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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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Now we know who wears the dresses in the Clinton family.

We don’t know how much this painting sold for about seven years ago but you can bet it might be seen next in Sotheby’s.

Caption contest starts now...

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My wife works a concession stand at the local hockey rink and the pool in the summer. Her staff is almost always high school kids. The registers are programmed for tax and total and then tell you what change to give. Even with that these brain dead useless as tits on a bull kiddies struggle with making change. It is positively pathetic to watch.

Have you seen the registers that show how many of each coin to give back as change.....I am glad I am old.
 
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Now we know who wears the dresses in the Clinton family.

We don’t know how much this painting sold for about seven years ago but you can bet it might be seen next in Sotheby’s.

Caption contest starts now...

5d54860ceaa84ca881161ce0

"I'm feeling extra rapie today!"
 
Anne Frank’s “Diary”—postwar fake

Millions of schoolchildren have been forced to read the fictional “diary” of Anne Frank. In 1980, because of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt (BKA), forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. Their analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, portions of the work were added well after the war (Anne Frank died in March 1945).

The BKA also determined that none of the “diary” handwriting matched known examples of Anne's handwriting. Earlier handwriting experts had determined that all of the writing in the “diary” was by the same hand. Therefore, the entire “diary” was a postwar fake.

The true author of the diary was Jewish novelist Meyer Levin, who demanded and was awarded $50,000 in payment for his work in a court action against Anne's father, Otto Frank.

Is this true the diary is fake?
 
Well, you read it in the internet......


Truth told, I’m not sure. I will look into it when I have time.

There are also people who claim the world is flat, the Holocaust didnt happen, and that I am a terrorist for being a Christian American male who happens to be white. Even worse I own firearms and believe in the COTUS.
 
What are you saying? Why, oh why would the Germans ever want to prove it a fake?

the biggest bit of contention if i remember correctly is the original fraud allegation was brought about by 2 men
while educated etc, they are non believers in the holocaust

from the original findings some parts were of different hand writing style
yet some of the writing seems to have been time/period correct

more info might have come to the forefront but those were the facts last time i did a little research
 
Is this true the diary is fake?
A. Nothing in it was some revelation or antithetical to well known history.
B. It's the diary of a child
C. An estimated 100,000 Jews were murdered in The Netherlands.
D. Many Dutch people tried to smuggle Jews out, or protect them by hiding them.
E. The Dutch were especially merciless on collaborators after the war.

It's a story. How much stock are you going to put in the diary of a little girl anyway? Ann Frank was a real little girl who was in a Jewish family that was hidden by resistors, then found by Nazis, then sent to concentration camp and murdered. These facts are NOT in contention (except maybe by those claiming it is a literary fake), because of the NAZI RECORDS, not because of a diary.
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A. Nothing in it was some revelation or antithetical to well known history.
B. It's the diary of a child
C. An estimated 100,000 Jews were murdered in The Netherlands.
D. Many Dutch people tried to smuggle Jews out, or protect them by hiding them.
E. The Dutch were especially merciless on collaborators after the war.

It's a story. How much stock are you going to put in the diary of a little girl anyway? Ann Frank was a real little girl who was in a Jewish family that was hidden by resistors, then found by Nazis, then sent to concentration camp and murdered. These facts are NOT in contention (except maybe by those claiming it is a literary fake), because of the NAZI RECORDS, not because of a diary.
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To clarify, I didn't mean was she, her family or the events and suck a fake but rather, was the story, as read in middle school and stuff here in the states, indeed written and published under false pretenses and not infact her direct written account in a diary.
 
To clarify, I didn't mean was she, her family or the events and suck a fake but rather, was the story, as read in middle school and stuff here in the states, indeed written and published under false pretenses and not infact her direct written account in a diary.

