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Better go buy mosins

I have a few, no where as nice as MJ's, but a nice variety. I guess I never thought they would go up in price. I have been seeing the Izzy rounds going for $169, and folks are snatching them up. Gosh they were only $69 about 3 years ago, guys were buying whole crates. Some online places still have them for $89, but not in stock.
 
I grabbed another one last weekend. Best $80 I've ever spent.

Since I started this whole shooting thing, I've set aside a decent budget with two rules, "If the mosin is less than $100, buy it." and "If the service rifle is under $200, buy it." I did break the Mosin rule the other day. I ran across a 1925 Foremost Ordnance Factory USSR at Tula with a MO marking. That one had to follow me home for $150.
 
Always jealous of MJ1's pics. He has the nicest old rifles. As for the executive order, the way I read it, it will only apply to rifles that were sent overseas such as Garands and M1 Carbines. These will not be able to be RE-imported, like what CMP does. Either way it's bad all around. Check out the Silencer sub-forum for a link to the article. Contact your reps.
 
The executive order only bans the reimportation of US military arms that have been supplied to other countries.

And since those are mostly M16s, they are not legal anyway.

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence | The White House

When the United States provides military firearms to its allies, either as direct commercial sales or through the foreign military sales or military assistance programs, those firearms may not be imported back into the United States without U.S. government approval. Since 2005, the U.S. Government has authorized requests to reimport more than 250,000 of these firearms.

Today, the Administration is announcing a new policy of denying requests to bring military-grade firearms back into the United States to private entities, with only a few exceptions such as for museums. This new policy will help keep military-grade firearms off our streets.

So the funny thing is, this will hurt police departments more than the public.
 
This is the kind of topic that drives prices higher with no basis in fact. It's already bad enough with one of the Local dealers wanting $299 and more for a Hex receiver Mosin as of a week ago.
 
This is the kind of topic that drives prices higher with no basis in fact. It's already bad enough with one of the Local dealers wanting $299 and more for a Hex receiver Mosin as of a week ago.

OUCH!!! ~$300 for a hex-receivered Mosin!!! You'd have to shoot me with it first and then take my money from my wallet to get me to spend that on most of the junk I see from some of my local dealers on items like that.

I had a rather heated discussion with one old boy about 2 months ago over a very similar $225 one that looked like hell from butt to muzzle, inside and out, who informed me that price is what the market was bearing nowadays on those "fine" military surplus rifles and that I should be happy to even get a chance to buy one!! ;) Needless to say...its still on the rack to this day with the same price tag. I hope its still there when he croaks and his estate can get $75 for it because it isn't worth a dime more than that as it sits!
 
The executive order only bans the reimportation of US military arms that have been supplied to other countries.

And since those are mostly M16s, they are not legal anyway.

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence | The White House



So the funny thing is, this will hurt police departments more than the public.

I believe this will ship jobs overseas. Many of those M16s coming back are disassembled into "parts kits" with the barrels and lower receivers removed and destroyed. I believe this work is currently done at the SOT here, will have to go overseas so they can ship back unregulated parts in the future. Probably lower the price due to lower wages/standard of living(rolls eyes) Could be entirely wrong, it's happened before.
 
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I stops the 100,000 M1 Carbines S. Korea has been trying to sell. As stated, just USA made, bought or loaned weapons will be banned from reimportation. Parts kits are still good. So no more M1's, 1903's, Savage Enfield's, Krag's and the like. Stupid laws made by stupid @#$@#$#@
 
I believe this will ship jobs overseas. Many of those M16s coming back are disassembled into "parts kits" with the barrels and lower receivers removed and destroyed. I believe this work is currently done at the SOT here, will have to go overseas so they can ship back unregulated parts in the future. Probably lower the price due to lower wages/standard of living(rolls eyes) Could be entirely wrong, it's happened before.

That would be about right.

Accomplish NOTHING to reduce crime, but also eliminate US jobs. GREAT move.
 
