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To Putin, it's business as usual:

MILAN/MOSCOW, Jan 26 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin stressed the importance of ties between Russia's energy industry and Italy as he addressed Italian business leaders in a video-conference on Wednesday despite rising tensions over Ukraine.

 
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Right now, however, “a real demographic reformatting of Russia is taking place,” as a result of which everything and everyone is being concentrated within “a radius of 200 kilometers around Moscow.” Russians are leaving everywhere else. Consequently, within this century, we will see the disintegration of Russia.
 
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Что такое санкции? They don't need our shit. They need very little. This is no different than trying to sanction the Taliban. Yes, it may make things slightly more difficult for the billionaires in Moscow, but not for the millions of regular Russians. This doesn't threaten Putin's hold on power one iota.


Obama completely fucked us with his green, global warming bullshit, and let Russia stick the needle in Europe's arm. Now he's effectively the pusherman and controls their economies, and really, that's all they care about. They have to keep the gravy train rolling. The fucktards have left us few options.
 
Что такое санкции? Depends on who you are. To President Potato Head and most if not all his staff it would be no ice cream.
 
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Что такое санкции? They don't need our shit. They need very little. This is no different than trying to sanction the Taliban. Yes, it may make things slightly more difficult for the billionaires in Moscow, but not for the millions of regular Russians. This doesn't threaten Putin's hold on power one iota.


Obama completely fucked us with his green, global warming bullshit, and let Russia stick the needle in Europe's arm. Now he's effectively the pusherman and controls their economies, and really, that's all they care about. They have to keep the gravy train rolling. The fucktards have left us few options.
Russians take pride in their ability to suffer.

Putin laughs at your puny sanctions.
 
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The reason we are seeing a slight cool down in saber ratling on MSM is that much of Nato Europe are slowly taking a step back , it seems no one is quite buying the ''intelligence'' US and UK are touting ,not to mention Ukrainians are losing faith with Biden admin , puling the Embassy staff and their families and now warning citizens of travel to Ukraine was a step too far in this theatre is hurting Theis Ukrainian bride business and host of other Ukrainian businesses not to mention any foreign investment.

French and Germans
“There is a kind of alarmism in Washington and London which we cannot understand. We see no immediate likelihood of Russian military action. We simply want our interpretation to be taken into account before a common western approach is agreed.” ‘France, like Germany, remain puzzled by USA & UK alarmism'. A source is quoted: 'We see same number of lorries, tanks and people. We observed same manoeuvres, but can't conclude offensive is imminent from all that.'

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov:
BBC: What is happening near the Ukrainian borders? Is the number of troops increasing, are they maneuvering?
Alexei Danilov: The number of Russian troops is not increasing in the form in which many people paint today. Do they have maneuvers there - yes, but they have them all the time. This is their territory, they have the right to move left and right there. Is it unpleasant for us? Yes, it's unpleasant, but it's not news to us. If this is news to someone in the West, I apologize.


Lets just say this hardly looks like 'united front' against Russia, :devilish:
Normandy format talks kicked off at the Elysee Palace in Paris, involving representatives from Germany, France, Ukraine, and Russia. The representative for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says Kiev is optimistic...




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The reason we are seeing a slight cool down in saber ratling on MSM is that much of Nato Europe are slowly taking a step back , it seems no one is quite buying the ''intelligence'' US and UK are touting ,not to mention Ukrainians are losing faith with Biden admin , puling the Embassy staff and their families and now warning citizens of travel to Ukraine was a step too far in this theatre is hurting Theis Ukrainian bride business and host of other Ukrainian businesses not to mention any foreign investment.

French and Germans
“There is a kind of alarmism in Washington and London which we cannot understand. We see no immediate likelihood of Russian military action. We simply want our interpretation to be taken into account before a common western approach is agreed.” ‘France, like Germany, remain puzzled by USA & UK alarmism'. A source is quoted: 'We see same number of lorries, tanks and people. We observed same manoeuvres, but can't conclude offensive is imminent from all that.'

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov:
BBC: What is happening near the Ukrainian borders? Is the number of troops increasing, are they maneuvering?
Alexei Danilov: The number of Russian troops is not increasing in the form in which many people paint today. Do they have maneuvers there - yes, but they have them all the time. This is their territory, they have the right to move left and right there. Is it unpleasant for us? Yes, it's unpleasant, but it's not news to us. If this is news to someone in the West, I apologize.



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“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Putin is well on his way to subduing the enemy.
 
The reason we are seeing a slight cool down is Brandon's plan is not polling well.

Watching the national news-readers as they twist and contort trying to make war look positive, then increasingly pivot to covid and gun violence talking points speaks volumes.

