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I have a 17 Recon Rubicon. I should have bought one sooner. Does everything I need it to and then some. Broke its cherry on a 2 day shooting trip.
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So all you current owners, are they reliable? or do they have major problems as the all wise internet says? I know my experience with them was bad, but i give my TJ a pass cause it was used and dealership was too stupid or lazy to fix it. I owned it for 6 moths and it spent 3 in the shop. I got to know the tow truck drivers pretty well. But it was the most fun I ever had in a vehicle.
*Didn't read all the responses so I'm sorry if I'm repeating info.
I've owned 2 Wranglers. Both built to rock crawl. One ending up w/ 37" tires and Currie custom 9" axles.
My advice based one your needs: Get the four door. The SWB really is shitty to drive. It's really the biggest drawback to drivability in a Jeep. Not sure if they still offer the two door LWB version or not. Get the Rubicon package. It's the shit unless you need to get into some gnarly rock crawling it will do great in just about every environment and I prefer the "glad to have it and not need it club" than the alternative. It will also have better resale value and interest by buyers.
I've owned 2 Wranglers. Both built to rock crawl. One ending up w/ 37" tires and Currie custom 9" axles.
My advice based one your needs: Get the four door. The SWB really is shitty to drive. It's really the biggest drawback to drivability in a Jeep. Not sure if they still offer the two door LWB version or not. Get the Rubicon package. It's the shit unless you need to get into some gnarly rock crawling it will do great in just about every environment and I prefer the "glad to have it and not need it club" than the alternative. It will also have better resale value and interest by buyers.
Will my two cents to this thread. The Mrs bought a 2015 JK 2 door. T top for her Summer driving which she loves. Lots of accessories so she would be happy. All was well till about 33k miles. One of the heads was defective. That was replaced under warranty A week later the radiator split. That was not under warranty & cost a little over $700.00. Following week, yes the other head needed replacement. Under warranty. Still not done! Everything was fine for about a month & surprise, valve tappets needed replacement.
This Jeep has more open heart surgery than any cigarette smoker I know of.
Maxwell
This Jeep has more open heart surgery than any cigarette smoker I know of.
Maxwell
Well, got a great deal on an LWB... new 2018. The 19's are coming in... Manual Trans. Soft top. Four door.
If it sucks... you'll read it here first. But I have a soft spot for Jeeps. We'll see if it lives up!
Cheers,
Sirhr
If it sucks... you'll read it here first. But I have a soft spot for Jeeps. We'll see if it lives up!
Cheers,
Sirhr
They're fun as hell.
Have fun Sir!
Have fun Sir!
The things I do to my old Jeep, I could never dream of doing it to a new one. I sure love how they look though. Just too rich for my blood. Keep us updated.
We want pictures!
What color is your Wrangler?
Toyota owner. Wouldn't own a Jeep with your mouth.
Unlike you, I like them all. Nice rig.
I like anything with a motor and wheels.
I don’t fanboy. I like Vigina too much....
I like Toyotas too.
Supercharged, ARB air locker, Toytec Boss coilovers, Airbags, Warn M8000, Satoshi grill, aluminum skids,
Did all the mods and installs.
You?
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Sweet rig!
What trail is that?
Full width kit with a GM Dana 60 front, ported hydro assist steering, dual cases with 5:1 in the rear case, 5.13s in the axles with spools, four link on coils suspension in the rear and one ton brakes, all done by me. Of course, I've also built a few rock crawler chassis as well as an Ultra 4 racer that I was co dog on and several show trucks, one of which was in Four Wheeler magazine. I might know a bit about 4wds. Here is a few before the full width conversion.
Black Sheep in Clayton Oklahoma
I looove those!!
Sorry guys, meant mpg not mph.. 0-60 In a quick 16.58 seconds! But it sat 11 people no complaints
I won't pick it up until next weekend at best. It's at a dealer outside Boston where I bought my Ram 3500. Bought it by phone.. But good dealer, good salesman who I've dealt with for year.
This is the 'stock' picture:
I don't plan on doing any customizing... But I'll put 'real' tires on. Anyone want a good deal on a set of four barely-used factory suburban-side-street-ready Jeep tires?
