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The Paradises- South of the US - Nicaragua Edition

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Interesting read in LINK

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/05/a-month-of-anti-government-protest-in-nicaragua/561632/





The Iran Contra thing was bad for the US... and LA.... CIA allowing Cocaine to be flown into to US....

Sandinistas are having problems

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Wow. Isn’t it strange how the university students are pro-liberty/anti-communist in a country with actual experience living under the boot of communists? Here the students are anti-liberty/pro-communist.

There’s no accommodating or reasoning with communists. You have to shoot them all in the brain pan. Hopefully they beg for their lives like that cowardly, twisted bitch Guvera. Turns out he was only a badass when murdering unarmed civilians.
 
What a total FUBAR. I spent a week or so in NIcaragua in the mid 90's. Chamorro had been legally elected president but Ortega still owned the show. Learned a lot about what really went down. Like most people, the Nicaraguan people are really nice and kind people. Like most of us, they are getting a huge fucking by the gub'mint. I stayed a couple days around Managua and the rest up in and around Esteli near the northern border where most of the war took place. The difference in attitude was noticeable. In Managua the folks were openly friendly and warm. In the north they were far more reserved and cautious, though polite.

I was beat so spent the extra bucks and stayed at The Hotel Managua right across the street from the International airport.. After supper I got into a conversation with the bartender. The subject turned to politics and after several stiff drinks I asked him..."What type of government is in Nicaragua? Democratic, socialist, or communist.?" You could have heard a pin drop. The bartender turned and asked his boss..."What type of government do we have, democratic, socialist, or communist?" The boss looks around and cautiously says"democratic". But no one much wanted to chat with me after that so I went to bed. Woke up in the middle of the night and realized my fuck up talking politics in a communist country I still had to drive out of. I considered walking across the street and getting on a plane but I didnt want to lose my truck.

When I was driving from Managua north I got lost and stopped an old guy at a bus stop to ask directions. He told me he was going that way and if Id give him a ride he'd show me the way. He seemed really nervous and wouldnt talk much. I happened to look in my mirror and saw why. I had on an olive drab military cut shirt and a pair of Baush and Lomb Aviator sunglasses...I looked like an American helicopter pilot. I took off my glasses and looked in his eyes and said in Spanish "Im glad our countries are at peace now so we can be friends". The old guy just smiled and started jabbering about everything, told me about his family, his cows and hogs, and invited me to come stay with at his place if I ever came back. I ended up spending several days in Esteli. Id go out to the Zocolo to read and all the younger men would come over to talk and practice their English. Like I said they were polite but reserved, still much kinder than I would have been had their country done to mine what my country did to theirs.

The US funded their efforts with the cocaine, the Sandinista's by shipping huge amounts of cannabis grown in the remote eastern jungles. My understanding is that Ortega didnt really want to align with anyone and essentially wanted to go socialist, The US feared the commies and pushed him into the Cuban/Russian laps. Once turned its hard to retreat. Now he's trying to sell a canal to the Chinese. Power to the people of Nicaragua.
 
Spent a couple of weeks in Costa Rica and they don’t have a high opinion of the people from Nicuagra. Nicuagras southern border is probably more chill due to proximity. Costa Rica has a saying, “Pura Vida”, pure life and one of the more laid back countries I’ve ever been to. I speak Spanish and it was cool to hang out with the locals and eat world class pineapple. Beautiful country and would go back in a heartbeat?
 
Spent a couple of weeks in Costa Rica and they don’t have a high opinion of the people from Nicuagra. Nicuagras southern border is probably more chill due to proximity. Costa Rica has a saying, “Pura Vida”, pure life and one of the more laid back countries I’ve ever been to. I speak Spanish and it was cool to hang out with the locals and eat world class pineapple. Beautiful country and would go back in a heartbeat?

It's "Nicaragua." And Costa Ricans are some of the most insufferable xenophobes in Central America, unless you're dropping dollars all over the place. It's historical fact that nicas get treated like shit by most ticos.
 
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It's "Nicaragua." And Costa Ricans are some of the most insufferable xenophobes in Central America, unless you're dropping dollars all over the place. It's historical fact that nicas get treated like shit by most ticos.

I think youve got me on ignore, and thats ok, but I must agree. While an incredibly beautiful country, with huge natural resource, they are arrogant bastards. At least around the cities and tourist traps/areas, As you say, only interested in the $$$. I spent some time in the farming communities of the Nicoyan Peninsula farming areas and they are just down to earth campesinos. Get to the beach and a total turn around...."Give me the money and dont wrinkle the sheets.

And some of the worst pollution in CA. They have a strong economy so lots of new cars and buses but I think no one ever taught them to change the oil. Every car, truck, or bus in the country that was over 3 years old spewed obnoxious fumes.
 
It's "Nicaragua." And Costa Ricans are some of the most insufferable xenophobes in Central America, unless you're dropping dollars all over the place. It's historical fact that nicas get treated like shit by most ticos.

Kinda butchered that one didn’t I?? That was not my experience. Had an extended conversation with a pineapple picker with no expectation of money exchanging hands and he was nothing but pleasant. That was my general experience chatting with the locals. Purposely talked to folks off of the beaten path to get a sense of my surroundings. What are you basing your opinion on? Genuinely curious and not being confrontational.
 
Nobody goes to Costa Rica for pineapple.

Coffee?? Had heard that it was a huge drug corridor and that kidnapping was common from an oil worker state side which is why I was trying to get a sense of my surroundings. The pineapple is world class brother? Ruined me for pineapple at the store in Az for sure?
 
Kinda butchered that one didn’t I?? That was not my experience. Had an extended conversation with a pineapple picker with no expectation of money exchanging hands and he was nothing but pleasant. That was my general experience chatting with the locals. Purposely talked to folks off of the beaten path to get a sense of my surroundings. What are you basing your opinion on? Genuinely curious and not being confrontational.

30+ years of dealing with that part of the world. I'm not the only one to have observed this.

https://panampost.com/andrew-woodbu...ats-the-children-of-xenophobia-in-costa-rica/
 
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30+ years of dealing with that part of the world. I'm not the only one to have observed this.

https://panampost.com/andrew-woodbu...ats-the-children-of-xenophobia-in-costa-rica/

Interesting read. Having studied the history of the region, I think some of it, the 'Whiteness' aspect comes form another point as well. South of El Salvador, the Mayan nation petered out into just scattered tribes along the trade route from South America, north to the Mayan and later Aztec, empires. They had no rich history to stand on so when the Europeans 'discovered Costa Rica' in the 40's and 50's and called it the Switzerland of Central America, and how wonderful it was, they had no centuries old social network and it went to their heads. Noses went up in the air, the beautiful humility of the indigenous folks went out the window, and the money became the thing. A shame as it is a beautiful place.
 
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