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mese341

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I know everyone talks about growing the shooting sports but not a lot of people talk about shooters with disabilities. Sure we hear about the people in the off road power chairs and the camera systems that help them shoot, but what about the older people or people with shoulder or back injuries that want to try long range or mid range shooting but can’t handle a ton of recoil? Sure the average person can go pick up a ctr in 6.5 creed or an rpr in 6 creed, yes the disabled person could find a 223 but don’t get the advantages that the average person gets with the 6mm or 6.5mm so it makes it harder for them to be competitive especially if they are just getting into it. I am surprised tikka or Ruger with the ctr or roe hasn’t chaimbered those guns in 6br or dasher yes I know the no ones has factory ammo but the price of starter reloading kits are reasonable enough where the average person can afford the kit. I just think it’s a missed opportunity to get more people into the sport not only people with disabilities but kids also
 
I know everyone talks about growing the shooting sports but not a lot of people talk about shooters with disabilities. Sure we hear about the people in the off road power chairs and the camera systems that help them shoot, but what about the older people or people with shoulder or back injuries that want to try long range or mid range shooting but can’t handle a ton of recoil? Sure the average person can go pick up a ctr in 6.5 creed or an rpr in 6 creed, yes the disabled person could find a 223 but don’t get the advantages that the average person gets with the 6mm or 6.5mm so it makes it harder for them to be competitive especially if they are just getting into it. I am surprised tikka or Ruger with the ctr or roe hasn’t chaimbered those guns in 6br or dasher yes I know the no ones has factory ammo but the price of starter reloading kits are reasonable enough where the average person can afford the kit. I just think it’s a missed opportunity to get more people into the sport not only people with disabilities but kids also
Sorry for the rambling and bad grammatical errors but I was just at an all weekend fire/ems conference and that was on my mind
 
If you have 6CM, what tangible difference will a 6BR get you. Seems like you are seriously splitting hairs with that one. Besides, any rifle can be rebarreled to accommodate one’s needs.
 
If you have 6CM, what tangible difference will a 6BR get you. Seems like you are seriously splitting hairs with that one. Besides, any rifle can be rebarreled to accommodate one’s needs.
I do not have a 6cm and I know a couple of people who can’t shoot enough rounds to complete a match but the cab if they shoot a caliber with a little less recoil than the creed
 
I’m confused, what’s stopping you from getting a rifle in 6 Dasher or 6 BR?
I was just thinking anyone can walk into a regular gun shop and pick up an rpr or ctr so a fun like that in a 6 creed or 6.5 but you can’t find that option with close to the same cost in 6br or dasher so people
Arnt going to be as apt to try the sport if they have to build a semi custom just to try out the sport
 
From my perspective, as an almost-67-year-old with significant back and elbow arthritis coupled with limited range of knee motion from an old injury, recoil is a minimal issue when it comes to competition. My limiting factor by far is strength and range of motion limitations. In move-shoot-move stages which require going prone and/or getting up from prone, I have to decide which positions to sacrifice because it takes forever for me to get up. I don't do some competitions which require kneeling because I can't kneel (try it with, essentially, a half-functioning knee).

I don't expect MDs to physically "dumb down" matches for me. As much as I'd like to shoot matches at the GTI Legion facility in SC, there is no way I could come close to accomplishing the climbing and running that's part of their CsOF - I know a few guys half to two-thirds my age who say it beat the daylights out of them.

On the other hand, there is one monthly rimfire match I attend which can be shot either from a bench or (another division) from PRS-type props but no move-shoot-move is required. So the former essentially becomes an equipment race; out of 45 competitors in last year's series, the top five places went to four Vudoos and an Anschutz. It's fun and I like it, but I'd have a harder time liking it if I didn't have a Vudoo.

In NSSA-sanctioned skeet, there are age classifications all the way up to age 90. PRS calls age 55 "senior" - which is f'ing absurd, like (as I've often said) calling an 18-year-old an "adult." It seems to me that adding a few age classification levels is the most "doable" way to give seniors a place to play with other seniors, but it makes running a match all that more difficult. If MDs wanted to run "easy" matches with less physical demands, that could also appeal to seniors and those with physical disabilities; younger, stronger shooters would still dominate but at least we oldsters could play more "effectively." Again, though, is it worth any MD's time and effort....
 
From my perspective, as an almost-67-year-old with significant back and elbow arthritis coupled with limited range of knee motion from an old injury, recoil is a minimal issue when it comes to competition. My limiting factor by far is strength and range of motion limitations. In move-shoot-move stages which require going prone and/or getting up from prone, I have to decide which positions to sacrifice because it takes forever for me to get up. I don't do some competitions which require kneeling because I can't kneel (try it with, essentially, a half-functioning knee).

I don't expect MDs to physically "dumb down" matches for me. As much as I'd like to shoot matches at the GTI Legion facility in SC, there is no way I could come close to accomplishing the climbing and running that's part of their CsOF - I know a few guys half to two-thirds my age who say it beat the daylights out of them.

On the other hand, there is one monthly rimfire match I attend which can be shot either from a bench or (another division) from PRS-type props but no move-shoot-move is required. So the former essentially becomes an equipment race; out of 45 competitors in last year's series, the top five places went to four Vudoos and an Anschutz. It's fun and I like it, but I'd have a harder time liking it if I didn't have a Vudoo.

In NSSA-sanctioned skeet, there are age classifications all the way up to age 90. PRS calls age 55 "senior" - which is f'ing absurd, like (as I've often said) calling an 18-year-old an "adult." It seems to me that adding a few age classification levels is the most "doable" way to give seniors a place to play with other seniors, but it makes running a match all that more difficult. If MDs wanted to run "easy" matches with less physical demands, that could also appeal to seniors and those with physical disabilities; younger, stronger shooters would still dominate but at least we oldsters could play more "effectively." Again, though, is it worth any MD's time and effort....