This is more about control of the person and not control of a virus.
Has been since day 1.This is more about control of the person and not control of a virus.
DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH.
Wait until the very last day before doing anything. On the signature line of anything you ultimately have to sign even though you do not want to, print in bold letters "Under Duress of Termination" before and after your signature.
If they require you to sign it differently, tell them this is how you will sign their document. If it's not acceptable, then you need to make a choice. Basically they are trying to prove that you VOLUNTARILY signed a document, you're just making it clear on the document it's under threat of termination. Which is clearly true.
If you are a one party state, you can record the entire engagement on a small digital recorder.
had a dept meeting (teams) yesterday and they talked about the current guidelines (staff at hospitals or clinics that require if for their staff will have to get the clotshot).
i was very close to asking them "who decided that somebody has to take it against their will or be fired? i want the names of the people making healthcare decisions for other people they have never even met."
but decided i needed to keep my job a while longer. i work in healthcare.
It does but I think everyone can tell it is being recorded.Doesn’t teams have a record option?
probably, but the policies are posted online and emails to everyone by the CEO pretty often or as they change.Doesn’t teams have a record option?
GoodIt does but I think everyone can tell it is being recorded.
Ask for a copy of the unsigned document to take home and review, most will start back peddling right away
Depends on what stateYes, you have to consent to the meeting being recorded in teams.
What is ultimately driving this? The pharmaceutical industry has produced 9 new billionaires subsequent to the 'pandemic'. 6 of them are associated with Moderna.
Imagine the tight spot you guys will be in once you realize that your conformity sealed the fate of your children’s future and you did it for a god damn pension. If you won’t fight to protect your own family from the marxist grip then how can you be counted on to protect America?
Have you guys even considered the possibility of standing with your men and facing the domestic enemy head on and say “fuck you”? They can’t arrest half the military considering your numbers plus the civilians that rally beside you while you are upholding your oath.
This.Imagine had you guys refused to wear a mask. This thread wouldn’t exist and Trump would be your President. What’s next?
Resist Everything.
You are truly a retard....Hit the road if you don't like it. Ain't no one owed a job in this country. I quit a number of jobs in my career due to excessive bullschitt and bad management. I applaud your freedom of choice...
To have your LAWYER review.
You are truly a retard....
Look at these two pics
..if you cant understand what I'm saying you are truly ignorant.
Wait, I'll spell it out for you.
Coercion is illegal.
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Right....As a parent of a T1Diabetic the top one is particularly galling.......
You're fucking idiot...You are truly a retard....
Look at these two pics
..if you cant understand what I'm saying you are truly ignorant.
Wait, I'll spell it out for you.
Coercion is illegal.
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Typical liberal, when they cant back up their statement, call the other names and runaway....You're fucking idiot...
Typical liberal, when they cant back up their statement, call the other names and runaway....
11 years and 95 comments.
Fuck you you stupid ass boot licker. I'm so tired of you asshats joining just to cause trouble. Get the fuck out of here and go suck start a shotgun.
Doc
Typical liberal, when they cant back up their statement, call the other names and runaway....
11 years and 95 comments.
Fuck you you stupid ass boot licker. I'm so tired of you asshats joining just to cause trouble. Get the fuck out of here and go suck start a shotgun.
Doc
I guess you dont get it either...its so sad to see a grown up not get it. My kids understand what's going on and you cant.Doc really feels like he's owed a living, and he'll sue to get it.
Would definitely be exploring other job opportunities now, while he has options.Scariest part of all of this is the not knowing.
Family member of mine, sole provider for his family of 5, pilot for the wealthy. Highly likely that once states/countries mandate the vax he will either have to get it or be fired. There is zero chance he will find another job like he has now, it’s a job most would kill for with a high income.
his debate is, do I roll over and take it for the sake of my job, family, home, land, etc or hope I can find work somewhere else and most likely take a giant pay cut and loose everything he has.
flip side of it is, if this shot causes major health issues down the road was it worth it, or do you roll the dice and hope they are safe.
rock and hard place I would hate to be in. Glad I’m self employed.
fuck all these evil people forcing people to make decisions like this. FUCKING. EVIL.
Scariest part of all of this is the not knowing.
Family member of mine, sole provider for his family of 5, pilot for the wealthy. Highly likely that once states/countries mandate the vax he will either have to get it or be fired. There is zero chance he will find another job like he has now, it’s a job most would kill for with a high income.
his debate is, do I roll over and take it for the sake of my job, family, home, land, etc or hope I can find work somewhere else and most likely take a giant pay cut and loose everything he has.
flip side of it is, if this shot causes major health issues down the road was it worth it, or do you roll the dice and hope they are safe.
rock and hard place I would hate to be in. Glad I’m self employed.
fuck all these evil people forcing people to make decisions like this. FUCKING. EVIL.
Would definitely be exploring other job opportunities now, while he has options.
Never get tunnel vision.
You want a pilot flying you that is so determined to live he is refusing a vaccine that might kill him and taking his chances with less than 1% risks......or do you want a guy that says hold my beer watch this?
Guess there is a flip side to that but thats the vision Im going with.
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How many jabs until autopilot?