Outside of the media, Lockmart / Raytheon et al and their stockholders, nobody is buying what he's selling.

Imagine if during the Cuban missile crisis if they ran stories about JFK eating ice cream.
 
The reason we are seeing a slight cool down is Brandon's plan is not polling well.

Watching the national news-readers as they twist and contort trying to make war look positive, then increasingly pivot to covid and gun violence talking points speaks volumes.

Outside of the media, Lockmart / Raytheon et al and their stockholders, nobody is buying what he's selling.

Imagine if during the Cuban missile crisis if they ran stories about JFK eating ice cream.
The majority of American's "Can't see the Forest for the "Tree"..... What ever the "tree" may be.... Biden, Inflation, Pandemic, Global Warming, Shortages, Raising a family, educating a child, etc. Members here are a very well rounded group who have lived through all of the challenges younger Americans (50 - 20 yo) are dealing with. We see things they don't see.... And that is our challenge.
 
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Interesting twist:

The US has threatened to halt the opening of a key pipeline that would send Russian gas to Western Europe, if Russia invades Ukraine.
Nord Stream 2 would run from Russia to Germany, and on Thursday officials in Berlin said the project could face sanctions if Russia attacks.
Western allies say they will target Russia's economy if it invades, and the latest comments signal a hardening of their stance on the lucrative pipeline.

 
While ATGM's can take a considerable toll on the armor, Artillery can do more and much faster.

These MLRS launched anti armor cluster munitions can wipe out entire armored formations in a single salvo .

SPBE - "Self-targeting combat element'' , submunition used in both aerial bombs and MLRS rockets in Syria., kinda like GBU-105 targets armor heat signatures each bomblet packing a sensor and an armor-piercing warhead later models also feature built-in IFF so can be used with armor in contact.
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Just a note on any highly technical, or even merely useful item: The philosophy seems to be, They won't issue them, if they issue them they won't let them use them, if they let the m use them, it will be under strictly narrow ROE. Several levels of higher approval to open the box, load the shell, and pull the lanyard...EACH step. Could take all day to fire a single round like that, and by then, well, too late.
 
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Worst President ever. That is saying something after Barry The Magnificent and Clinton the serial rapist/pederast.

If he could even just do nothing it would be a vast improvement. He makes the most terrible decisions conceivable, and no matter how bad a situation is he somehow manages to find a way to make it much worse.
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What the experts say​

Popular disbelief about suggestions of Moscow’s imminent invasion of Ukraine is shared in the Russian expert community. Put bluntly, there is no convincing argument to explain what such an invasion could possibly achieve.

This is a rigorously peer-reviewed source written by academics and analysts, not average reporters.
 

What the experts say​

Popular disbelief about suggestions of Moscow’s imminent invasion of Ukraine is shared in the Russian expert community. Put bluntly, there is no convincing argument to explain what such an invasion could possibly achieve.

This is a rigorously peer-reviewed source written by academics and analysts, not average reporters.
Well sure, but what do they know? I bet none of them have their own TV show...
 
Reforger was a long time ago - the EU took the "peace dividend" and effectively dismantled their militaries while the US played policeman of the world. Trump brought up that the Europeans were not meeting their NATO commitments and he was ridiculed by the Democrats, RINOs, swamp, media, and the Tech Overlords. Seems pretty smart guy now.

"Return of Forces to Germany" was a long time ago. I imagine there is very little if any institutional knowledge gained from it left in the current German military. I think there is a bit left in the US Army. We continued to train at NTC, even thru the GWOT. I don't think the Germans had or have any equivalent to NTC.

And you are 100% right on Trump being correct on reminding EU of their NATO commitments. Trump opponents said "Trump doesn't believe in NATO" when the reality was the EU, mainly Germany, doesn't believe in it (anymore). Funny how the truth was 180* degrees from what Trump's political opponents were suggesting.

Georgia, Crimea, the Donbas and now the Dnieper (sounds like the retreat of the Wehrmacht '42-'44) now remind us of what failed deterrence leads to...

@Mr.BR
thanks for those updates on the German Puma and Polish 2PL upgrades. So we don't need to start doing REFORGERs again, I hope both countries get those programs in a higher gear.
 
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"Return of Forces to Germany" was a long time ago. I imagine there is very little if any institutional knowledge gained from it left in the current German military. I think there is a bit left in the US Army. We continued to train at NTC, even thru the GWOT. I don't think the Germans had or have any equivalent to NTC.

And you are 100% right on Trump being correct on reminding EU of their NATO commitments. Trump opponents said "Trump doesn't believe in NATO" when the reality was the EU, mainly Germany, doesn't believe in it (anymore). Funny how the truth was 180* degrees from what Trump's political opponents were suggesting.

