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Rifle Scopes Burris XTR II Rifle Scopes
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I had an XTR of 3-12 flavor around 2006-2007. It was my first entry into a dedicated LR setup. Glass was good (subjective I know), tracked as well as I could, and was the best that I could afford at the time. Was I happy running it? Yes. Would I run one of the new XTRII's? I'll give them a look for sure the next time I'm in the market as I dont ever figure on having more than about $1200 to spend on an optic. I've broken enough cheap scopes to know that you get what you pay for most of the time. However IMO the difference between a $200 and $1200 optic is far greater than the difference between a $1200 and $2400 optic.
You can find a great deal of competition and value in the market Burris is putting these in. I own/have owned Leupy Mk 4's, Bushnell 3-12 FF, Sightron SIII's, and a USO ST-10 all within this price range. They were all good enough to enjoy on a known distance range, and for hunting out to my personal ethical limits. I'm looking forward to some reviews from real people on these as I would love to add another possibility to the lineup for whatever I put together next.
Just my .02
You can find a great deal of competition and value in the market Burris is putting these in. I own/have owned Leupy Mk 4's, Bushnell 3-12 FF, Sightron SIII's, and a USO ST-10 all within this price range. They were all good enough to enjoy on a known distance range, and for hunting out to my personal ethical limits. I'm looking forward to some reviews from real people on these as I would love to add another possibility to the lineup for whatever I put together next.
Just my .02
Somebody please make sure to do a review of these scopes once they get their hands on a production model!
I have every intention of doing just that - all I need is where to buy one.
for a budget scope, those xtr II scopes aren't bad. I used one of the older xtr 1-4x24 scopes a lot on one of my ar rifles, I shot out to 600 yards with it without issue. the glass was good for the price point. it was probably one of my favorite scopes for the price. I havn't used the new ones yet, but from what I have seen they are the same quality level.
So Jay, are you planning on getting the Burris 8-40x50mm XTR II in anytime soon? I'm planning on buying the first one I can find.....
The XTR IIs we played with had very nice tactile clicks and the glass was just fine with no discernable CA or field distortion. The FFP MIL reticle on the 4-20x was definitely usable at 4x and the illumination was even and contained to the reticle.
Having a zero stop is also a nice feature, especially at this price point. Something Steiner definitely rubbed off on these scopes.
We are looking foward to getting ours!
ETA: Burris has gone to a "forever" warranty on their scopes. Second-hand, third-hand, it won't matter: if it's broken, they'll fix it.
Having a zero stop is also a nice feature, especially at this price point. Something Steiner definitely rubbed off on these scopes.
We are looking foward to getting ours!
ETA: Burris has gone to a "forever" warranty on their scopes. Second-hand, third-hand, it won't matter: if it's broken, they'll fix it.
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Agreed. Here is an overview of the facts presented in this thread.
1. Persons who have actual experience with this line are very limited but those that have have been positive.
2. Tikka260 uses both hands whilst being a "real operator" in his grandma's basement.
Pretty sure that about covers it.
I just hope the lock on the door wasn't made anywhere there's coconut trees cos that's gotta be embarassing.
They have always had that warranty.
That pretty much sums it up.
I have emailed Burris 2 times and called 2 times and left 1 voice message in regards to purchasing one of there 4-20 XTR II scopes. No replies yet to any. I hope the scopes are better than CS because apparently they don't answer.
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Maybe try swfa or somewhere that will be selling them and see what they say for a time frame
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It would appear apparent to you they don't answer. Not to me. Timing or something is all I can think of. I've called them twice myself. The first call probably rang twice and it was answered. The second time a little longer, answered, place on a two minute hold and then spoke with someone.
Never emailed them so I have no idea about that.
My guess is, since SHOT and the announcements they made, they've been kinda busy. Even if I couldn't get through when I called, I'd give them a pass at this point.
I have been told they are supposed to ship in March.
I was told the best guesstimate on the 8-40 was end of Feb, early Mar so that would seem accurate. I also keep an eye on "O.P.'s" estimated availability link on the site. I noticed it recently went the wrong way, appearing to be available later than originally expected.
Every time I call it's to the law enforcement sales line. I called 3 more times today it just goes straight to voicemail. Debating on the 4-20x50 Burris XTRII or the Leupold mark6 3-18x44. The Burris would let me save some cash, and it has more features. The Leupold probably has better glass.
