Why are Liberals for abortion?

So you rather people learn the lesson after it's too late?

Call me crazy but that's not the smartest way to go through life. Kids are dumb and make mistakes, it's part of growing up. It's also part parenting. All the parenting in the world is not going to stop kids from fucking, the same as making booze or drugs illegal is going to stop people from using them.

You have to be pragmatic and realistic.
 
So you rather people learn the lesson after it's too late?

Call me crazy but that's not the smartest way to go through life. Kids are dumb and make mistakes, it's part of growing up. It's also part parenting. All the parenting in the world is not going to stop kids from fucking, the same as making booze or drugs illegal is going to stop people from using them.

You have to be pragmatic and realistic.
If they didn't know fucking is the number one cause of babies that's on them.
Funny you mention booze and drugs as these used illicitly have penalties.
Also how much do these cost society?
The argument that "we", the all knowing and authority, get to make the decisions on who has a right to live leads down a slippery slope.
I've watched over many decades as we send "aide" to Africa and they still are starving.
They don't need aide as much as the education that they are incapable of supporting 12 children.
Creating a "band aide" of killing them off quicker isn't a cure to the problem.
This is the same analogy to the problems in the US.
Until the root of the problem is finally recognized we'll get more of the same.
Planned Parenthood is a disguise for a tax/money eating machine.

R
 
Expecting kids to be judicous decision makers is nieve. 2 million years of instinct and hormones means they are going to fuck. They have for the last 2 mil years and will for the next 2 mil years unless you want to lock everyone in a cage until they are 18.

So if they get knocked up we have the choice to ruin 2 or more lives or just 1. Abortion is in the individual and societies best interest. Less shitbirds and welfare leaches. Also less young adults with fucked up lives because they couldn't get a decent education and work experience due to raising kids they don't want, and are probably shitty parents who end up raising another generation of fucking retards who will do the same thing.

And back to square one, unless you personally are going to own that burden and cost, then you don't get a single fucking say.

Pay up or shutup.

This theoretical utopian world of stoic and wise decision makers some of you pretend we live in is just that.
 
You all are over thinking it, like I explained up top, the left simply hates non whites, and jews, they hate them enough to come up with this american version of the final solution, eugenics were copied by the actual Nazis to eliminate the Jews an any other non desirable, In the USA its the Blacks, the Jews and any other non desirable, then its going to be the big nut, Conservatives,Constitutionalists and any individualist thinker.

All this other shit you all are blabbering about is just fog and noise to mask what they originally intended and continue to do this very day.

If you are a gun owning conservative or Constitutionalist you really should be a warrior for freedom of our fellow black citizens on every front, especially education in teh founding documents. They have been and are the canary and a petrie dish for what the left can get away with in our country. When I say left I mean 100% of the dem party and 90% of the repub party. They are that EVIL, to think otherwise will make you amongst the first of their future victims.

We will either all be free of the chains or we will all be dead or slaves
 
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So the left wants to kill off their strongest voter bases? Blacks and Jews are the most left voting segments of society. The left has been importing brown people and Muslims and is fighting to keep that up.

So your saying despite all this the left is trying to kill off all their current and future voters?


I'll have a Coke then.
 
They are , they aint trying shit, they are doing it.

So the left wants to kill off their strongest voter bases? Blacks and Jews are the most left voting segments of society. The left has been importing brown people and Muslims and is fighting to keep that up.

So your saying despite all this the left is trying to kill off all their current and future voters?


I'll have a Coke then.
 
Let me guess, me citing real stats is being biased and a racist. You are an idiot and the worst kind of poster on web boards because you say stupid shit and have no idea why.

"You must have hispanic family or close hispanic friends", really? In order for me to state real data that refutes your retartded viewpoint it MUST be because of friends or family? How about I just do not like idiots that post racist crap and then they try to hide behind data that they just do not understand.

"Butt hurt over facts". You just cannot comprehend how stupid that comment is. You cherry picked parts of the stats to support your myopic viewpoint. The sad thing is that you think you are correct and you are not. Continuing this conversation with you is complete and utter waste of time. Some people are happy to wallow in their ignorance, all the while thinking they know the answers.

You sir are a fool and liar to boot. If the conversation is a waist of your time quit replying to me with bullshit Liberal ass points of view and denying facts you don’t like. I picked Arizona and New Mexico bc they have the most equal mixture of race per their population. I don’t know how dumb you have to be to not understand that. If you don’t like facts quit trolling my post.
 
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Expecting kids to be judicous decision makers is nieve. 2 million years of instinct and hormones means they are going to fuck. They have for the last 2 mil years and will for the next 2 mil years unless you want to lock everyone in a cage until they are 18.