It's not a law, it's an Executive Order. It's what Chief Executives do when they can't coerce Congress into going along with their campaign promises.

There are no positive aspects to ones like this one, except that they look good in a headline and give comfort to fools who are too dumb/lazy to check out the context within which the order is being declared. They will rejoice and continue to vote such people into office, which is precisely the intended effect with this one.

Aside from a sacrificial loss of a few more American jobs, the net effect of this one is zero.

Greg


Greg is exactly right.

I deleted mine too to be on the safe side.
 
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I stops the 100,000 M1 Carbines S. Korea has been trying to sell. As stated, just USA made, bought or loaned weapons will be banned from reimportation. Parts kits are still good. So no more M1's, 1903's, Savage Enfield's, Krag's and the like. Stupid laws made by stupid @#$@#$#@

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That is the big one right there. M16's wouldn't ever really sell en-masse. But, reimported M1 and M1 Carbines would go like hotcakes right now.
 
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That is the big one right there. M16's wouldn't ever really sell en-masse. But, reimported M1 and M1 Carbines would go like hotcakes right now.

Now I guess the South Koreans can utilize North Korean labor near the DMZ to "manufacture" parts kits from their M1s. Foreign policy full of "win":(
Waiting for CMP's panic buy ad."By executive order, these are the last authentic rifles available."
 
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Just curious, but aren't M-16's designated as Class III firearms just like M-14's due to their full auto capability ("once a machine gun, always a machine gun")?
 
Just curious, but aren't M-16's designated as Class III firearms just like M-14's due to their full auto capability ("once a machine gun, always a machine gun")?

Yep, and the ones effected by this action aren't on the registry, so they can't be sold to civilians. However, properly qualified entities could, before this action, import them, remove and destroy the barrels and lower receivers, and sell the rest as parts kits, providing an opportunity for U.S. jobs. Now those firearms will have to be disassembled overseas if those parts kits are to be available in the U.S.. Or they could be sent to the next highest bidder, whether that be a dictator in Africa or drug lord in South America or Mexico. Win-Win right ?
 
Just curious, but aren't M-16's designated as Class III firearms just like M-14's due to their full auto capability ("once a machine gun, always a machine gun")?

Correct. My point being is because of the extra hoops already required to get an M-16 they would be less desirable than an M1/M1 Carbine in that the latter is a "ready to go, sellable" item.

In retrospect, it might be the M-16 that outsells any and all other mil-surps brought back to the U.S.
 
Call me crazy, but the time has past. I bought a bunch of VZ24's at $75 6 years ago so I would have to buy the only thing left later...mosins.
 
The executive order only bans the reimportation of US military arms that have been supplied to other countries.

I haven't given it much thought or read anything about this other than a few posts here, but the one thing that struck me was they must be thinking "let's be sure to keep guns in the hands of foreigners, not our enemies..." If you get my drift.
 
Prices have fallen since the "great panic", but not to where they were...
Several of the usual C&R players have them for $129. The 440 round ammo packs can still be had for under $100. If the cheap ammo dries up for the plinkers (i don't shoot the stuff because it's not accurate enough for target work) the attractiveness of the rifles will drop, IMO.

Still reasonably accurate when modded and handloads used...which is why I make stocks for 'em...
 
Prices have fallen since the "great panic", but not to where they were...
Several of the usual C&R players have them for $129. The 440 round ammo packs can still be had for under $100. If the cheap ammo dries up for the plinkers (i don't shoot the stuff because it's not accurate enough for target work) the attractiveness of the rifles will drop, IMO.

Still reasonably accurate when modded and handloads used...which is why I make stocks for 'em...

Nice subtle plug, there. ;-)

JK
 
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1. I think the point here is the executive order= FATWA.

But I could be wrong.

2. Nice subtle plug, there. ;-)

JK

No this is a subtle plug. Home

3. roggom; I have a few, no where as nice as MJ's, but a nice variety. THAN YOU.