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Where are all the employees ?

I hear that. Full time employed as a carpenter, been in the trade a long time. Never stopped working throughout this mess.

Yet, can't catch a fucking raise, and 80% of the crews around here can't get any help......🤔

Electrician here.

We raised rates 30%, gave employees 20%, and had 12% insurance rates raise since last rate change. Company is still going backwards, but we're busy enough to deal with it. Our rates will probably need another 10% this year to deal with 6% on insurance and another 5% for employees or we'll start losing them to competition.


Every apprentice ever. 6 months in they're quitting because it's actually work, or they have to get a daily explanation of "I pay you for what you know, not what you do. Get a license and get journeyman pay. Put in some effort to learn!" Then they quit because they're only making 60% of scale that's now $40/hr + benefits on top.
 
Well now I'll refrain from responding to you utilizing profanities in your post.
I cannot know or empathize with your specific situation.
I would however direct you to your immediate association official of your show locality.
I would however advise you to not use such profanities towards anybody on the show floor inregards to an electrician or the association or anyone else.
Stop
Havent you heard that a pile of vendors are tired of the convention BS and are moving on to other options social media etc ?


You guys will price yourselves out of a job just like you do everything else.

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My dad got run off a site for moving a shovel from the middle of the road to the side so he didn’t run it over “it wasn’t his job”.
I wholesale things.

A retailer I sell to was delivering to a Union power plant construction site.
The retailers truck has a 3 wheeler forklift on it. He wasn’t allowed to unload. Every time he delivered there they would stop for a long break in the middle of unloading. One time he said f it and unloaded the last 2 pallets and the Union scum threatened to blacklist the retailer.



They are lazy pieces of shit. Breaks all the time. Never really working. Sub 40 hour work weeks. Guess what a pile of people that pay for these slugs work 6-7 days, 60-100 hours.

Just another extortion scheme helped along by .gov
 
My uncle told his union to shove it and went to work when they decided to go on strike, he lost a bunch of long time friends that day and still doesn’t care years later lol.


I used to go through union Gates at new jobs all the time, they got all bent out of shape but didn’t have signs. “You need to leave and come in through that gate” yeah, ok..and walk away while they bitch. It’s a fucking gate exactly like the one next to it, your old enough to be my dad or maybe grandpa you’ll live.
 
I wholesale things.

A retailer I sell to was delivering to a Union power plant construction site.
The retailers truck has a 3 wheeler forklift on it. He wasn’t allowed to unload. Every time he delivered there they would stop for a long break in the middle of unloading. One time he said f it and unloaded the last 2 pallets and the Union scum threatened to blacklist the retailer.



They are lazy pieces of shit. Breaks all the time. Never really working. Sub 40 hour work weeks. Guess what a pile of people that pay for these slugs work 6-7 days, 60-100 hours.

Just another extortion scheme helped along by .gov
Waited almost 2 16hr days for a union welder to do a 4” flange....had porosity like a mofo. He had been hit twice already we made him cut it of, magically it was perfect an hour later after lunch. Can’t tell you how many days I sat on site the whole day waiting on some bolts the be removed somewhere, or a single flange to be welded. Only good about those guys was you got a break sometimes when you really needed it, the rest of the time it was annoying.


Plants have the best shitty food, maybe it was the no days off and lack of sleep but it always hit the spot. The Horchata was always on point too maybe we had unions to thank for that since they hung out there half the day.
 
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Havent you heard that a pile of vendors are tired of the convention BS and are moving on to other options social media etc ?


You guys will price yourselves out of a job just like you do everything else.

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Well I personally have never been a member of public union I can appreciate everybody's distain towards them.
You dear \sniper are the originator of this post stating you can't find good help.
I will tell you now and again go to your local hiring hall union pay your bond and get yourself a good employee.
 
The only thing we didn’t get bitched at about was picking up trash, they’d let the cans fill up and the wind blow it everywhere through our sites. I’d have down time, get our bags, and police the area magically you can do that job for other people lol.
 
Hey Mike 47 do you wanna jump in with Deere sniper go ahead and fight me fight me'
Please without any profanity expose upon your wisdom when workingman should not be represented by a nonunion public sector employer
 
Unions.
Straight-up government endorsed extortion scheme. As long as they continue to steal union dues to send to get Democraps elected - it will continue. And if they are funding my enemies to bring about the destruction of my country? They are my enemies too.
 
