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First Bolt $1200ish budget

Sugarbug

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Apr 11, 2013
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What do you guys recommend (and why) for my first bolt gun? I don't have the budget for a full custom job, but I am considering the 5r in 308.

Currently discussing a trade for one with a little work done to it, but it's a tax-free 2nd amendment weekend (no sales tax in LA for guns/ammo/hunting gear), so I wasn't sure if I should just buy something new.

This will be for shooting 600 - 1000y.

Your thoughts please.
 
This is a question that's really impossible for anyone but you to answer. My suggestion would be to go out and at least handle several different brands/types of rifles. If possible, shoot them. You'll start to get a feel for what you like and don't like. Most of the popular brands have rifles that are fully capable of doing what you want to do with them. The smaller cosmetic and function details are what will make/break it for you, personally. The 5r has a good reputation and will probably serve you well. The advantage to going Remington is that it has the most aftermarket support and you can find just about anything you could ever want for it, growing on a tree at any street corner. Also, most smiths are familiar with them. Rifles from Savage and Howa are usually considered among the "best bang for the buck" category and many will swear that they're more accurate out of the box than a Remington. That's debatable, but I am a Savage fan. The down-side is that there isn't quite the aftermarket support for those brands as there is for Remington (but Savage is getting close). Another advantage to Savage is that it's easier to change barrels on your own and they're less likely to need truing, as they have a floating bolt head. I'm also a big fan of Tikka. They have one of the smoothest/fastest actions ever and are usually tack drivers. The down sides are that they don't have nearly the aftermarket support as the others (but it's getting better) and the most desirable calibers/configurations are no longer imported here. So, getting exactly what you want in a Tikka could end up being a longer, more expensive project than with some of the others.

Depending on the condition and work that's been done to the 5r, as well as the price, you probably won't go wrong there. But, like I said, do some research and handle one if you can, before making the deal.

John
 
The 5r are nice guns. Upper range of your budget though.

Do you need other things like a bipod, bags, scope rings, ect too or is that a different budget?

I went with a savage 10fcp-k and am happy with it. I was torn between a 5r and the savage but am glad I went with the savage. Left me more money for scope rings, bases, and ammo. My savage shoots submoa when I do my part so its a great gun out of the box.
 
if you envision lots of tweaking and upgrading, i think the remington is the way to go. If you are looking to buy a 308 and have it shoot the lights and and don't envision changing a lot I love my FN SPR A1. and mike from tactical coordination has a smoking deal on them. Kind of the middle of the road ( mind you all three of options will most likely be more accurate than you for a while) is a savage. some after market stocks arguably better out of the box than the Remington. So by what floats your boat

I want to upgrade and trick this gun out
remington > savage> fn

i want a 308 that shoots don't envision much modification
fn > SPR > Remington
 
if you envision lots of tweaking and upgrading, i think the remington is the way to go. If you are looking to buy a 308 and have it shoot the lights and and don't envision changing a lot I love my FN SPR A1. and mike from tactical coordination has a smoking deal on them. Kind of the middle of the road ( mind you all three of options will most likely be more accurate than you for a while) is a savage. some after market stocks arguably better out of the box than the Remington. So by what floats your boat

I want to upgrade and trick this gun out
remington > savage> fn

i want a 308 that shoots don't envision much modification
fn > SPR > Remington

I'd like to eventually trick it out... but we're talking at least two years before I have the disposable income to do much of anything.

Who is this Mike you speak of?
 
I would highly recommend a FNH Patrol Bolt Rifle or SPR. You could see if CDNN has any barreled actions in stock anymore. I bought a PBR one a while back from them for $400 and dropped it in a $420 McMillan A3, pillar/glass bedded it, and it shoots GREAT. Probably one of the most consistently accurate rifles I own. I had a CDI bottom metal installed and it works great as well. That's something that can be done down the road as well.
 
I would highly recommend a FNH Patrol Bolt Rifle or SPR. You could see if CDNN has any barreled actions in stock anymore. I bought a PBR one a while back from them for $400 and dropped it in a $420 McMillan A3, pillar/glass bedded it, and it shoots GREAT. Probably one of the most consistently accurate rifles I own. I had a CDI bottom metal installed and it works great as well. That's something that can be done down the road as well.

Looked but didn't see anything.
 
