• Watch Out for Scammers!

    We've now added a color code for all accounts. Orange accounts are new members, Blue are full members, and Green are Supporters. If you get a message about a sale from an orange account, make sure you pay attention before sending any money!

GAMER CHANGER TESLONG BORE SCOPE!!! -- FINALLY A QUALITY REASONABLY PRICED BORE SCOPE!

When I first got my borescope I wanted to toss out every barrel I had from new custom tubes to factory guns. You have to take borescope pics with a giant plate full of grains of salt, there's info there, but you can see some ugly things on even new best rep custom barrels. If the rifle won't shoot that's one thing, otherwise I use it more for throat monitoring and cleaning eval. It's also good for checking out used guns for a purchase, or even new there's some ugly things in factory barrels these days. Some guys take really good care of their guns and you can have a beautiful gun with a shot out barrel, or one damaged by years of poor cleaning habits.

I scoped a custom 22 handgun barrel that from the pictures you'd toss it in the trashcan, but it would hold 0.5" groups at 50yds with Eley Match out of a rest. Same is true for a lot of the old M41 barrels, but they perform amazing.

My JP barrel had rust/pits out of the box but shot very well.

I will say that 716 looks like odd, I've never seen smoothed "chips" like that

One thing I've found is that manufacturers factory and custom do not consider barrel scope issues significant, if the barrel shoots reasonably they don't care what the throat, crown, pitted, rusted, etc. look like.
 
Last edited:
To me it does beg the question of if high end barrels are shipping with various rifling/pitting/chatter etc. issues and are clearly performing well, how much better would they perform without those issues. Factory tubes I'm sure don't care because most of their buyers can't shoot a 2" group anyway, but you'd think for the custom tubes they'd get inspected with a borescope before shipping to ensure they were top quality. Is it really that hard to produce a clean barrel without defects for the $600+ we pay for a custom tube?

One thing I have noticed is that my guns with cleaner rifling/bores with less defects/pits/chatter marks etc. shoot a wider variety of ammo well. Those with issues are harder to find loads that perform optimally.
 
Ordered yesterday afternoon...arrived 10amET this morning....and already it's paid for itself by satisfying my curiosity.

7119129


40 S&W M&P with about 5k rounds through it. This is just as the rifling starts. There are three 'claw' marks on EVERY groove...not just one. The horizontal chattering from the tooling goes in 2" or so also. Funny thing is...I shoot mostly cast lead that is powder coated red (Harbor Freight)...and finish the day off with a few mags of JHPs to 'clean out the powder coat'. These pics after about 200 rounds from the range yesterday.

7119130


40 S&W M&P close to the muzzle. More copper.

Next up...one dirty 9mm

7119132


9mm S&W M&P shooting cast lead that is powder coated red. Shot a few mags of JHPs at the end to clear out barrel...or so I think. When loading these I felt I didn't bell the mouth enough and was scraping the powder coat off the base of the flat base 125gr truncated cones....I think this pic shows I have some leading....this after 200 rounds or so yesterday.

Next up... 308

7119133


This is from a Remington 308 heavy varmit barrel that I shot in ELR 10 year ago and still love to shoot. It has about 3100 rounds through it and still shoots 1/4 MOA with modifications to a new stock and trigger. What do you think? Are the black bands still evidence of being stupid and shooting moly when that crazy was going strong? 168gr amax moly at 1000yds at Thunder Valley Precision back in the day was the en fuego cheetah scat. Luckily I stop that silliness before it did some permanent damage. This rifle still amazes me....off the shelf retail gun and shoots better than most of my customs.

BTW....I'll get better at using this new tool....and a tool it is...to be used but not misinterpreted.
 
I know not to look to close into what a bore scope shows. But the 7mm-08 can't hold a group. Even checked bolts, and changed scopes. It's been a few years since I shot it so I don't remember what it does exactly.

As for my 716 crown, it looks either likes dents, or tooling marks, they are so tiny it's hard to tell.
 
