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Rifle Scopes SWFA 3-15X42 Classic

Jon A

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A couple short notes as I haven't had a chance to spend too much time with it yet. But here are my impressions so far:

First the important stuff:

Reticle calibration and click value measure accurate within 0.5%. Reticle is square with the movement of the turrets within 1/2 degree. Tracking has been perfectly repeatable so far.

Total elevation travel of my example: 41 Mils 26 Mils "up" available after a 100 yd zero when mounted in a 20 MOA mount. Now they only advertise 36 total so they may not all have as much as mine does, I'm just reporting what I see.


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The reticle on 3X, 10X and 15X:

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At the range:

Size comparison with SS 3-9 and 5-20HD:

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It was a dark, gloomy day at the range which is not good for pictures. So don't attempt to judge the glass quality from these pics as it's impossible to take good pics through a scope in such conditions.

100 yds:

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300 yds:

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A couple 100 and 300 yd targets:

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I was in somewhat of a hurry and not doing my best shooting, but even so 39 of 40 rounds went sub MOA.

The eye relief on this scope is by far the best of all the Classic line, longer and more friendly than the well known fixed models. This will make the scope well suited for hard kicking hunting rifles among other things.

I haven't spent much time comparing glass yet, but it looks at first blush pretty good, clearly the overall best of the Classic line. I was able to see the 6mm holes in the paper at 300 yds without too much trouble. But yes, you can see quite a bit more detail with the 5-20 HD as you should with more magnification and higher price.

All in all I'm quite impressed with the scope for the price. Knowing how durable the classic line is, with all that elevation travel it has, this scope can do most things up to and including ELR use without spending a lot of money.
 
Thanks for posting your thoughts. Now to decide if I should pull the trigger on the 25th or not. Boy, a group buy sure would help me explain this to the wife SWFA *hint hint* :)

By the way, I am curious when you say best of the classic line, do you mean better than the 3-9? Technically that is a classic, but I know the lines get a bit blurry with that particular scope.
 
It was a dark, gloomy day at the range which is not good for pictures. So don't attempt to judge the glass quality from these pics as it's impossible to take good pics through a scope in such conditions.

I notice some CA present is it similar to the 4-16 pst or would you say this model handles it a little better?
 
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I notice some CA present is it similar to the 4-16 pst or would you say this model is a little better?


I did not really notice any, as I can see it a lil bit on my ERS. It's all dependent on how you are behind the rifle. That's at least my observation.
 
I did not really notice any, as I can see it a lil bit on my ERS. It's all dependent on how you are behind the rifle. That's at least my observation.

Thanks, that is the only beef I have with my pst, it’s still more than good enough to get the job done but does get a little distracting when moving from scope to scope on my rifles at the range.
 
seeing how well these scopes are doing make me really excited for my 5-20 hd to get here in the mail!!!
 
By the way, I am curious when you say best of the classic line, do you mean better than the 3-9? Technically that is a classic, but I know the lines get a bit blurry with that particular scope.
While the 3-9 may not technically be an HD, I don't consider it a Classic either as it is made in the same factory as the HD's, has the HD-style turrets, eyepiece, focus and power ring.... Anyway, I was comparing it with the fixed powered classics. I'll need to spend more time comparing it with the 3-9 to declare a winner--when both are set to 9X. If you're just curious which one can see more detail overall, obviously the 3-15 wins easily when the power is cranked up.
I notice some CA present is it similar to the 4-16 pst or would you say this model handles it a little better?
To say anything definitive I should really compare the two side by side. The SS is a lot better than I remember the 4-16 being but that was a long time ago with early production PST's, I think I'd want to compare a newer model side-by-side before making any declarations. But no, while you can see some CA in the pics it's not something I notice or get bothered by when shooting the 3-15--though I have with other scopes in the past.
 
thanx for the review JAsnK, this scope will fit perfectly on my 204 ruger and now i can take my more expensive scope off it.
 