Good news, bad news, new strain is vax resistant:
WHO investigating new COVID-19 variant named mu
The World Health Organization said it is monitoring another new COVID-19 variant with mutations that the agency fears could make it resistant to vaccines.www.foxnews.com
We got anybody coming in from Colombia or Ecuador?
(Good Mus or bad Mus. . . )
And….the vax version that fought alpha and beta versions is no longer valid. Plus, your MRna is now all fucked up and there is no going back to the way it was before.As far as I am concerned we have traded the old flu for the new flu.
Isnt that the statistics we are lead to believe? Flu no longer exists.
Make three fake ass vaccines each year in hopes that one will actually work against whatever the covid flavor of the year is and carry on.
Anyone that wants to take the "guess" vaccine can do so while we all carry on and go about business.
Of course that is not the concern of this current agenda though.
If it were what I wrote above would be happening.
Someone mentioned CONmirty vaccine is approved. Not sure of the spelling so I made it up. Pfizer isn't getting theirs approved, and the are backing the Conmirty version.....
Its not different.
It'll be available soon as soon a Pfizer gets their label machine retooled. The Conformity version is Pfizer, Pfizer is Cornfirmary.
And its not approved anyway, its still covered by EUA.
The links to all this are floating around here somewhere.
Its the same old poison with a shiny new label.
Someone mentioned CONmirty vaccine is approved. Not sure of the spelling so I made it up. Pfizer isn't getting theirs approved, and the are backing the Conmirty version.....
Its not different.
It'll be available soon as soon a Pfizer gets their label machine retooled. The Conformity version is Pfizer, Pfizer is Cornfirmary.
And its not approved anyway, its still covered by EUA.
The links to all this are floating around here somewhere.
Its the same old poison with a shiny new label.
To my weak ass Union......
We currently seem to be without a Union.
A Union's strength is based on a common message and effort. In the void of union messaging and under the duress of the mandate members are being forced to make individual decisions.
Members are upset with the Union for not providing direction in this matter, which for many is the most pressing they have faced in their careers. *** is only hypothetical, this mandate is a freight train barreling straight at them.
Making individual decisions is not wrong, its all I ask for. Its exactly as the Country's founding documents specify. Our Declaration of Independence and Constitution stress "the Individual" over "the community".
I recognize there is valid precedence when a mandate can be applied for the health of the community. That is the precedence we are told that this mandate is based on but there is no equivalency. Mandating a small pox vaccine was in response to a 30% mortality rate and severe scarring or severe health effects for survivors of the disease. The vaccine worked so well that small pox was eradicated from the human population by 1980. Polio, measles etc. indicate similar health significance but most importantly an efficacy of those vaccines.
That is not this vaccine.
The mortality of CV19 has been shown to be less than 1% and reports are of a breakthrough rate greater than 50%. Assuming general good health individual risks are limited. If the vaccine were effective than there would be no argument that "My vaccine is not working because YOU have not been vaccinated". This has never been the case with the specific vaccines that are being used as examples to push this mandate. If the mortality and efficacy of those example vaccines do not match than this mandate should not use them as their legal basis.
This mandate also appears to be driven by the FDA approval. FDA approval comes with a historical understanding that the manufacturer assumes certain liabilities on approval. The approved drug apparently does not have those historical liability protections for those that get it. The current mandate does not specify that workers get the approved vaccine and that they will benefit from the historical liability protections should they have a reaction. It is not known if the approved vaccine is even available in quantity to service the ***.
**** should question through the lawyers if the employees are covered under the historical understanding of FDA approval and liability. It may help people that are vaccine hesitant to know that should they be injured the manufacturer or party responsible for the mandate assumes liability for their injury.
**** should communicate that if employees choose to get the vaccine, they may want to take ONLY the FDA approved product BY NAME and note that they have done so under duress and with the understanding that as an FDA approved product the manufacturer or the party responsible for the mandate assumes responsibility for any injury or harm to the member.
Again, no messaging or help is coming from ****.
Meetings are planned for weeks later but employees only know that they have to have the shots and it being a two week process they must start sooner rather than later to meet the proposed date of mandate.
Pass this on....thinking my dues for 16 years may have been better going to ***** but rumor has it they may have bigger problems coming and their protests in regards to this may be beneficial to future aims of the Executive.
There has to be trained lawyers that can make a better fight on this than me.
Is anyone really surprised by the unions stance on this? Look at the party that unions are known to back...
Just like gun control.Forced/mandated vaccines are just going to make criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens.
Just got it yesterday...November 1 you must have all rounds, period. Even if you work from home. WHAT THE FUCK?
I may have to quit right before a deadline...just walk out. Say..no, no vaccine...fuck you very much.
You're the second person that has said this to me. I'll try the obvious two routes first. Best job of my life which is so sad. Other jobs I'd not be actually questioning perhaps the J&J; but last week it was masks & tests for unvaccinated. But just who the fuck am I going to infect here? I live by myself, even my dog left me last year (he'd had enough of this world) and my really good neighbor also hasn't had jab. And his mother-in-law just had cancer surgery...still no jab.Call their bluff. Let them fire you, if they have the nerve. I'd also request the official policy on paper for your lawyer to review.