When I first got my borescope I wanted to toss out every barrel I had from new custom tubes to factory guns. You have to take borescope pics with a giant plate full of grains of salt, there's info there, but you can see some ugly things on even new best rep custom barrels. If the rifle won't shoot that's one thing, otherwise I use it more for throat monitoring and cleaning eval. It's also good for checking out used guns for a purchase, or even new there's some ugly things in factory barrels these days. Some guys take really good care of their guns and you can have a beautiful gun with a shot out barrel, or one damaged by years of poor cleaning habits.

I scoped a custom 22 handgun barrel that from the pictures you'd toss it in the trashcan, but it would hold 0.5" groups at 50yds with Eley Match out of a rest. Same is true for a lot of the old M41 barrels, but they perform amazing.

My JP barrel had rust/pits out of the box but shot very well.

I will say that 716 looks like odd, I've never seen smoothed "chips" like that

One thing I've found is that manufacturers factory and custom do not consider barrel scope issues significant, if the barrel shoots reasonably they don't care what the throat, crown, pitted, rusted, etc. look like.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Guys looking at things and bitching about things they have no knowledge of. Gunsmiths are going to be spending more time defending their work/barrels now that everyone has borescopes. lolol. Shoot your rifles.


It's worthless if you don't know what you're looking at. Like me. All those barrels look like trash. So, for me it would only add anxiety. But I'll probably buy one anyway. You can't learn without learning. ?
 
Any confirmation it will work with an Iphone 8 or even a Chromebook? I have been wanting something like this for a long time...
 
I guess Apple products are a no go with it for now?
I believe that Teslong's product manager said here somewhere that he is scoring the HARD WIRE ONLY adapter for the Macbook. I think the iPhone/iPad version is coming in the near future. But for $50.00, I am very happy with the scope. For me, clear and bright.
 
So. 556 Proof 16” barrel. Minor erosion despite heavy use.

View attachment 7118851
View attachment 7118853

Interesting post gas hole copper fouling. Heaviest place right there.
View attachment 7118852

Oddly , my view in the display on windows seems better than the outright captures. View attachment 7118855
Thanks for that pic. If you adjust the mirror back and forth, screwing and unscrewing along the threads, I am almost certain that you will get a very sharp image.
 
Thanks for that pic. If you adjust the mirror back and forth, screwing and unscrewing along the threads, I am almost certain that you will get a very sharp image.

I tried something similar. I took that spacer/locking ring off and threaded all the way down. It helped a little, but the bigger difference was just getting the camera the right distance from what you are looking at. Also removes more of the edge of the mirror you see.

If there was a sleeve to make it a solid rod, that would be amazing. I may have to look into that. That is one advantage of the Lyman.
 
Mine works great. Just got it and plugged it into Windows 10. Its not working on my Android which stinks since I have a dedicated Samsung Tab 4 10.1" in the reloading room mounted on the wall for my AutoTrickler setup. Says OTG needs to be enabled but cant find that setting and the searching I did on the interwebs says your phone needs to be rooted which stinks.

Any help on it working with Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1" or Samsung Galaxy S10+ would be great but picture looks good. Especially for $50!





I am about THE clumsiest and most illiterate guy going when it comes to tablet/phones. But mine worked immediately on a Samsung Galaxy Tab "A". Two apps work great, free at Playstore. My favorite is the "USB Camera" app, but only get the "USB Camera" app from Shao Yen, identified by it's app icon with the orange and black color, plus a camera and USB hook up image as part of the icon. The other is Teslong's own app called "Endoscope Camera". It's icon is designed in gray and white with a white circle surrounding a little blue camera lens. Download , and open it up. A new page will open in a few seconds automatically, asking you to pick either "Endoscope Camera" (top pic) or the USB Endoscope (lower pic). You want to touch/open the LOWER USB Endoscope pic. IMPORTANT: YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THE BORE SCOPE PLUGGED INTO THE TABLET/PHONE YET! A new small window will open saying..."No cameras found. Please make sure your phone OTG MODE is opened." Now is the time to plug the bore scope in! If you don't get it plugged in in the five second time window, just hit the "USB Endoscope pic again, and be ready to connect faster. In just a few seconds, you will be looking at the bore scope image on your tablet screen! Eezzy-peezzy. :) The "USB Camera" app by Shao Yen is even easier. Download the app. With this app, YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BORE SCOPE ALREADY PLUGGED IN FROM THE START! Now open the app, and Voila, you will see the bore scope image within a few seconds! Again.....Eezzy-peezzy. Don't forget to turn the LED lights to bright setting using the little wheel switch 6 inches from the scope/tablet connection point. Insert the bore scope into your barrel and you will be looking straight down the barrel. Then pull the scope out and attach the mirror accessory. You focus this by adjusting how far you screw the mirror down on the camera head threads. You want it screwed on only a few turns for a .223 caleber barrel, a few more threads down for a .243, a few more for a 6.5mm Creedmoor, etc., etc. I believe I had Teslong print the instruction manual incorrectly, saying that the mirror should be screwed on deeply for the smaller calibers. The reverse is true. Sorry...my bad. :( Have a ball with this reasonably priced (finally!) rifle bore scope. I love it especially for a "before and after" look when I am about to clean the barrel.
indow
 
