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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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So a question for you pros:
How bad ass were the sailors that rounded the horn in 17th and 18th century "ships"?

Well, if they rounded the horn in the same conditions we experienced, they would have died. My guess is that ships of that time would avoid that route in the winter as much as possible. Folks still take small sailboats and tall masted ships around the horn every year. Not something I would look forward to doing but people find their adrenaline rush in their own way I suppose.
 
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he TAP 150 had a reinforced frame, a 146 cm³ single cylinder, two-stroke engine and could develop a maximum speed of 40 miles per hour. The TAP was equipped with an M20, a light anti-armour cannon, which could penetrate an armor with 100 mm thickness, thanks to the HEAT warhead attached to it. The Vespa was supposed to serve only as a transport method for the cannon, although it was possible to fire the gun while mounted on the scooter.
This artillery was not very useful against the tanks in the Indochine conflict but proved itself as quite useful against lightly armored targets in the Algerian War. The TAP was constructed to be dropped in pairs from a plane with a parachute. The bikes were mounted on palettes and protected with haystacks. One of the scooters carried the cannon, while the other carried the ammo, so they were operated by two men teams. The TAP 150 was ready to be used instantly, and due to its mobility, it was a very effective weapon. A trailer carrying additional items was often attached to the moped, and it also had a tripod for the cannon. The Vespa TAP 150’s construction was very cheap, with an estimated cost of 500$, so it was the perfect weapon for anti-guerilla warfare.
 
I'm just a recreational boater, never sailed so much as a boogie board, but am fascinated by the age of sail.

So a question for you pros:
How bad ass were the sailors that rounded the horn in 17th and 18th century "ships"?

Well, if they rounded the horn in the same conditions we experienced, they would have died. My guess is that ships of that time would avoid that route in the winter as much as possible. Folks still take small sailboats and tall masted ships around the horn every year. Not something I would look forward to doing but people find their adrenaline rush in their own way I suppose.

True dat. More like how lucky.
In bad weather it would be fully puckering in a modern sailboat, but if it can survive a knockdown you can make passage. That said, I would only attempt it with clear skies and a steady barometer.

In one of those piggy, shit-rigs, with the square sails (beautiful but really a horrible design) it would just be the luck of the draw that you didn't get hit by a rogue wave, or the helmsman was able to keep the bow pointed into the seas. Just get a little off, and you could be pushed broadside and then it's over. Go the other way and your sails will back, masts break, and then it's over as well.

When you see paintings of tall ships rounding The Horn, or the Straights of Magellan you always see them at 10% sail rigged for storm, and only enough sail to make way and keep pointed into the seas. With a great captain and an experienced crew there's probably only a middlin' chance to make it.
 
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he TAP 150 had a reinforced frame, a 146 cm³ single cylinder, two-stroke engine and could develop a maximum speed of 40 miles per hour. The TAP was equipped with an M20, a light anti-armour cannon, which could penetrate an armor with 100 mm thickness, thanks to the HEAT warhead attached to it. The Vespa was supposed to serve only as a transport method for the cannon, although it was possible to fire the gun while mounted on the scooter.
This artillery was not very useful against the tanks in the Indochine conflict but proved itself as quite useful against lightly armored targets in the Algerian War. The TAP was constructed to be dropped in pairs from a plane with a parachute. The bikes were mounted on palettes and protected with haystacks. One of the scooters carried the cannon, while the other carried the ammo, so they were operated by two men teams. The TAP 150 was ready to be used instantly, and due to its mobility, it was a very effective weapon. A trailer carrying additional items was often attached to the moped, and it also had a tripod for the cannon. The Vespa TAP 150’s construction was very cheap, with an estimated cost of 500$, so it was the perfect weapon for anti-guerilla warfare.
Even has a TAP Mle 51 Shelter quarter on the cargo rack. I keep one of those in my shooting cart for a poncho. Pretty neat.
 
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