The windage screw will not budge, even turned it all the way out, then tried the screw, it just kept turning, didnt go that far, it didnt feel right, didnt wanna bust anything. The rubber lid remover didnt help, either. Now the elev, that was a different story, took all of 2 seconds and it was loose, so you guys that think Im weak, come on over and give it a try, you'll see. I'm not going to worry about it, I very seldom have to use the windage knob.