Headline:
Barrel sales skyrocket following Teslong Bore Scope release...
lolol....LOLOL! Thanks for that, my friend. We really needed a quality, reasonably priced bore scope. Once I first used one, I was hooked forever! :) Now you will KNOW when you have properly cleaned you barrel...copper, lead, carbon....ALL!
 
Headline:
Barrel sales skyrocket following Teslong Bore Scope release...

Makes you wonder why a big barrel maker didn't jump on this sooner. I think you are right, going to be a lot of ocd types getting new barrels.
 
Makes you wonder why a big barrel maker didn't jump on this sooner. I think you are right, going to be a lot of ocd types getting new barrels.

That's why I posted the Mark & Sam video....it should be used for seeing cleaning, obstructions, and when you purchase a used gun.....if it shoots...don't worry about what it looks like.
 
7119353


7119354




For $50 bucks I'm impressed, great image quality works on phone or laptop. I can see copper fouling and even the beginnings of a carbon ring at the edge of the throat.

Shoots fine, got about 60rds to burn before the next cleaning but being able to visually check for a carbon ring is pretty cool.
 
I just got mine. For $50 it just seems like a must buy. I agree the pictures of barrels can lie, but even just to evaluate your cleaning, why not?

It comes with a USB-C adaptor, which is nice. Worked out of the box with my MacBook Retina and Photo Booth. The captures are indeed worse than live video, because it takes a longer exposure for captures and so motion degrades the image quality. Here is the beautiful flash hole of my RWS 50 BMG brass:
 

Attachments

  • RWS flash hole.jpg
    RWS flash hole.jpg
    229.6 KB · Views: 122
That's why I posted the Mark & Sam video....it should be used for seeing cleaning, obstructions, and when you purchase a used gun.....if it shoots...don't worry about what it looks like.
Exactly true, it's a good video, and they also mention the importance of having a clean, square crown, that will screw up accuracy long before chatter marks. I've seen a lot of barrels that didn't shoot well, show remarkable improvement just being recrowned. If you get a very uneven powder pattern on the end of your barrel that can (but not always) be a tip off. I'd think the very first part of the rifling is important too, if the lands are badly damaged that the bullet "jumps" into you'd think that could significantly deform the bullet/casing. Especially if that first area the bullet hits is asymmetrical.

There's a also a lot going on with pressures, and esp. for those trying to squeak every last FPS out of hot calibers how much damage you do to the jacket to avoid it coming apart at max spin. I've seen some pretty uneven throat wear where one or two lands were damaged right where they started in the barrel. I'd imagine various land damage can impact velocity as well. I've seen some lands at the start that were smooshed/smeared heavily which probably impacted pressure and basically increased the "jump" the lands significantly. I'm usually a lot more worried about a very asymmetrical issue (1-2 lands damaged) etc.

IMO barrel makers probably don't want bore scopes out there because they don't want to have to defend the quality of the inside of their barrels. Plus there are lots of people who are going to see what they think is an issue when in reality it's the gun setup, or the shooter. That said, while a barrel might shoot great with damage in it, it's pretty hard to argue it wouldn't shoot more consistent and wear more evenly, and be easier to clean if the damage was not there. I doubt anyone would argue a pitted barrel with chatter marks, damaged lands and a non-square crown is going to yield the best possible performance.
 