So if they get knocked up we have the choice to ruin 2 or more lives or just 1. Abortion is in the individual and societies best interest. Less shitbirds and welfare leaches. Also less young adults with fucked up lives because they couldn't get a decent education and work experience due to raising kids they don't want, and are probably shitty parents who end up raising another generation of fucking retards who will do the same thing.

And back to square one, unless you personally are going to own that burden and cost, then you don't get a single fucking say.

Pay up or shutup.

This theoretical utopian world of stoic and wise decision makers some of you pretend we live in is just that.
Your dumbass is operating under the delusion it's our responsibility to pay for their children.
This basic idea escapes you.
Your ideas are at the core of socialism.
Collectivism is the ideology you are professing.
"in the individual and societies best interest"
When higher standards are expected from children and even adults you'll find you'll get them.
Echoing your same argument isn't enhancing your argument.

R
 
And how does it work in the real world? Like I said you live in a fairy tale world.

Where the fuck these high standards going to come from. Most adults today are products of shitty parrenting. You can't miricle shit the way you want it.

Moral crusaders like you have been fucking up society for 1000 years. How about you worry about yourself before dictacting how others live.
 
"When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way.". Sun Tzu
So now your enemies are unborn babies? Maybe change from Primus to Pharoah. Would you be as glad as your parents if they had aborted you? Whew! No little Primus prick that will spout off his immorality to others! Or maybe you are just waiting to be aborted? You are still in there? Maybe a little brother got aborted as well? No chance at companionship or learning how to get along with others? My goodness. So sad little slimy, primy didn't get the chance to grow up. Or even grow up with others, due to abortion. Keep flapping those gums...
 
And how does it work in the real world? Like I said you live in a fairy tale world.

Where the fuck these high standards going to come from. Most adults today are products of shitty parrenting. You can't miricle shit the way you want it.

Moral crusaders like you have been fucking up society for 1000 years. How about you worry about yourself before dictacting how others live.
The concept escapes you.
I've walked slowly to the water you'll have none.
I'll not dictate as long as they aren't taking my money to pay for their "mistakes".
You are a walking fucked up contradiction.
You claim I'm dictating how other live when you are signing off on the execution of others.
Go back to the crack pipe........
I'll repeat for the last time these parents and their progeny are a result of fallen standards.
A graph that'll blow your mind:
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Now is there any correlation between Government policies and these dates?............

R
 
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And how does it work in the real world? Like I said you live in a fairy tale world.

Where the fuck these high standards going to come from. Most adults today are products of shitty parrenting. You can't miricle shit the way you want it.

Moral crusaders like you have been fucking up society for 1000 years. How about you worry about yourself before dictacting how others live.
So you admit that you are a product of shitty parenting...the first step towards mortality. Now how about wiping your mind of the perversions that caused you to agree to side with those murdering innocent children. Maybe a mistake...to mankind... never a mistake to God. So even you are a child of God. Not deserving abortion. Unlike those that support abortion by saying that they won't be raised well of it will burden society...I look at it as the new life breathed in to lift us up and hold us responsible. Go ahead and be weak and selfish. Maybe you will be proven right in the end to your own horror.
 
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Of course you will need to stop using the foul language that the weak rely on to make themselves look good. In order to qualify to be like the father that didn't abort you.
 
My questions to y'all:
1. Are contraceptives ok to prevent abortion?
2. Where do the rights of the mother end and the rights of the fetus begin?
3. Why do I often hear people who are against abortion are also against the most effective means to preventing abortions, contraceptives? Is that a media contrived bubble I'm in?
4. Do you feel that making abortions illegal would be another burden on the lower and middle class who will not be able to afford to go to clandestine clinics? The rich and well connected will continue to have abortions like what happens in Argentina.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...miracle-aughter-now-healthy-toddle/861386001/
Earliest premie to date is 21 weeks. If the momma wants to have an abortion before that than go for it because the baby cannot exists, period, without the mother. As soon as someone breaks that record, the bar shifts to that term date.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/...uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant
This is the future and will further strain mankinds balance with the resources on this planet.

To me it's not really about the act of conception/delivery. I am more concerned about: are there resources in place to make this person a productive member of society who can further the human race and our goals (immortality, conquering space, reducing harm) or will the person need to lie, steal, murder, burden others to just exist. Of course people can swing from one side of the spectrum to another but where you are born on the socioeconomic ladder kind of dictates where you end up. Not everyone can be a Ben Carson.

Note: Resources are finite, allocate based on your ideological ideals.

