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Rittenhouse Trial

Isn't there a video of Arbery inside of a garage snooping around ..... ?


The way most state's burglary statutes are written is along the lines of entering or remaining unlawfully in a building with the intent to commit a theft or crime. They don't require an actual theft.
Yes, BUT it also shows he took nothing. The home owner stated they had never called cops or reported any issue.
And lets be real if you could hunt people down for snooping around or looking in property windows that are for sale or under construction every "Karen" we know would be shot dead. He "FIT THE DISCRIPTION" of what they thought and that's why it's a crime.
 
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YOU are full of it. He was jogging, and may have been casing houses. He looked like someone caught days earlier on surveillance cameras. Persons in pickup followed him, and jumped him. He had no clue what for, and fought back like everyone else here would. Shooter killed him, without cause.
Jogging... in jeans??? Bro, I run like 15-20 miles a week. Never have I ever went jogging in jeans, never in my life have I seen anyone going out to exercise and a pair of jeans. That argument is media lies.

And yes there is surveillance video of him inside abuildinh he was not supposed to be in and it had happened multiple times and why the community stepped up.

Normal People don't just randomly chase down joggers at gun point for no reason. Thats the media selling the innocent criminals killed by racist theory, which is far from the truth.

Curious to see how this one goes.
 
Medical examiner just said that the pedo's wounds could be consistent with someone who was lunging forward. Prosecution didn't seem to like that and changed line of questioning.
 
Two people with weapons try to chase me down... fighting back is about the most ignorant thing you could do. Suggesting that is a sain reaction is ludicrous.

They were trying to keep him from running away before the police arrived.
This is another example of Don’t attack somebody with a gun then get mad at them when they shoot you.
 
Two people with weapons try to chase me down... fighting back is about the most ignorant thing you could do. Suggesting that is a sain reaction is ludicrous.

They were trying to keep him from running away before the police arrived.
This is another example of Don’t attack somebody with a gun then get mad at them when they shoot you.
Everyone knows you don't draw on a drawn gun,
And you don't try to disarm a guy with a shotgun already pointed at you.
Pulling the gun toward you means that the guy holding the gun trying to hold it back is going to pull the trigger to maintain his grip.... whether he intended to or not.
 
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I bitched an moaned my first jury duty. I went, answered honestly and I was on jury. All I can say is Thank GOD I was. People just were willing to throw the guy in jail based on his looks. I think he was likely guilty, but the prosecution did NOT meet what I'd consider the requirement was to show he was DUI (he did refuse breath test, but the story the cops told as well as video evidence showed differently IMO).

Second trial was even more interesting and more important. None of us thought the guy was going to be guilty...we knew he was a POS. Well, once they read the LAW we were like..oh...guilty....guilty as F...except for one guy (the foreman since I refused since I'd done that before), who needed to have the law explained AGAIN. But even though I was not foreman, I pushed it. It's pathetic. ZERO ability to reason for at least half the jury and probably 75% of jury pool #1.
I was summoned to jury duty once. I cussed out the defense in front of the judge, she started pretending to do paperwork and let me yell at the guy, and the prosecutor got a big smile on her face. You could tell the guy was extra sleazy. I was pissed when I heard what the trial was for and it showed, so they started questioning me for selection.

Tried to tell me it’s normal to molest a child on accident, and how he reaches under his grandkids genitals all the time putting them in a car seat and could “slip”, “ you mean you’ve never accidentally touched a child privates?” type shit. I lost it and started mother fucking him in the courtroom they were questioning us in, told him I’d gladly take the defendant in a back room and deal with it. Told the defense it sounded like he needs to be on trial too. I know people who were abused as children and see how it still has a hold on them decades later.

I have no clue how I didn’t get in any trouble, but I was dismissed before anyone else and gave all the other potential jurors a good story. They didn’t know what to think.



I get some people get accused out of nowhere and it didn’t happen, but the ones with real evidence that shows it 100% happened it’s an easy fix.
 
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The last jury I was on - I had to sit through the entire freakin' trial - then was told when sent to deliberation that I was the "extra" juror and sent home. The bailiff was kind enough to call me at home and let me know what the jury decided. I would rather have been dismissed first!
 
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They deserve to catch prosecutorial misconduct/malicious prosecution cases.
And tarring,
And feathering,
And drawing,
And quartering,
And stocks in the public square,
and the gallows.

(yes, steps 3 and 4 may be a little 'extravagent' but with the miraculous abilities of the medical system, I believe and have full faith that the process can continue to the end)

Time to be a spectator sport, again.
 
If I were the judge....I would certainly do something about the person with a cell phone camera videoing the jury bus stop where they are picked up.

I would have started this trial and said "This is a stack of warrants, already signed. I'll fill out the names and details the second anyone does anything that makes my jury in this case even the slightest bit nervous about their safety."
 