I agree with the Savage for any budget build. I had a few Remington 700's I built up using McRee and AICS chassis'. They shot great but I ended up selling them because they did not shoot any better than my first Savage build. I'm now a diehard Savage junkie because I can have two rifles for the price of one. The Savage is so modular like an AR. Any action/any barrel with tons of stock options. They are extremely accurate out of the box with the stock barrels mainly due to the floating bolt head. When you upgrade to an afermarket barrel it gets even better. Some say they are ugly but that is personal. They do not have good resale value because they are what they are, budget rifles. But for your $800 you can get a 10FP or similar and use the other $400 for upgrading your optics and have no problem shooting sub MOA. You can also use that money to replace the stock or barrel. I found it so easy to change barrels I now search pawn shops and local gun boards for used Savage rifles for donor actions. I can find short action rifles for around $300 in great shape. Toss out the stock and sporter barrel and replace with an nicer stock and slap a Shilen, Criterion, Lothar Walther or McGowen pre-fit on there and it will shoot with the best of them for less than a grand. A barrel vise, wrench and headspace guage will set you back less than $100. I also do Cerakote so I don't even care what they look like because they all end up refinished. :)
 
seems like JHR beat me to it. As a side note, mike is amazing. Cant say enough nice things about the guy. The only two thing that i don't like about the FN is the magazine only holds 4 rounds and they don't make a rock solid stock for them. Otherwise, thay are awesome. If i do my part, I regularly get sub 1/2 MOA groups with handloads.
 
Savage 12 lrp in 260 or 6.5 cm, about 875, sub half moa with handloads out of the box. Add a couple hundred to ur 1200 and pick up a tikka t3 sporter in 260 from euro optics. Mine in 260 will hammer in the .4s.
 
the 5R will be great for your intended range. good solid stock and rifle. I have had 4 Remington 700s, including a 5R, and a savage. the savage just didn't feel the same as far as quality to me, others may have different experiences but I would get hands on multiple models if you can.
 
Just suck it up and save a little bit more to do it right the first time. I recommend going with an option from either Robert Snyder at RW Gunsmithing or Russel at Scout Supply Company (SSC)
 
I just picked up a 5r from a guy here. Appreciate all the comments. The FN SPR was tempting but the trade simplifies things. Thank you all for your help.
 
Action from store: 450
Barrel of choice: 330
LRI truing: 125
LRI Chamber: 200
Bell Carlson stock: 200


$1305 for a custom rifle
 
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Action from store: 450
Barrel of choice: 330
LRI truing: 125
LRI Chamber: 200
Bell Carlson stock: 200


$1305 for a custom rifle

wait until around tax time and you could probably pick up a used 30-06 maybe a little cheaper as well. deer season is gearing up now so I wouldn't bet on it right at the moment. if youre going to replace everything anyway, a used $300 30-06 will give you a nice long action to choose .308 or 30-06 sized cartidges. .270 would work the same as well.

this is the route im planning for my current 30-06.
 
My 700 5r shot 1-1.5" patterns with fgmm,black hills and handloads of 5 different bullets and 3 different powders. My savage 5r, that cost 150 less, shot 155@2925 into 1/2 moa. Had the load inside of 40 rds, the 700 took 350-400 rds before i settled with 1" groups. The Remington was alot prettier though.
 
My 700 5r shot 1-1.5" patterns with fgmm,black hills and handloads of 5 different bullets and 3 different powders. My savage 5r, that cost 150 less, shot 155@2925 into 1/2 moa. Had the load inside of 40 rds, the 700 took 350-400 rds before i settled with 1" groups. The Remington was alot prettier though.

You got a dud then, Savage makes plenty of those as well. I had several 5R's and every one was a 1/2MOA rifle.
 
You got a dud then, Savage makes plenty of those as well. I had several 5R's and every one was a 1/2MOA rifle.

Yep, definetly a dud. My shooting partner also got a dud. Then replaced it and got another dud. Meanwhile mine hammers. Although his was the 5r Tactical (bc stock with 24" bbl) and mine is the SS 5r (hs stock 26" bbl) Don't know what to make of it but he was PISSED and rightfully so. Like I always say, you flip a coin on Remmys when you buy them. I bought a 700 Police .338 Lapua and there was not enough freebore to load to sammi specs. (Rare I know) I think I was in the lands at 3.640 coal while Sammi is 3.680. So off to the smith it went. Another 175$