In a population of over 321,000,000 there are some 3,310,000 available to fill the 1,594,000 spots. I do not see where teh problem is, except many kids are too smart to enlist, and not taken by the shady offers of recruiters.
Uncle whats your 16 year olds to die now?
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My general opinion is that if someone’s a straight A student and they’re in excellent physical condition, they should go to community college and finish a 4 year degree at some point prior to going in the military.
I went in early after graduating high school because my folks couldn't afford to send me to college and my grades were not straight As.
Young men and women who have their shit together should become officers.
People who were in my position probably should be carrying the base plate of a mortar as their MOS or AFSC, etc. i’m not entirely sure I would’ve trusted me until after I got out of college with years of military service under my belt.
I went in early after graduating high school because my folks couldn't afford to send me to college and my grades were not straight As.
Young men and women who have their shit together should become officers.
People who were in my position probably should be carrying the base plate of a mortar as their MOS or AFSC, etc. i’m not entirely sure I would’ve trusted me until after I got out of college with years of military service under my belt.
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I never thought I would be saying this, but...... during these times, the draft would be a good thing. Two years with the service of their choice, would give these young ones some direction in their lives, toughen them up some, so when they got out in the world, they would hopefully make sound(er) decisions and would stay out of mom & dad's basement, have a better understanding of how the world really is and also be productive members of society. JMHO Mac?
I wonder how many of the supporters of this policy are holdovers from the African Warlord. There is not a shortage of qualified applicants because not enough are qualified and willing. There is a shortage of applicants because not enough are willing to accept the conditions of employment at the pay and benefits offered. And partly because too many young people have become acquainted with Americas tradition of shitting on its Vets in peace time.
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I didn't mean to say that the Government was wrong; simply that when they went for the 'Baca, they did it as a war of attrition/annihilation, terminating the Tobacco Industry with extreme prejudice.
It was deliberately crafted to serve as a trial run against Tobacco because that wasn't Constitutionally protected. The goal was to develop a strategy and tactics that would garner public support then, and later as well, when they went after the 2A.
So far, they are running true to form.
Greg
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I had not encountered that reasoning. Do you have documentation? Not arguing just asking.
Funny how many ducked service bec
Nothing wrong with being Enlisted. In twenty years I never met an Officer who didn’t make the same mistakes. Usually, they got off.
The dems are falling over themselves to get 16 year olds voting - something special about having an unformed frontal cortex excites them.
70 years ago I could see a 16 year old voting but in the age of 26 you stay on your parents insurance and people living in the basement into their thirties we have slowed the development of adults.
Save voting for adults - preferably working, tax paying ones.
Just like in Europe they want kids to be able to vote while they are still young and stupid and under the direct control of their local "school" communist propaganda, so the teacher can take them all out of school to the voting station after having made sure they were fully indoctrinated in who to vote for.
Kids are too stupid and group think to understand they are just idiot pawns.
Kids are too stupid and group think to understand they are just idiot pawns.
Age restrictions in our country are fucking backwards. It's 17 (18 to serve in combat) for military service and to vote, but 21 to purchase alcohol and even tobacco in many states. "We the People" are fucking clueless, and it only goes to show that the law makers will open up the younger ages to more when it serves their purpose, but seek to control the populace otherwise.
Maggot; No, unfortunately I don't have the documentation, but the subject has appeared here on The 'Hide before, to my best knowledge.
Redmanss; When I left for 'Nam, it was legal for me to drink in my home state, when I returned, it wasn't. OK to die, but no drinky for me. Stupid.
Greg
Redmanss; When I left for 'Nam, it was legal for me to drink in my home state, when I returned, it wasn't. OK to die, but no drinky for me. Stupid.
Greg
Really, they did not... because if they had wanted to, they could have simply banned tobacco or made it a class 1 narcotic like they did heroin or marijuana.
Instead, they taxed the hell out of it for generations while spending the revenue on anything and everything under the sun.... except investing for the healthcare crisis that would eventually result.
Then, the states whined that tobacco was costing them billions in health costs for the product they endorsed, in essence, by collecting taxes... and sued big tobacco... over a legal product that they knew had risks... and which they had been complicit in selling with the collection of billions in federal and state tax revenue.
Those suits should never have awarded one cent to governments that profited billions of dollars from tobacco... spent the profits on free cheese and other unnecessary crap... then come back for more when the healthcare bill came due.
Government can’t afford to lose the revenue from tobacco or alcohol and now other drugs. Nor do they want to lose the control over marketing of addictive products...
I doubt the 2a rehearsals had anything to do with it. It was all about greed and hypocrisy and the tobacco companies let them get away with it because the federal government has a monopoly on force. What it is rehearsal for is what they are trying to do to the fast food and energy and pharmacy sectors (and recently Volkswagen) because that is where the big wealth redistribution dollars are.
The gun industry is nothing... and the whole gun deaths and health crisis is a total made-up issue that is the bete noir of idiots who are uncomfortable with anything pointy or noisy or fun. And it is a hot button issue among highly committed folks on both sides... so worth fanning the flames.
Oh and on the subject of wealth redistribution... guess who paid ALL those bills... we did. Because no matter what they say, the government has no money. All of it comes from your pocket. And when they sue the tobacco companies and they pay out billlions in settlements to the government... guess where that money came from?
It came from the money you had in a 401k or a pension or an investment, because all the pension funds and hedge funds and Wall St Money market funds were heavily invested in tobacco and sin products. Plus you pay from your own pocket in higher tobacco prices if you are a customer. Then... The government takes the money and spends it on social programs designed to begat bigger and more intrusive government.... with money no longer in your pocket because it was channeled to theirs in yet another form of invisible taxation.
Taxing sin is bull. It taxes everyone, but with fancy marketing terms and spun up goodie two shoes cheering it on as social justice or defeating evil. It’s worse when you tax it for 200 years, collect billions, the. Suddenly decide you want more... so you sue over a product that overtly supported by your taxation of it... to take another bite of the apple. The apple that you and I own!!
Disgusting at every level. The real sin is that it is allowed to happen at all.
Sirhr
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