View attachment 7119353

View attachment 7119354



For $50 bucks I'm impressed, great image quality works on phone or laptop. I can see copper fouling and even the beginnings of a carbon ring at the edge of the throat.

Shoots fine, got about 60rds to burn before the next cleaning but being able to visually check for a carbon ring is pretty cool.


Man that's a nice barrel! Great video and pics also. I need to get one of those borecams. My Lyman is really really showing its age now.
 
I tried something similar. I took that spacer/locking ring off and threaded all the way down. It helped a little, but the bigger difference was just getting the camera the right distance from what you are looking at. Also removes more of the edge of the mirror you see.

If there was a sleeve to make it a solid rod, that would be amazing. I may have to look into that. That is one advantage of the Lyman.

Sorry if you mentioned it loveha. But when your talking about adjusting the camera distance what size barrel were you scoping out, a 308 by chance?

@loveha
 
On a side note this is the best I've gotten my Lyman borecam to do. For some reason the brightness setting works better on 3 than 4.. So its not really confidence inspiring. Its still under the 30 day Amazon warranty so I'll probably return it for a credit and get the Teslong instead.

7119375
 
Sorry if you mentioned it loveha. But when your talking about adjusting the camera distance what size barrel were you scoping out, a 308 by chance?

@loveha

I think it was after I was done with my 308 and looking at my 7mm-08 that I noticed if I got the camera further or closer to what I wanted to look at. That's when I wished the camera wand was solid so it was easier to manipulate. But, as you can see, it takes great pics, the first 7mm-08 photo is blurry. Camera must have moved as I took the picture.
Was on Windows 10 so I could view it on my tv.
 
  • Like
Reactions: blackops_1
someone probably needs to fire up the 3D printer and make some caliber specific jags that we can slip on the wire and guide it through the bore.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NVScout
I think it was after I was done with my 308 and looking at my 7mm-08 that I noticed if I got the camera further or closer to what I wanted to look at. That's when I wished the camera wand was solid so it was easier to manipulate. But, as you can see, it takes great pics, the first 7mm-08 photo is blurry. Camera must have moved as I took the picture.
Was on Windows 10 so I could view it on my tv.

Right on, thank you Sir.
 
Now that would be HUGE!!! I'll take .20, .224, 308, 264, 243, 9mm, 45

Calling @Tyler Kemp

+1, if we can get some measurements and "additions" from the guys in China for some simple slip-on to the shaft? Just an additional manufacturing for them that's easy. Economy of scale for us that don't have the time. You catch my drift?

Calling @Tyler Kemp
 
Antique USMC EGA for campaign hat purchased.......

.2 borescope to search the corners of my wallet for the quickly disappearing money ordered.

Amazon almost got me with that Prime shit.

Make sure you go back in and delete the Prime trial from your account after you order or a month from now Bozos will automatically bill you for $119 yearly subscription.

My only issues with this scope prior to use......

1. Amazon selling it.
2. Made in China.
3. I might have to have to upgrade my old ass electronics for thousands of $ to get my $50 scope working.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ken4570tc in WY
If there was a sleeve to make it a solid rod, that would be amazing. I may have to look into that. That is one advantage of the Lyman.


Try rubbing it real fast from base to tip and see if it gets stiff.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: LngRngShtr
How about looking into a case to check for impending case head separation.

I wish I could help you on that...but I don't have any brass left that isn't reloaded....spent the day reloading everything up....and only brass I have that isn't loaded is some brand new 300PRC brass that I'll load at a later date.
 
I did spin the mirror off so I could look straight down the barrel at the bolt....was watching the firing pin come forward on trigger press. I wasn't looking for anything important...just giggling that I could see it.
 
When I first got my borescope I wanted to toss out every barrel I had from new custom tubes to factory guns. You have to take borescope pics with a giant plate full of grains of salt, there's info there, but you can see some ugly things on even new best rep custom barrels. If the rifle won't shoot that's one thing, otherwise I use it more for throat monitoring and cleaning eval. It's also good for checking out used guns for a purchase, or even new there's some ugly things in factory barrels these days. Some guys take really good care of their guns and you can have a beautiful gun with a shot out barrel, or one damaged by years of poor cleaning habits.