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Called CS line and got a hold of someone. Provided me with all the information I needed. Burris still does a 50% discount off of retail price. Rep said they are getting slammed due to the release of the XTRII. Which he stated would be end of February to middle of March.
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Call them, really.
Im not in the military and dont apply for any discounts and have never really heard how much these discounts are. But in my opinion if anybody would apply for a discount shouldnt active duty military be at the top of the list. Shit they should just get free stuff for doing what they do.
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most of the time military gets the discount before LE, but honestly you can get burris stuff at discount on ebay. i'm not one to boycott a company because i don't get a discount. they may not be at the top of the list though.
and keep in mind that only about 10% of the military are hard skill MOS', the rest are safely stuck behind a desk.
and keep in mind that only about 10% of the military are hard skill MOS', the rest are safely stuck behind a desk.
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1.9 million active duty military personnel. I'm assuming you are kidding.
I should have clarified. I'm all for military discounts. I was referring to the "free" comment. Yup that would be a tough pill to swallow.
Vets and active mil should certainly get a discount. State troopers in my area make over $100k, not sure why the LEO discount thing is warranted, IMO. Hey man, you got a good job! Flame away!!!
Some of the agencies near me are lucky to get 13.00 an hour.
Obviously it was an exaggeration on the free comment but you catch my drift.
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Anyone know what size rings are needed to mount this scope on top of a seekins base ?
30mm
I'm pretty sure the new line for Burris is 34mm
I mean how high do the rings need to be. Low, Med, or High. It's a 34mm tube.
Depends on your barrel contour. Would be nice to know the actual outside dimension of the objective bell.
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I stand corrected, only one is 30mm, the others are 34.
It depends on the barrel contour and the objective diameter.
So nobody catch how the eye-relief on the entire line of XTR II scopes changes 0.75" from low to high magnification? No matter how good the glass or how great a value these represent, that shifting eye-relief renders these scopes unusable (for me at least) on a precision set-up.
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I think the eye relief is between those two number throughout the magnification range. It is a "-" and not a "/".
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I know. What I'm saying is that you'll have to creep up or slide back on your stock as you go up or down the magnification range.
More power to you if you can adapt yourself to shooting with a variable cheek weld. I don't possess that particular skillset.
Let me reword it another way. The range isn't 3.25" on 5x and 4" on 25x. The eye relief will be in between the two or put another way, it gives you .75" of play or forgivinness of eye relief. The bigger the range the more forgiveness you have. You want more eye relief forgiveness than less or a
Larger window not smaller.
Larger window not smaller.
No, the eye-relief is not a usable range that remains constant and available somewhere between the two figures. If these scopes follow convention, the eye-relief will be smallest (~3.5”) at highest magnification and largest (~4.25) at lowest magnification. As you crank up the magnification, the eye-relief will get shorter putting you closer to the scope. As you turn the magnification down, the eye-relief gets longer.
Where this becomes an inconvenience is when you have to go up or down the magnification scale while you’re behind the scope. Say you have the 4-20X. You'll be using the scope mostly at high magnification so you mount the scope and make your adjustments with it cranked up to 20x. Tighten everything down and you find yourself at the optimal eye-relief of 3.5”. Everything will be fine if you stay at max. power (that is to say that your stock-weld will be the same every time that you put the gun in your shoulder because the eye-relief hasn't changed), but now you find that you need to turn the scope's magnification down to 4X because you’ve got some movers up close. That eye-relief is not now somewhere in the range of 3.5" and 4.25" but is at 4.25". Where your cheek sat on the stock at the high-mag. perfect eye-relief of 3.5" now puts you 0.75" too close to the scope to view through the eye-piece without any darkening ("scope-shadow"). To get that perfect sight-picture back, you will have to slide your head back away from the eye-piece that extra 0.75" to 4.25”, all the while keeping the butt of the gun in contact with your shoulder. That would be in no way conducive to consistency.
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i like the looks of these and i have liked my xtr 312 and xtr416 gen 1 scopes as well i thought they were comparable to my mark 4. they track very well and had good glass and expect xtr II to be the same. I am going to put one on my aac-sd and head to the fifteen yard line. when i get comfortable with my junk i will head back to the fifty.
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Does anyone have one of these in hand yet? I just ordered the 3-15 with my fingers crossed that it's actually half as good as it looks.
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