitors, same stock.... maybe different attributes. For me the Accu-trigger and the threaded barrel are nice features on the Savage.... the rail system is awful ugly and would likely need replacement, so that's not part of my consideration as an advantage. Maybe it grows on ya if you own one.

The CZ trigger reportedly is not so nice, but overall quality is said to be better. A more substantial rifle I'm told, thought to be slightly more accurate... no threaded barrel. The CZ is $20 cheaper.

Thoughts ? I have not had an opportunity to actually try either of these rifles...

The dealer does have a CZ 455 Precision Rifle in the shop that's very, very nice, but also $870. I know the Manners stock is nice, but $360 nicer then the same rifle in the Tacticool ?

you need to get your hands on both of them. all the back and forth will probably be over instantly after you have had a chance to compare them side by side. I love savages, but the only thing the CZ gives up to a savage rimfire is that it has a crappy trigger.

And yes, the Manners stock is $360 nicer than the Tacticool.

 

[Parallax]

How about the Anschutz 64 MP R ? I found one at a killer price. About $100 over the CZ Precision Rifle. I think that's a bit more value then just a synthetic stock for an extra $100. As long as I'm considering spending nearly that much anyway...

 

[hahco]

How about the Anschutz 64 MP R ? I found one at a killer price. About $100 over the CZ Precision Rifle. I think that's a bit more value then just a synthetic stock for an extra $100. As long as I'm considering spending that much anyway...

It's a step above both the CZ and the Savage. If you've got the $$, go for it.

 

[Parallax]

I did... I've wanted an Anschutz for years. Not until this morning when I asked my dealer to do some further checking, did I realized that if I purchased a CZ 455 Precision Trainer I'd be within easy reach of what I found I could get the Annie 64 MPR for. So... I have a new Anschutz 64 MPR on the way ! Woo Hoo !

BTW, I love CZ products. I've shot CZ75 pistols in competition for a number of years, in fact... I just got a new CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Target from the CZ Custom Shop a few weeks ago. I really considered this quite a while.... the rimfire project funds represent a ton of extra work days the last few months and I wanted to make sure it was well spent.

 

[hahco]

you will not go wrong with the 64 MPR. good choice. now ... just have to find some ammo for it ...

 

[bunsen27]

Buy once, cry once. You made an excellent choice!

 

[hahco]

I did... I've wanted an Anschutz for years. Not until this morning when I asked my dealer to do some further checking, did I realized that if I purchased a CZ 455 Precision Trainer I'd be within easy reach of what I found I could get the Annie 64 MPR for. So... I have a new Anschutz 64 MPR on the way ! Woo Hoo !

BTW, I love CZ products. I've shot CZ75 pistols in competition for a number of years, in fact... I just got a new CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Target from the CZ Custom Shop a few weeks ago. I really considered this quite a while.... the rimfire project funds represent a ton of extra work days the last few months and I wanted to make sure it was well spent.

now that I think about it, are you saying that you got a NIB 64 MPR for under a grand? I'd love to know where

 

[Parallax]

Close.... with 5.5% tax and shipping it was $1075.

 

[inglese]

Wow! I am looking at the same rifles but here in Italy things are much different.
The trr sr costs 820€ while the Cz is around 500€, so that gives lots of points to the latter.
The threaded barrel is an awesome future as over here it is forbidden to thread them, you can only be allowed one if the rifle comes with it out of the box.
Silencers are illegal here but would be easy to use one in my property just to avoid bothering neighbours.
The other option is a homemade adaptor for the cz(haven't found an adaptor anywhere!)
Here the CZ is actually considered better quality than Savage.
Can't understand why the trr costs double the other savage models? Just for the stock? Or is also barrel and action better quality?
I would go for the trr if the quality was similar but to spend twice as much for worse just to have the thread is too much.

 

[1slow01z71]

Yes the stock is the only difference really. The FVSR is basically the TRR-SR but with a 4" shorter barrel, a crappy stock and youre not paying for that ugly ass rail they send with it. For me it was a no brainer as you dont gain any velocity going from 16 to 20", Id want a boyds tacticool stock and dont way that rail they sell. If the CZ is cheaper no way Id buy a savage, there is no comparison. The action on the CZ is much nicer but not double the cost nicer for us folks over here in the US.

 

[finefire]

You really have no idea how mechanically inept I am LOL

That is rarely a deterrent....