While the 3-9 may not technically be an HD, I don't consider it a Classic either as it is made in the same factory as the HD's, has the HD-style turrets, eyepiece, focus and power ring.... Anyway, I was comparing it with the fixed powered classics. I'll need to spend more time comparing it with the 3-9 to declare a winner--when both are set to 9X. If you're just curious which one can see more detail overall, obviously the 3-15 wins easily when the power is cranked up.

To say anything definitive I should really compare the two side by side. The SS is a lot better than I remember the 4-16 being but that was a long time ago with early production PST's, I think I'd want to compare a newer model side-by-side before making any declarations. But no, while you can see some CA in the pics it's not something I notice or get bothered by when shooting the 3-15--though I have with other scopes in the past.

If the glass on the 3-15 is equal to the 3-9, there are going to be a whole lot of happy folks! The glass on my SS 3-9 is very good. If it is that good I may be switching out myself.

Scot
 
OK, I’ve spent some time now comparing glass on this thing and now I’m even more impressed. Lots of people were asking how it is compared with the SS 3-9:

With both set on 9X, the 3-15 has noticeably better resolution than my 3-9. It’s a pretty noticeable difference. Now resolution isn’t the only thing that matters—the 3-9 has a larger FOV power for power, and a larger apparent FOV (due in part to shorter eye relief). The 3-9 also has the edge in apparent brightness—though that may be somewhat an illusion caused by the shorter eye relief and larger apparent FOV. I don’t think the difference is ever large enough you can see something with the 3-9 you can’t with the 3-15, the 3-9 just “seems” a bit brighter. Both handle stray light very well. In short, if you’re happy with the 3-9 glass you’ll be even happier with the 3-15—especially if seeing detail at long range is what’s most important to you.

With the thicker center lines in the reticle, the 3-9 has an edge in low light if taking medium range shots on 3X where seeing those lines is important. On higher powers more appropriate to the range the 3-15 does fine. At closer ranges, even on 3X, it doesn’t really matter as both have the same sized posts for fast “point and shoot” vital zone shots.

Compared with the 16X fixed SS Classic, the 3-15 is really impressive. While the 16X is close in resolution, you notice when you compare them side by side it has a veiling flare that is not present in the 3-15 making the 3-15 look significantly more “clear.” As light gets dimmer this difference becomes more apparent and at a point the 16X is hard to look through/no longer usable, the 3-15X still looks great. Of course the fixed 16X was never meant to be a low light scope—in good light, especially on paper targets the 16X looks just fine. But when looking into the trees, etc, and especially as the light gets dimmer, the 3-15 jumps way out in front. People wondering why it’s so much more expensive than the rest of the classic series need only do one quick comparison like this to see where a big chunk of that money went.

Compared with the PST 6-24, the two are very close. Now my particular 6-24 has really, really good glass for the price range—for those who remember it was dramatically better than the two 4-16 PST’s I had. Comparing the two scopes side by side it’s on 15X difficult to tell the difference. The resolution is so close it’s hard to call a winner. The colors on the PST might look a tad better. As the light gets dimmer, the PST starts to show a small advantage on the higher powers as it should with the larger objective. So overall I’d have to give the slight edge to the PST, but they’re close enough you won’t notice the difference unless you’re really, really looking for it.

The PST obviously can be turned up to 24X for more detail at long range, the 3-15 has a FOV on 3X more than twice the size of the PST’s on 6X for use at close range. The SS has around double the amount of travel. Two excellent scopes in this price range offering different features so one can select the scope best suited to his application and make a good choice either way. I like them both.

After doing that I can say without a doubt the 3-15SS is dramatically better than the two 4-16 PST’s I had. Beyond the resolution and CA, the 4-16’s had a noticeable veiling flare that is not present with the 6-24 or the SS 3-15. But as I’ve said, that was some time ago, I’ll leave it to others with more recent models to do an in-depth comparo.