I scoped a custom 22 handgun barrel that from the pictures you'd toss it in the trashcan, but it would hold 0.5" groups at 50yds with Eley Match out of a rest. Same is true for a lot of the old M41 barrels, but they perform amazing.

My JP barrel had rust/pits out of the box but shot very well.

I will say that 716 looks like odd, I've never seen smoothed "chips" like that

One thing I've found is that manufacturers factory and custom do not consider barrel scope issues significant, if the barrel shoots reasonably they don't care what the throat, crown, pitted, rusted, etc. look like.
I have back up what is being said here. You should see my 20 year old Savage 22-250 barrel. Especially with it being housed with me 7 blocks from the Pacific Ocean. But it shoots .5 MOA with hand loaded ammo. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. An ugly girl can still be the most charming, the most intelligent, and most wealthy at the dance. :)
 
Sig 716 Chambered 308
About 500 rounds maybe?
View attachment 7119055

Crown! Thinking this is why I have an 1.5" gun and not 1"
View attachment 7119056View attachment 7119057

Pictures of the moon, I mean a 7mm-08 that I neglected growing up as a kid.
View attachment 7119064View attachment 7119065View attachment 7119066

Have many more of those and stopped taking pictures after 15 of them. Needles to say it don't shoot very well. Going to rebarrel it now me thinks lol.
Don't feel too bad. I have 20 year old Savage 22-250 with a worse looking barrel, that shoots my hand-loads into a .5 MOA group. "If it ain't broke....." :)
 
Any confirmation it will work with an Iphone 8 or even a Chromebook? I have been wanting something like this for a long time...
For a real confirmation you should email the Teslong product manager [email protected] But as I think the situation is now, 1.) only hardwire hookup for both PC and Macbook computers...2.) presently only hardwire hookup (with included adapters) for Android phone/tablets...3.) plans to bring out Wifi model for Android phones/tablets (unfortunately not an "add on" for this $50.00 hardwire version due to longevity issues with a two peice system in the past, but the stand alone Wifi version will still be at a great price, the whole reason behind me getting on board as consultant during the 6 month R&D period. But I have made several mistakes in trying to answer this type question recently. So I totally defer to Murphy for these questions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: blackops_1
Thanks for that pic. If you adjust the mirror back and forth, screwing and unscrewing along the threads, I am almost certain that you will get a very sharp image.
+1 to your reply. The bore scope is capable of very good focus. :)
 
For a real confirmation you should email the Teslong product manager [email protected] But as I think the situation is now, 1.) only hardwire hookup for both PC and Macbook computers...2.) presently only hardwire hookup (with included adapters) for Android phone/tablets...3.) plans to bring out Wifi model for Android phones/tablets (unfortunately not an "add on" for this $50.00 hardwire version due to longevity issues with a two peice system in the past, but the stand alone Wifi version will still be at a great price, the whole reason behind me getting on board as consultant during the 6 month R&D period. But I have made several mistakes in trying to answer this type question recently. So I totally defer to Murphy for these questions.

Don't feel bad about missing stuff, your a goodkid. Ha! sorry had to say that, but yeah its the bleeding edge eqpt so there'll be some misses no worries in my .02. :)
 
So this won’t work with iPad/iPhone but will work with MacBook correct.
 
Now that would be HUGE!!! I'll take .20, .224, 308, 264, 243, 9mm, 45

Calling @Tyler Kemp
We have a 3D printer at work... It would take our 3D guy 5 seconds to whip up a prototype... heck I could even do the 3d part. Just need the precision measurements... then it becomea finding a place that would cast them in some durable plastic...
 
Also wanted to add... I upgraded to the Pro version of the Shen Yao app I had found... it's def worth the $5.99 upgrade. First to have no seriously annoying ads that block the interface but tons more settings that'll titillate even the best of us geeky fucks. Pity you poor peasants stuck with those crapola Mac/Apple thingys that arent working Ha.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rootshot