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Spenser Rapone Communist
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Okay Mr. Conscientious Objector (the guy in the story), very few people “like” war.
I guess I’ve never understood why someone feels that if they don’t “like” war that somehow socialism/communism is the happy place they believe exists.
Pretty sure plenty of wars were fought by communist or socialist countries.......you’re just poorer and more poorly equipped when you fight them.
My question to the West Point grad would be “why even go through West Point if you have an issue with the ‘imperialistic’ United States?”
See, most pro-communism or pro-socialism folks here in America are royal pussies. It’s easy to opine about the beauties of socialism/communism under the safeties of our constitutional republic. They just haven’t figured out that if they had their way, their ability to say/do as they please is no longer guaranteed.
I guess I’ve never understood why someone feels that if they don’t “like” war that somehow socialism/communism is the happy place they believe exists.
Pretty sure plenty of wars were fought by communist or socialist countries.......you’re just poorer and more poorly equipped when you fight them.
My question to the West Point grad would be “why even go through West Point if you have an issue with the ‘imperialistic’ United States?”
See, most pro-communism or pro-socialism folks here in America are royal pussies. It’s easy to opine about the beauties of socialism/communism under the safeties of our constitutional republic. They just haven’t figured out that if they had their way, their ability to say/do as they please is no longer guaranteed.
The Academies need to be shut down, the are leftist anti American and anti Constitutional indoctrination camps that breed leftist cowards.
I invite him to pack his shit and move to North Korea.
He got an OTH, unfortunately probably the best option for the Army to punish him. He deserves a BCD for sure, the military judicial system is full of lawyer games though.
And the first step to correct the academies is to remove the political appointments that potential students receive. Needs to be a massive screening every year, like an indoc from hell, not a "who knows who" game.
And the first step to correct the academies is to remove the political appointments that potential students receive. Needs to be a massive screening every year, like an indoc from hell, not a "who knows who" game.
I do like how they use socialism and communism interchangeably. They are in-fact the same thing, and only produce oligarchy.
Ironically (or not) if a second lieutenant wrote “Capitalism will win”, and wore a George Washington t-shirt under his uniform in a communist country they would just take him out back and shoot him.
When I see fuktards like Rapone and Fanning I think of thrice "wounded", "Hero of the Swift Boats", Lt. John Kerry. A leftist fuck who would do anything for political power, and started cultivating his rise in politics at a creepily early age (like the Clintons).
He was a war hero when it served him, a protesting, Winter Soldier slanderer when it served him, and back to a war hero when that served him again.
All these leftists are total zeros and would sell their family down the river to advance their selfish objectives. Honestly, I get mad when college kids spew communism (evil nonsense), but to see a uniformed soldier doing just makes my blood boil! What a total piece of shit.
Ironically (or not) if a second lieutenant wrote “Capitalism will win”, and wore a George Washington t-shirt under his uniform in a communist country they would just take him out back and shoot him.
When I see fuktards like Rapone and Fanning I think of thrice "wounded", "Hero of the Swift Boats", Lt. John Kerry. A leftist fuck who would do anything for political power, and started cultivating his rise in politics at a creepily early age (like the Clintons).
He was a war hero when it served him, a protesting, Winter Soldier slanderer when it served him, and back to a war hero when that served him again.
All these leftists are total zeros and would sell their family down the river to advance their selfish objectives. Honestly, I get mad when college kids spew communism (evil nonsense), but to see a uniformed soldier doing just makes my blood boil! What a total piece of shit.
You're always going to have a couple outliers and fringe idealists, regardless of what is done to prevent it. In fourteen years active, I of course served with more than a couple academy grads, they were fine officers through and through, but you could tell on some they were more legacy or otherwise well connected and less qualified to be in the position they held.
I don't feel the academies are a complete wash, I'm all for having a potential career officer given a military based education from the get-go. It's the turds who make it through the system that need to be eliminated more efficiently. Rapone is a glaring case where he should have NEVER been allowed to graduate and receive a commission, yet he did because of politics.
Remove the politics and fuck-fuck games, remember that those subject to the UCMJ do NOT have full rights of "Free Speech", and that the patriotism of those in uniform is not an option or a personal choice, it's a mandate. Socially experiment in the Peace Corps, not the officer corps.
Fuck, '09-'17 sure fucked up the military...
I don't feel the academies are a complete wash, I'm all for having a potential career officer given a military based education from the get-go. It's the turds who make it through the system that need to be eliminated more efficiently. Rapone is a glaring case where he should have NEVER been allowed to graduate and receive a commission, yet he did because of politics.
Remove the politics and fuck-fuck games, remember that those subject to the UCMJ do NOT have full rights of "Free Speech", and that the patriotism of those in uniform is not an option or a personal choice, it's a mandate. Socially experiment in the Peace Corps, not the officer corps.
Fuck, '09-'17 sure fucked up the military...
https://www.armywtfmoments.com/2017...gation-previously-kicked-out-of-army-rangers/
Looks like the rangers were a lot smarter than the cadidiots.
Looks like the rangers were a lot smarter than the cadidiots.
OCS and ROTC are better officers in my experience. 50/50 on academy, but cant trust any of them as they are beholden to the two parties that appointed them.