I did compare it to the 5-20 HD as well, and as you may expect the HD wins pretty easily. The difference isn’t as huge or noticeable as you may expect though if you’ve used the other fixed SS classics. The 3-15 is in another ballpark compared with them in my opinion. Considering the reticle, the turrets, the travel, etc, the 3-15 is a heck of a scope for its price.
 
OK, I’ve spent some time now comparing glass on this thing and now I’m even more impressed. Lots of people were asking how it is compared with the SS 3-9:

With both set on 9X, the 3-15 has noticeably better resolution than my 3-9. It’s a pretty noticeable difference. Now resolution isn’t the only thing that matters—the 3-9 has a larger FOV power for power, and a larger apparent FOV (due in part to shorter eye relief). The 3-9 also has the edge in apparent brightness—though that may be somewhat an illusion caused by the shorter eye relief and larger apparent FOV. I don’t think the difference is ever large enough you can see something with the 3-9 you can’t with the 3-15, the 3-9 just “seems” a bit brighter. Both handle stray light very well. In short, if you’re happy with the 3-9 glass you’ll be even happier with the 3-15—especially if seeing detail at long range is what’s most important to you.

With the thicker center lines in the reticle, the 3-9 has an edge in low light if taking medium range shots on 3X where seeing those lines is important. On higher powers more appropriate to the range the 3-15 does fine. At closer ranges, even on 3X, it doesn’t really matter as both have the same sized posts for fast “point and shoot” vital zone shots.

Compared with the 16X fixed SS Classic, the 3-15 is really impressive. While the 16X is close in resolution, you notice when you compare them side by side it has a veiling flare that is not present in the 3-15 making the 3-15 look significantly more “clear.” As light gets dimmer this difference becomes more apparent and at a point the 16X is hard to look through/no longer usable, the 3-15X still looks great. Of course the fixed 16X was never meant to be a low light scope—in good light, especially on paper targets the 16X looks just fine. But when looking into the trees, etc, and especially as the light gets dimmer, the 3-15 jumps way out in front. People wondering why it’s so much more expensive than the rest of the classic series need only do one quick comparison like this to see where a big chunk of that money went.

Compared with the PST 6-24, the two are very close. Now my particular 6-24 has really, really good glass for the price range—for those who remember it was dramatically better than the two 4-16 PST’s I had. Comparing the two scopes side by side it’s on 15X difficult to tell the difference. The resolution is so close it’s hard to call a winner. The colors on the PST might look a tad better. As the light gets dimmer, the PST starts to show a small advantage on the higher powers as it should with the larger objective. So overall I’d have to give the slight edge to the PST, but they’re close enough you won’t notice the difference unless you’re really, really looking for it.

The PST obviously can be turned up to 24X for more detail at long range, the 3-15 has a FOV on 3X more than twice the size of the PST’s on 6X for use at close range. The SS has around double the amount of travel. Two excellent scopes in this price range offering different features so one can select the scope best suited to his application and make a good choice either way. I like them both.

After doing that I can say without a doubt the 3-15SS is dramatically better than the two 4-16 PST’s I had. Beyond the resolution and CA, the 4-16’s had a noticeable veiling flare that is not present with the 6-24 or the SS 3-15. But as I’ve said, that was some time ago, I’ll leave it to others with more recent models to do an in-depth comparo.

I did compare it to the 5-20 HD as well, and as you may expect the HD wins pretty easily. The difference isn’t as huge or noticeable as you may expect though if you’ve used the other fixed SS classics. The 3-15 is in another ballpark compared with them in my opinion. Considering the reticle, the turrets, the travel, etc, the 3-15 is a heck of a scope for its price.

Thank you for this.
 
After doing that I can say without a doubt the 3-15SS is dramatically better than the two 4-16 PST’s I had. Beyond the resolution and CA, the 4-16’s had a noticeable veiling flare that is not present with the 6-24 or the SS 3-15. But as I’ve said, that was some time ago, I’ll leave it to others with more recent models to do an in-depth comparo.

Jon, you taught me about CA, now it’s time for veiling flare... what is that?
 
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