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Hey Mike 47 do you wanna jump in with Deere sniper go ahead and fight me fight me'
Please without any profanity expose upon your wisdom when workingman should not be represented by a nonunion public sector employer
Because of this

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They just protect the lazy
 
Hey Mike 47 do you wanna jump in with Deere sniper go ahead and fight me fight me'
Please without any profanity expose upon your wisdom when workingman should not be represented by a nonunion public sector employer
Will you be punching me, or will it be another union representative who’s job that is?
 
I think he’s drunk, or had a stroke.
I realize it means I’m missing the fun, but I put my new enemy on ignore to save him from any more profanity.
It’s for the asshole’s own good.
 
Public sector unions versus private sector unions it's all I have to say
I’ll just say this you lose all credibility challenging people online to fight repeatedly, you only do it because they aren’t in front of you. I bet you’re a grown ass old man too illiterate or otherwise.

 
Yes sir undoubtably in unequivocably.
However if the fact remains if you want a good quality employee step up to the bank pay your bond.
This is definitely troll, lol.

There’s no way you’re dumb enough to use big words to try and sound smart, but you don’t check the spelling.

It’s “unequivocally”
 
Somebody needs to start a union thread and take this crap over there. This is not the intent of this thread and as can be seen, there are some highly charged opinions.

Please leave this thread alone and go start your own.
 
Union, union, union. The original “living wage” crowd. The unions are what drove American auto manufacturers to places like Mexico. Turning good jobs into unemployment. You fail to mention that when an employer hires someone from the union hall they are bound to pay them union wages. What’s different with that than these kids who are screaming they need higher wages? If the electrician is that efficient and of enough benefit to the employer, then they should be compensated accordingly, but just because they come from the union hall shouldn’t mean they should all be paid the same.
 
Will you be punching me, or will it be another union representative who’s job that is?
So did our Union advertising shill revert from “sales” mode back into typical Union mob goon threatening violence? Oh my. After pretending to be upset because of profanity too.

They just can’t help themselves.
It’s who they are.
 
Somebody needs to start a union thread and take this crap over there. This is not the intent of this thread and as can be seen, there are some highly charged opinions.

Please leave this thread alone and go start your own.
Sorry @BullGear I don’t care either way, I just don’t like people.

He’s challenging people to fights on the internet, it’s easy to not like that type lol.
 
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Come at me bro what else you got?

Ya'll realize yet that you're being trolled?

Probably not. So, carry on.

It took 350+ posts of reasonably high-grade dialogue that was far more insightful than any snippet on CNBC, but the OP eventually got the shitshow he wanted when starting this thread. Nice work.
 
Ya'll realize yet that you're being trolled?

Probably not. So, carry on.

It took 350+ posts of reasonably high-grade dialog, but the OP finally got the shitshow he wanted when starting this thread.
I mean I called it out multiple times, but I also enjoy playing along.
 
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Hey Mike 47 do you wanna jump in with Deere sniper go ahead and fight me fight me'
Please without any profanity expose upon your wisdom when workingman should not be represented by a nonunion public sector employer

Yeah I'll see what I'm saying here people more cut and paste of bullshit by the un thinking
Poorly translated gibberish from a foreign bot.
 
Sorry @BullGear I don’t care either way, I just don’t like people.

He’s challenging people to fights on the internet, it’s easy to not like that type lol.

You and deersniper and a few others have your faces pressed up so tightly against his that you don't see the big shit-eating grin he's wearing. Step back, give him credit for roping you in, and move on to a productive conversation.
 
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You and deersniper and a few others have your faces pressed up so tightly against his that you don't see the big shit-eating grin he's wearing. Step back, give him credit for roping you in, and move on to a productive conversation.
i told him my iPad is in Braille, obviously I wasn’t being serious. I also responded with Monty python, but I’m the one that doesn’t have a clue lol

I went as far as to translate “you twat” into Braille for the sake of the joke.
 
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Sorry @BullGear I don’t care either way, I just don’t like people.

He’s challenging people to fights on the internet, it’s easy to not like that type lol.

I know, but LL has said that person attacks will get you some time at Banned Camp. Just trying to play the peacekeeper.
 
So what am I going to do
I need 1000 certified electricians
5000 certified forklift operators
1000 certified Riggers
I'm under contract to provide this labor within a one week.
What do I do?
Come on are you smart guys with all the interest in here what do I do?

He'd post an ad or two on Craigslist and then come on here and bitch about how nobody wants to work.
 
i told him my iPad is in Braille, obviously I wasn’t being serious. I also responded with Monty python, but I’m the one that doesn’t have a clue lol

I went as far as to translate “you twat” into Braille for the sake of the joke.

I will admit that during my attempt at playing hall monitor, I might have missed the braille post :ROFLMAO:
 
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