I agree. I served with two zeros who were from The Citadel who get top marks from me. Good officers and great guys as well. Although, the worst one I ever came into contact with was actually an ROTC officer. He was a safety Nazi in the extreme, and a fucking democrat. 100% of the enlisted loathed his ass. When stories are told of "fragging" officers this idiot is who comes to mind.
These modern idiots who love Communists are such fools.
The guy wants to "protest" his dislike of war so he wears a Che shirt, under his uniform in a manner suggestive of him being a disguised enemy soldier.
The Che guy was a bloodthirsty monster who couldn't get enough killing and his fellow communists ran him out because he was just insane about non stop brutal killing and he continued that way till he finally got put down like the rabid dog he was.
So you supposedly "Protest war" and then say you idolize someone who was so insanely bloodthirsty that even the communists wanted him gone?
Real genius there.
The guy wants to "protest" his dislike of war so he wears a Che shirt, under his uniform in a manner suggestive of him being a disguised enemy soldier.
The Che guy was a bloodthirsty monster who couldn't get enough killing and his fellow communists ran him out because he was just insane about non stop brutal killing and he continued that way till he finally got put down like the rabid dog he was.
So you supposedly "Protest war" and then say you idolize someone who was so insanely bloodthirsty that even the communists wanted him gone?
Real genius there.
He should of got a BCD, hopefully not just a GD, I'd hate to think he could get any benefits at all. And that fucker this turd brains dick he's been sucking ,who got him in West Point ,ought to get the boot as well from whatever shithole he hides under. Alan snack bar was his name right?
This shit stain officer was ROTC. https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-yabut-88616961/
You might remember him from here: https://heavy.com/news/2018/06/joshua-yabut/
The system is not perfect, but IMHO, the imperfections are not about an Imperialist America, but about the simple fact that a few rotten apples will always show up when you open the barrel, given a little time to ferment (foment?). That's just the way nature works. They system is not perfect simply because no system is perfect if it depends upon the machinations of simple mortals.
The total logical disconnect occurs when someone who objects to war and our approach to it turns instead to preaching the wonders of socialist communism; as if preaching that difference solved all of their moral and ethical problems. I'd love to see them embrace their choice with true commitment, rather than simply paying self serving lip service.
Most likely, they would end up pining for the capitalist imperial frying pan whilst embedding themselves deeply within the socialist communism fire.
Sorta like getting S-Bird Hogg all fired up on a trip down to below the US/Mex border to preach on the brilliant successes of Mexico's total gun control.
I'd give him three days on this mortal strand, and that's including two days to completely cool down to ambient temperature. Same for Rapone in NoKo.
Greg
The total logical disconnect occurs when someone who objects to war and our approach to it turns instead to preaching the wonders of socialist communism; as if preaching that difference solved all of their moral and ethical problems. I'd love to see them embrace their choice with true commitment, rather than simply paying self serving lip service.
Most likely, they would end up pining for the capitalist imperial frying pan whilst embedding themselves deeply within the socialist communism fire.
Sorta like getting S-Bird Hogg all fired up on a trip down to below the US/Mex border to preach on the brilliant successes of Mexico's total gun control.
I'd give him three days on this mortal strand, and that's including two days to completely cool down to ambient temperature. Same for Rapone in NoKo.
Greg
So should have Bergdahl, at least he took a full on Dishonorable and reduction to E-1, but I still don't understand how he got off with zero prison time. I am only slightly comfortable in that he is no longer going to cost the American taxpayer anything further for his treason.
A few friends and family who have experience with multiple commissioning sources (relevantly, one was an OCS grad who worked at USMA and another was a USMA grad) are very hostile to service academies at least for the Army. It’s become a tool to move the military left. In fairness though more than half leave after the end of their obligation, more than other sources.
What does an other than dishonorable mean in terms of record for a civilian?
Oh, what’s a BCD?
Five levels of discharge: Honorable, General, General under less than honorable conditions (OTH), Bad Conduct Discharge (Special or higher court martial conviction), Dishonorable (General court martial conviction)
The last two are the punitive ones, which also remove all veteran benefits. So, this clown gets to go to the VA for treatment. He won't get a pension or anything like that, it's also difficult getting employment from most businesses with an OTH.
Yes it does, but you most likely completely deserve it. If you get kicked out of the military it’s a general discharge or an OTH (like for drugs) for the vast majority of fireable transgressions. End your carrear, no retirement, no benefits, but you’re out and free to pursue civilian life. This is handled at the command level. A military court generally doesn’t convene, and the judgement is made by the commanding officer.
A BCD or DHD is for a very serious crime in which you’ve been convicted in a military court. It’s no different from being a convicted felon, only you’ve made a bunch of additional oaths you’ve broken, so I would argue it’s even more severe. This is like a court case with lawyers, judges, and juries. The consequences are equally or more severe.
I think it’s absolutely right and proper that these things would dog a person for life in a way that I really don’t for a regular felon. When you sign that paper and take your oath you are separating yourself from everyone else, and declaring that you hold yourself to a much higher standard. It is one of service. Betray that trust and that oath, and I think you should suffer...a lot.
I use to 100+% agree with your last statement but in the past 20 years or so I think our Mil Justice system has become infected iwt the same PC bullshit that the civilian justice system has become. Its weaponized against warfighters, its also PC to the extreme. Only saving grace is the accused can still oick a jury of his peers, i.e. enlisted people.
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