Thanks for the replies. I measured the ammo cases on a batch of 7.62x51 that I have, and as near as I can measure it, the shoulder length appears to be a couple thousandths longer than the .308 Win specs given in my old Speer reloading manual. The end result is that I have a tighter-than-usual .308 Win bolt gun that really can't shoot this ammo. But, by all indications, it should shoot OK in a 7.62x51 semi-auto gun. Too bad. It's match ammo, and I really wanted to see how this stuff shot in the bolt gun. I'll just save it for my HK91.