From what I have read, and I have been wrong once before, much of it was written in ballpoint pen. Ballpoint pens were not in production and readily available until post-WW2. The first ones for sale in the US in 1945 went for 12.50. Which is about 175 bucks in todays money. Doubtful that a 12yo Dutch Jewish girl had a roller ball pen in Nazi controlled Holland. Im not a Holocaust denier. Anachronisms are problematic. Just saying, and again, Not a Holocaust denier, and I have been wrong once before.
 
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Well, you're wrong. The holocaust deniers who initially made the claim the diary is a fake are also the ones who claim it's written in ball point pen. It was not. Some page numbers were added in ball point pen, and there are two notes attached to the diary that were written in ball point, the diary itself was written with a fountain pen.
 
From the Letter:

"On a recent tour of the forward areas in First and Third Armies, I stopped momentarily at the salt mines to take a look at the German treasure. There is a lot of it. But the most interesting — although horrible — sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops the tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Supreme Allied Commander April 12th, 1945

From his book "Crusade in Europe":
The same day, I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.
I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that “the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.” Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.
 
A. Nothing in it was some revelation or antithetical to well known history.
B. It's the diary of a child
C. An estimated 100,000 Jews were murdered in The Netherlands.
D. Many Dutch people tried to smuggle Jews out, or protect them by hiding them.
E. The Dutch were especially merciless on collaborators after the war.

It's a story. How much stock are you going to put in the diary of a little girl anyway? Ann Frank was a real little girl who was in a Jewish family that was hidden by resistors, then found by Nazis, then sent to concentration camp and murdered. These facts are NOT in contention (except maybe by those claiming it is a literary fake), because of the NAZI RECORDS, not because of a diary.
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My Mother (89) is Dutch and lived through the Nazi occupation of Holland. Sundays were reserved for public executions against the church wall in the town square. In many cases, all it took was an accusation of something to be executed (red flag laws anyone?). In the final year of the war, food was so scarce that people starved. It was illegal to own or hoard food. It all belonged to the Germans. Anything left over was thrown into a giant soup pot and served to the people. This often included tulip bulbs, insects or anything else other than just dirty water.

She saw her neighbors hauled out into the street and shot for owning a radio, which they had hidden in their attic under dome floor boards. Somebody ratted them out.

Her father sustained a double hernia smuggling wood out of the park for the few of them to use to try and keep warm. All wood belonged to the Germans too and if you were caught with it, you were shot.

Anytime my Mother hears about holocaust deniers, she cries for those she saw die in front of her. Her family lived and was lucky in that they were devout Christians and well known in the city. She even has survivors guilt from then.
 
My Great Grandmother was in the Danish Resistance even before the war started. My Grandfather was the President of Vigo Meats in 1940 when the Nazis seized his company and made the Wehrmacht it's only customer. When the Nazi Colonel, who controlled all the companies they seized throughout the war, came to inform him of how his business model was going to change he brought my grandfather a gift of a lamp and claimed was made from the skin of Jews. My grandfather didn't believe him, and thought it was made from pig skin and was just an intimidation tactic.

Holocaust denial motivates me to want to shoot motherfuckers in the face. The left will repeat it again because they are just that ignorant.
 
My Great Grandmother was in the Danish Resistance even before the war started. My Grandfather was the President of Vigo Meats in 1940 when the Nazis seized his company and made the Wehrmacht it's only customer. When the Nazi Colonel, who controlled all the companies they seized throughout the war, came to inform him of how his business model was going to change he brought my grandfather a gift of a lamp and claimed was made from the skin of Jews. My grandfather didn't believe him, and thought it was made from pig skin and was just an intimidation tactic.

Holocaust denial motivates me to want to shoot motherfuckers in the face. The left will repeat it again because they are just that ignorant.


just scanning here......I personally have held a couple of lampshades from a camp....tattoos on each panel....
 
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Well, you're wrong. The holocaust deniers who initially made the claim the diary is a fake are also the ones who claim it's written in ball point pen. It was not. Some page numbers were added in ball point pen, and there are two notes attached to the diary that were written in ball point, the diary itself was written with a fountain pen.


still not a Holocaust denier.