A lot of good points and I become more and more in favor of contraceptives for men. Why should women get all the attention? (Jk)

Have a great thanksgiving with loved ones and be greatful for what we have in this beautiful country of ours.
 
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This is the future and will further strain mankinds balance with the resources on this planet.
Note: Resources are finite, allocate based on your ideological ideals.

Various scare mongers and Eugenicists and others who want dictatorial control over mankind have been trying to peddle that line for over 100 years and have been proven flatly wrong in each and every one of their dire predictions.
You can read older books talking about how supposedly horrible and apocalyptic life would be when the USA reached 300 million people and the world had like 5 billion inhabitants. Then go back further and people predicting mass dying and starvation around 100 million people in this country and a billion or two in the world.

SJWs, Communists, Progressives, Neo Pagan Earth Worshipers and of course One World types love to hype this up, because of course their solution is "Give us control over your lives, your children, your reproduction, your livelihood, and every facet of your life & then of course us being so much wiser and more knowledgeable than you will fix it." Just like the whole Global Cooling / Global Warming / Climate Change scam they pull. It's all about control and power. DON'T fall for it.

Food production has grown way more efficient as technology increased and cheap energy / good science made it much easier to produce more.

As it is now, probably more than half the food produced in the industrialized world is actually thrown away. That is in addition to production not even being driven at full tilt.

In the non industrialized world, food production could be doubled almost right away with the political will / financing to employ modern technology, equipment and methods .

The most realistic estimates show that the planet could support up to in the 15 to 20 billion people range assuming improvements in technology / science as well as a political will to produce food in the quantities needed and also make sure it is all used and not wasted for various price support and control reasons as well as efficiently distributed.

With several hundred years of technological advancement and a bit of social change, you could probably fit 100 billion.

There is plenty of space for the most part for a lot more people, it just looks crowded because you see a few big cities packed full. Even in very "crowded" countries they could probably triple their population by simply putting new cities in wide open places.

There is a lot of really interesting scientific progress being done on food that can be brought to market when the political and social will is there. It may take a few more wars and some famines and food riots and possibly large continental regimes to get it done, but it's all there for the doing if one wishes.

By the time we actually really get to the point where we can't fit any more people on the planet then either we will be in the next ice age and that will take out the population, or we will be heading off this planet across the stars and not worry about it any more. Then you always have wars and disasters which tend to take care of a lot of things on their own.
 
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Various scare mongers and Eugenicists and others who want dictatorial control over mankind have been trying to peddle that line for over 100 years and have been proven flatly wrong in each and every one of their dire predictions.
You can read older books talking about how supposedly horrible and apocalyptic life would be when the USA reached 300 million people and the world had like 5 billion inhabitants. Then go back further and people predicting mass dying and starvation around 100 million people in this country and a billion or two in the world.

SJWs, Communists, Progressives, Neo Pagan Earth Worshipers and of course One World types love to hype this up, because of course their solution is "Give us control over your lives, your children, your reproduction, your livelihood, and every facet of your life & then of course us being so much wiser and more knowledgeable than you will fix it." Just like the whole Global Cooling / Global Warming / Climate Change scam they pull. It's all about control and power. DON'T fall for it.

Food production has grown way more efficient as technology increased and cheap energy / good science made it much easier to produce more.

As it is now, probably more than half the food produced in the industrialized world is actually thrown away. That is in addition to production not even being driven at full tilt.

In the non industrialized world, food production could be doubled almost right away with the political will / financing to employ modern technology, equipment and methods .

The most realistic estimates show that the planet could support up to in the 15 to 20 billion people range assuming improvements in technology / science as well as a political will to produce food in the quantities needed and also make sure it is all used and not wasted for various price support and control reasons as well as efficiently distributed.

With several hundred years of technological advancement and a bit of social change, you could probably fit 100 billion.

There is plenty of space for the most part for a lot more people, it just looks crowded because you see a few big cities packed full. Even in very "crowded" countries they could probably triple their population by simply putting new cities in wide open places.

There is a lot of really interesting scientific progress being done on food that can be brought to market when the political and social will is there. It may take a few more wars and some famines and food riots and possibly large continental regimes to get it done, but it's all there for the doing if one wishes.

By the time we actually really get to the point where we can't fit any more people on the planet then either we will be in the next ice age and that will take out the population, or we will be heading off this planet across the stars and not worry about it any more. Then you always have wars and disasters which tend to take care of a lot of things on their own.
Much truth.
Political will...
They purposely keep the masses hungry to insure lack of self reliance.
If one didn't "need" so many things what good would the government be?

R