Georgia, Crimea, the Donbas and now the Dnieper (sounds like the retreat of the Wehrmacht '42-'44) now remind us of what failed deterrence leads to...

@Mr.BR
thanks for those updates on the German Puma and Polish 2PL upgrades. So we don't need to start doing REFORGERs again, I hope both countries get those programs in a higher gear.
Why do you think we have Atlantic Resolve. It replaced REFORGER......just saying

Doc
 
Interesting twist:

The US has threatened to halt the opening of a key pipeline that would send Russian gas to Western Europe, if Russia invades Ukraine.
Nord Stream 2 would run from Russia to Germany, and on Thursday officials in Berlin said the project could face sanctions if Russia attacks.
Western allies say they will target Russia's economy if it invades, and the latest comments signal a hardening of their stance on the lucrative pipeline.

How is it that the USA has any saying in that pipeline? If they want Russian oil let them have it. Remove our troops to someplace else.
Why are we supporting the Saudi oil? What do they have that keeps us as their whipping boy?
 
How is it that the USA has any saying in that pipeline? If they want Russian oil let them have it. Remove our troops to someplace else.
Why are we supporting the Saudi oil? What do they have that keeps us as their whipping boy?
Saudi is about control of trade as it borders access to the Suez Canal, straight of Hormuz. Global shipping choke points. A good portion of the worlds oil supply flows around and through Saudi.

Nord stream, the US doesn’t have much say other, than economic sanction threats.
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Ukrainians are getting anxious over US MSM reporting on 'imminent invasion' , if you look at the comedian president he looks like he's going to blow a fuse any second trying to explain to the presstitutes what is real.

Increasingly the Ukrainians themselves appear to be seeking de-escalation, and are fast backing off talk of military confrontation in the country's east... hence the renewed talks under Normandy format(France ,Germany,Ukraine,Russia) , and lack of any calls to expand the Normandy Four to include UK and US , i reckon even they finally realized,that Brandon's admin would like to bleed them just so that Brandon could pretend to be 'Presidential' on national TV no matter the cost to Ukraine.

Ukrainian President publicly disagrees with false evaluation. He sees no war coming and wants to avoid one as much as possible. Will see it he ends up being removed sooner than later , can't have puppets going off-script. Lets just say that return of ex president Poroshenko into Ukraine migfht be Brandon's admin plan B to change a puppet if need be,

"The White House and its Democratic allies have just about had it with president Zelensky. According to three sources in the administration and on the Hill, the Ukrainian president is by turns annoying, infuriating, and downright counterproductive."
There’s a sense that Zelensky isn’t very good at navigating American politics and is stepping on all the wrong feet
. Perhaps it’s because he is frantically trying to save his own country; perhaps it’s because the former TV star had no preparation for, or education in, geopolitics. It is also, unfortunately, the plight of a country that is caught between two behemoths fighting over its fate. Supplicating while maintaining your dignity is hard enough; doing so while not pissing off your geopolitical backer is harder still.

A call between US President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday "did not go well," a senior Ukrainian official told CNN, amid disagreements over the "risk levels" of a Russian attack.
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Zelensky urged his American counterpart to "calm down the messaging," warning of the economic impact of panic, according to the official. He also said Ukrainian intelligence sees the threat differently.
The Ukrainian leader pointed to a recent breakthrough in negotiations with Russia in Paris, saying that he hoped a ceasefire agreement with rebels in eastern Ukraine would be maintained. He also said the talks between the US, Russia and NATO still had some distance to run before diplomatic efforts had been exhausted, the official said.





 
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Well sure, but what do they know? I bet none of them have their own TV show...
yep, absolutely. the article was interesting because it both discounted the "russian attack" propaganda as stupid.....but it also cast blame at Putin for antagonizing and contributing to the situation. I felt it made an attempt to be objective, which is unheard of in our globalist Pravda MSM.
 
Ukrainians are getting anxious over US MSM reporting on 'imminent invasion' , if you look at the comedian president he looks like his going to blow a fuse any second.





my sincere wish, as far as the USA is concerned, is that all of this fizzles out and Biden is left stinking like shit, from attempting to take us to the brink of a war in order to bump his asshole-party's poll numbers for the midterms.
 
Why do you think we have Atlantic Resolve. It replaced REFORGER......just saying

Doc
Yes, excellent point. But Atlantic Resolve is solely a US effort (right? I'm not entirely sure.) REFORGER had our EU allies right there, especially Germans. And it is a reinforced BCT, small compared to REFORGER. The REFORGER I was involved with (in a tiny way) was a Corps v Corps FTX, 80,000 men, tearing up half of Bavaria (actually they left all the tracked vehicles at home to minimize the terrain impact... funny seeing Humvies driving around representing Soviet Armored Bns).