Yeah, I've been the foreman once before when I was younger. The lack of most people being able to apply the law as it's written is pretty scary actually. It's not about what we want or "what should" happen. It's about applying the law and the standard by which it is to be applied.

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Letting the corrupt politicians legal $ystem lead you around like a fucking cow isn’t doing your service to this country, rendering a verdict that is RIGHT and HONORABLE, a verdict representative of the country you want your kids to live in, that is why we have a jury of our peers vs just some kangaroo court of administrative law.
 
If I were the judge....I would certainly do something about the person with a cell phone camera videoing the jury bus stop where they are picked up.

I would have started this trial and said "This is a stack of warrants, already signed. I'll fill out the names and details the second anyone does anything that makes my jury in this case even the slightest bit nervous about their safety."
After all the Antifa threats going into the trial, I’m still a bit surprised the jurors weren’t sequestered for their safety.
 
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After all the Antifa threats going into the trial, I’m still a bit surprised the jurors weren’t sequestered for their safety.
Yep any story this publicized needs extra protection in place. The but easier said than done.

One issue to consider, you lock people completely away from their lives, that too could affect decisions. Example OJ jurors were pissed with how long they were kept from their lives, they turned that verdict almost immediately.
 
The fat prosecutor badgering the "slow" photographer not cool. Guy looks like a bully.

I'd say "...Just because, like Kenosha,- your case is going is going down in flames is no reason to badger me."
 
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Letting the corrupt politicians legal $ystem lead you around like a fucking cow isn’t doing your service to this country, rendering a verdict that is RIGHT and HONORABLE, a verdict representative of the country you want your kids to live in, that is why we have a jury of our peers vs just some kangaroo court of administrative law.

Well, at least that was the intent.
 
The fat prosecutor badgering the "slow" photographer not cool. Guy looks like a bully.

I'd say "...Just because, like Kenosha,- your case is going is going down in flames is no reason to badger me."
Came here to say that. I don't know if he's slow, but he's probably nervous as hell. Probably doesn't help that he's got a giant target on his back for testifying. Prosecutor is just trying to get the guy to perjure himself at this point.
 
Now he's trying to suggest that the guy is only testifying because he wants to be a journalist and get his name out there. Wow.
 
People are beginning to ask why a drone was tasked with this exact location.

The answer is pretty simple - it was locked onto the one armed bandits FBI issue beacon.
John has a long moustache.... ;)


Documents indicate that PRISM is "the number one source of raw intelligence used for NSA analytic reports", and it accounts for 91% of the NSA's internet traffic acquired under FISA section 702 authority."[15][16] The leaked information came after the revelation that the FISA Court had been ordering a subsidiary of telecommunications company Verizon Communications to turn over logs tracking all of its customers' telephone calls to the NSA.[17][18]
 
Yes, BUT it also shows he took nothing. The home owner stated they had never called cops or reported any issue.
And lets be real if you could hunt people down for snooping around or looking in property windows that are for sale or under construction every "Karen" we know would be shot dead. He "FIT THE DISCRIPTION" of what they thought and that's why it's a crime.
Horseshit

"every "Karen" we know would be shot dead"

.....if they start a fight with the homeowner and try to take their weapon instead of stopping and waiting for the police, who had been called, to arrive.


Or
if you're just an innocent rubbernecker, just tell them "hi, I'm your neighbor Joe Bob Smith or I'm a realestate investor or I'm looking to buy a house here how do like the neighborhood or Cool, I see you've got this neighborhood watch thing on lock or.......
 
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The fat prosecutor badgering the "slow" photographer not cool. Guy looks like a bully.

I'd say "...Just because, like Kenosha,- your case is going is going down in flames is no reason to badger me."
The police station is smashed up... Popo can’t even defend/protect the cop shop, and you want me to testify against these people. I don’t think he was slow, I think he was legit scared.
 
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Letting the corrupt politicians legal $ystem lead you around like a fucking cow isn’t doing your service to this country, rendering a verdict that is RIGHT and HONORABLE, a verdict representative of the country you want your kids to live in, that is why we have a jury of our peers vs just some kangaroo court of administrative law.
What are you talking about??? Let's just all make up the laws as we go then right???? Try getting 12 people to agree on what's right and honorable. This is absolute LA LA land. The law provides how we are to judge things as a juror. We then use our good sense and the law provides for extenuating circumstances as well. Applying the law (which is made by who we elect by the way) is how its supposed to work. I don't want jurors to have the power to just decide if they think something is right or honorable. I want them to apply the law, otherwise, we don't have any rules to go by. That's a very nieve perspective.