Cheers, Sirhr
About 15 years ago I started a off road company. Rocky Mountain Off Road. A few years in another business I began started to really take off so I moved on. The plaque on top of the frame is 1st place for COHVCO show a few years earlier for the same Jeep but another iteration.
http://www.cohvco.org
http://www.cohvco.org
Dude. Sign me up! I want to do some Colorado trails. I’m in Cheyenne.
These pics were taken while filming in Moab for Four Wheeler TV with Poison Spyder Customs when Clifton Slay was till the owner. They showed my roll in addition to some other footage.
https://www.motortrendondemand.com/show/four-wheeler-tv/42024772/
Season, Episode 4.
Upper Proving Grounds. Now closed.
https://www.motortrendondemand.com/show/four-wheeler-tv/42024772/
Season, Episode 4.
Upper Proving Grounds. Now closed.
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I do more adventure exploring than full rock crawling.
I did to the Hells Revenge with Lions Back on an XR650 R before it was closed.
I love Moab! It’s like Disneyland for men!
I did to the Hells Revenge with Lions Back on an XR650 R before it was closed.
I love Moab! It’s like Disneyland for men!
https://www.motortrendondemand.com/show/four-wheeler-tv/42024772/
I think it's Season 1, Episode 4. I think that's the yellow Toyota in the pic above.
I think it's Season 1, Episode 4. I think that's the yellow Toyota in the pic above.
If you sign up for the 'free trial' and you can watch it here.
https://www.motortrendondemand.com/detail/easter-jeep-safari/0_jzysg10a/
https://www.motortrendondemand.com/detail/easter-jeep-safari/0_jzysg10a/
My current rig is a Black 2018 JK 2 door Sahara. Love it!!!
My wife had a 2012 JK. She loved it and thought she was badass driving it. We had a 3.5" lift in it with 35" tires. It then developed the "death wobble". Brought it to the a good 4 wheel place and cost about $3500 in work to figure out what caused it. Also the radiator shit the bed at that time, so another $1000 to get a good aftermarket. Three years and lots of fun but not worth the cash in my opinion. She now drive a 4Runner TRD Off road and not looking back.
Death wobble is generally caused by not enough caster angle due to trying to keep the front driveshaft from too much angle/binding. It is worsened by a bad wheel balance. Adding an extra steering stabilizer is not a fix but a bandaid that will eventually reveal itself as the stabilizers wear out prematurely due to the wobble issue. $3500 seems excessive to find a death wobble problem as any good 4 wheel drive shop should fully understand, better than I, death wobble and what causes it and how to fix it. It's literally an alignment issue and since camber is fixed on a Wrangler, the only adjustment is toe and caster.
Can you get adjustable lower control arms to add camber? My Jeep is 3” on stock control arms. No death wobble, but it seems to dart around in the lane a lot. I had A professional alignment, and that helped a lot. But it still seems to dart.
Lol, yeah. My first straight axle since my dads 78 blazer I drove in 96. It’s not bad really... just squirly
How much difference is there between the drag link and track bar? If the angles are off, you will exerience increased bump steer. That or worn track bar bushings. Could explain the darting. Here's a link that discusses it.
https://www.rme4x4.com/threads/track-bar-vs-drag-link-geometry.102251/
I have no idea.... lol. I’m a Jeep newb.
I edited the original post to include a link. Read through it some and you'll get what I'm asking.
EVERY Jeep owner w/ a built rig said this when they bought theirs.
Well, it's not like ordering a set of seat covers... and some glass sliders to replace the plastic half-door window tops and getting a locking gun box and, well, just a small rifle rack and a couple of stickers, and a spare tire cover....
Oh goddamnit....
Cheers,
Sirhr
Yes, that's about the only way to adjust camber besides the special washer from the factory. That's not usually enough for a lift much more than 2". Darting sounds like it's not tracking well and adding camber should help.
They added the stabilizer, when that didn't fix it, they said well the tire have 35k on them could be an issue... And so on. My wife really liked driving around in a jeep so we kept trying. She doesn't bitch when I spend money on guns, so I couldn't not try to get it fixed. It just snowballed.
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