Not saying we need a new effort at this scale, but damn it, NATO needs a credible force and joint FTX cycle, that involves at least the Germans, Brits, Dutch and Canadians, plus the Poles and our Baltic friends.

But I guess the Germans can't get their Pumas out of the repair shop and they don't like the carbon footprint of the Leopard...
 
my sincere wish, as far as the USA is concerned, is that all of this fizzles out and Biden is left stinking like shit, from attempting to take us to the brink of a war in order to bump his asshole-party's poll numbers for the midterms.
...and then we get some real leadership in this country, the rest of NATO gets off their asses, and they find a cancerous mass on Putin's colon...
 
@Mr.BR
thanks for those updates on the German Puma and Polish 2PL upgrades. So we don't need to start doing REFORGERs again, I hope both countries get those programs in a higher gear.

For anyone interested in Tanks , the Norwegian trials are heating up Korean K2 Black Panther vs German Leopard A7 is an interesting competition of two vastly differing tanks. K2 is some 10 tons lighter than Leopard 2A7 . K2 has a 3 man crew and autoloader for the gun and advanced hydropneumatic suspension.

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Ukrainians are getting anxious over US MSM reporting on 'imminent invasion' , if you look at the comedian president he looks like he's going to blow a fuse any second trying to explain to the presstitutes what is real.

Increasingly the Ukrainians themselves appear to be seeking de-escalation, and are fast backing off talk of military confrontation in the country's east... hence the renewed talks under Normandy format(France ,Germany,Ukraine,Russia) , and lack of any calls to expand the Normandy Four to include UK and US , i reckon even they finally realized,that Brandon's admin would like to bleed them just so that Brandon could pretend to be 'Presidential' on national TV no matter the cost to Ukraine.

Ukrainian President publicly disagrees with false evaluation. He sees no war coming and wants to avoid one as much as possible. Will see it he ends up being removed sooner than later , can't have puppets going off-script. Lets just say that return of ex president Poroshenko into Ukraine migfht be Brandon's admin plan B to change a puppet if need be,

"The White House and its Democratic allies have just about had it with president Zelensky. According to three sources in the administration and on the Hill, the Ukrainian president is by turns annoying, infuriating, and downright counterproductive."
There’s a sense that Zelensky isn’t very good at navigating American politics and is stepping on all the wrong feet
. Perhaps it’s because he is frantically trying to save his own country; perhaps it’s because the former TV star had no preparation for, or education in, geopolitics. It is also, unfortunately, the plight of a country that is caught between two behemoths fighting over its fate. Supplicating while maintaining your dignity is hard enough; doing so while not pissing off your geopolitical backer is harder still.

A call between US President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday "did not go well," a senior Ukrainian official told CNN, amid disagreements over the "risk levels" of a Russian attack.
...
Zelensky urged his American counterpart to "calm down the messaging," warning of the economic impact of panic, according to the official. He also said Ukrainian intelligence sees the threat differently.
The Ukrainian leader pointed to a recent breakthrough in negotiations with Russia in Paris, saying that he hoped a ceasefire agreement with rebels in eastern Ukraine would be maintained. He also said the talks between the US, Russia and NATO still had some distance to run before diplomatic efforts had been exhausted, the official said.






Sounds liked Biden wanted to put troops on the ground and actually a war going when Zelensky declined...Gee, who would have thought Ukraine doesn't want a war with Russia ...
 
Sounds liked Biden wanted to put troops on the ground and actually a war going when Zelensky declined...Gee, who would have thought Ukraine doesn't want a war with Russia ...
Biden needs the blood of Americans spilled so he can boost poll numbers. He has absolutely failed at everything he’s touched so far, and now is trying to get a win by looking tough against Russia.

Thing is, literally nobody gives a fuck about the Ukraine.

ETA: I see fat ass milley vanilli is out banging the drums of war. Must have dodged all the IG complaints to do a public weigh in.
 
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Ukrainians are getting anxious over US MSM reporting on 'imminent invasion' , if you look at the comedian president he looks like he's going to blow a fuse any second trying to explain to the presstitutes what is real.

Increasingly the Ukrainians themselves appear to be seeking de-escalation, and are fast backing off talk of military confrontation in the country's east... hence the renewed talks under Normandy format(France ,Germany,Ukraine,Russia) , and lack of any calls to expand the Normandy Four to include UK and US , i reckon even they finally realized,that Brandon's admin would like to bleed them just so that Brandon could pretend to be 'Presidential' on national TV no matter the cost to Ukraine.