Let me ask you this, do you think the social justice warriors or even the white females who keep electing politicians that suffer that nonsense, are going to have the same view of "what's right and honorable" as you and I do? (I feel sure that we would agree on every single individual circumstance on what is right and honorable). I'm also sure that there's a fair amount of folks out there who think taking what I have earned and giving it away to illegals, and Americans who are able and simply refuse to work "is right and honorable". I certainly do NOT feel that it is. We know there's plenty who think it's "right" to let boys dress up as girls and go in the girls bathroom with our daughters.... I sure as hell don't!

I could go on and on. This is why "right and honorable " is not a way to apply law.


That said, don't get me wrong here, if some dad kills a guy who raped his daughter in a fit of rage when he finds out and I'm on that jury.... he's going to walk.
 
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Fatso is trying to get him to walk back that they menaced/intimidated him in the interview by menacing him again on the stand. Bold move Cotton.

"Say to the judge we are good buddies who were just messing around. SAY. IT."

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That said, don't get me wrong here, if some dad kills a guy who raped his daughter in a fit of rage when he finds out and I'm on that jury.... he's going to walk.
Then you find out he killed the wrong person…or the daughter lied….then you stole justice from a victim, but you were too busy making emotional decisions like the people you criticize, because the crime is a rape and not a defense case. Gtfoh.
 
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Letting the corrupt politicians legal $ystem lead you around like a fucking cow isn’t doing your service to this country, rendering a verdict that is RIGHT and HONORABLE, a verdict representative of the country you want your kids to live in, that is why we have a jury of our peers vs just some kangaroo court of administrative law.

Your idiocy never ceases to amaze me
 
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Then you find out he killed the wrong person…or the daughter lied….then you stole justice from a victim, but you were too busy making emotional decisions like the people you criticize, because the crime is a rape and not a defense case. Gtfoh.
You assumed a whole lot right there and I can't really take this serious. This fake scenario where the guy on trial killed the wrong guy blah blah blah is just too much and your post is ridiculous
 


One way or another, this case is historical. Let's hope it's because it's a case study in everything you can do wrong as a prosecutor, and not about how you can lead a horse/jury to water, but you can't make them drink.
 


One way or another, this case is historical. Let's hope it's because it's a case study in everything you can do wrong as a prosecutor, and not about how you can lead a horse/jury to water, but you can't make them drink.

Is there really any way all 12 people on that jury are scared enough or stupid enough to convict this kid after all of this? I mean, I know our country is in serious trouble morally and every which way you can imagine...... but I just can't imagine a guilty verdict here. As I said before, with such a large amount of evidence in Kyle's favor, even having this trial is a tragedy.
 
You assumed a whole lot right there and I can't really take this serious. This fake scenario where the guy on trial killed the wrong guy blah blah blah is just too much and your post is ridiculous
The fake scenario? You mean a possibility that you are clearly are just brushing aside? Please. YOU presume too much. The whole point of a trial is to figure out a presented scenario, you fucking idiot.

Talking shit about how people on jury’s need to know and follow the law, but then a if man is accused of murder in a particular circumstance is somehow immediately justifiable without any proof, presentation or some fucking forethought into what you’re doing. Then you admit a particular bias on a open forum that contradicts your statement. Sure buddy.

You’re exactly what’s wrong with jurors and you reenforces the points that most jurors are fucking morons.
 
The fake scenario? You mean a possibility that you are clearly are just brushing aside? Please. YOU presume too much. The whole point of a trial is to figure out a presented scenario, you fucking idiot.

Talking shit about how people on jury’s need to know and follow the law, but then a if man is accused of murder in a particular circumstance is somehow immediately justifiable without any proof, presentation or some fucking forethought into what you’re doing. Then you admit a particular bias on a open forum that contradicts your statement. Sure buddy.

You’re exactly what’s wrong with jurors and you reenforces the points that most jurors are fucking morons.
Man you need to settle down... I didn't go into all the possible aspects of this fictional case and this whole exercise is ridiculous.... that said, yes I do admit a particular bias against rapist. Of course, if the guy on trial did in fact kill the wrong guy, then he's going to prison for murder, OBVIOUSLY. Of course my initial statement took for granted that the rapist was in fact, who got killed, and that they rape was known and confirmed. You can literally take any statement from say "well what if this happened?" and then obviously the outcome would change. I mean hells bells, what if the guy who killed the rapist wasn't the real killer.....what then??? If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle....

(Not sure that joke works like it used to given the climate we find ourselves in...

I only added that part as really just a way to say that I agree in principle with the idea of deciding things based on whats honorable and right, but that it simply isn't a standard that can be applied in law.. Sorry it was so difficult for you to comprehend. I guess I could have typed out a longer version and nailed down every fact of of fictional case but I didn't, as I was simply illustrating that I identified with the notion of deciding things based on what's right.. You should either drink less or more.... not sure which, but good luck with all of your future fictional wrong guy got killed scenarios.