Ukrainian President publicly disagrees with false evaluation. He sees no war coming and wants to avoid one as much as possible. Will see it he ends up being removed sooner than later , can't have puppets going off-script. Lets just say that return of ex president Poroshenko into Ukraine migfht be Brandon's admin plan B to change a puppet if need be,

"The White House and its Democratic allies have just about had it with president Zelensky. According to three sources in the administration and on the Hill, the Ukrainian president is by turns annoying, infuriating, and downright counterproductive."
There’s a sense that Zelensky isn’t very good at navigating American politics and is stepping on all the wrong feet
. Perhaps it’s because he is frantically trying to save his own country; perhaps it’s because the former TV star had no preparation for, or education in, geopolitics. It is also, unfortunately, the plight of a country that is caught between two behemoths fighting over its fate. Supplicating while maintaining your dignity is hard enough; doing so while not pissing off your geopolitical backer is harder still.

A call between US President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday "did not go well," a senior Ukrainian official told CNN, amid disagreements over the "risk levels" of a Russian attack.
...
Zelensky urged his American counterpart to "calm down the messaging," warning of the economic impact of panic, according to the official. He also said Ukrainian intelligence sees the threat differently.
The Ukrainian leader pointed to a recent breakthrough in negotiations with Russia in Paris, saying that he hoped a ceasefire agreement with rebels in eastern Ukraine would be maintained. He also said the talks between the US, Russia and NATO still had some distance to run before diplomatic efforts had been exhausted, the official said.






Yup. Other countries are possibly realizing the US admin is wanting a war to save face at home and willing to sacrifice other countries.

 
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All that means is the Russian Military is run by professionals unlike Miley and some of the punch your ticket shitheads we have in leadership positions. Afghanistan made that crystal clear. You have that many people armed and the possibility some a--hole makes a bad call, you need people with medical skill there too.
 
Ukrainians want pallets of cash instead of palets of missiles near their expiration date (stuff Brits sent is months away for expiring )
The MSM binge of Russian invasion has by now cost them way more than any aid was worth. So Brandon better pony up some shrink-wrapped pallets of cash.

''Economic aid to Ukraine is also becoming an increasingly urgent issue. Ukraine needs as much as $5 billion to stabilize the economy, Zelenskiy said. The hyrvnia has dropped 8.4% against the dollar, one of the worst performers worldwide, since November when Russia again massed troops on the border.

The White House said that on their call Biden told Zelenskiy the U.S. is “exploring additional macroeconomic support to help Ukraine’s economy.”

Maybe the Ukrainian army can start wearing Raytheon ,McDonald s, KFC logos for some cash

Considering that pallets of cash to Ukraine falls under .The Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act

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nothing is happening in ukraine, at least the ukrainians hope nothing is happening. 2008 russo-georgia war over in 5 days.
 
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That was like a looting/raping band of picts rolling across the countryside. That was the Russian military at rock bottom. Putin realized what a horrendous state his army was in from this, and since then they have appearently regained a lot of thier Cold War era discipline.
Don‘t forget the Chechen wars either. Russia can’t help but act like Russia.
 
I have no idea about this but I have been following the whole deal and have a wonder. I wonder what would happen if the worlds largest and most powerful military targeted a concentration of Russian troops near Ukraine and annihilated them. Gave them a warning that massing troops and intimating invasion was simply intolerable and that they needed to remove those troops in 72 hours. And then after 24 hour just annihilated say 100K of them.

What would happen? Nuclear War? Serious question.

VooDoo
 
Russia would almost certainly retaliate against the bases the attacks were launched from, and get the opportunity to test their new hypersonic missiles. Probably sufficiently that the bases would be total losses.

And wouldn't draw as much international condemnation when they did it.

Unlike the Taliban, Russia can hit back and do damage.
 
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So it seems to me that Russia is in control since there is little can be done about it/will be done about it. Pity that. I thought maybe we'd lead the World again and stand up against bullying but it seems we have embraced that concept. Them's who blusters and blows, threatens and bullies, is sacrosanct. Wouldn't wanna make them mad, now would we?

Say goodbye to Europe. Russia will assimilate them because everyone seems too afraid to call them out. God forbid we have violence/War. Just give them Ukraine and quit bitching about it.

VooDoo
 
Given the current administrations track record over the last year, we may be better off letting Europe handle their own shit. At least for the next few years.

Biden hasn't found a situation yet that he couldn't turn into an unmitigated disaster. I very much doubt that Russia is where he'd pull-off his first win.

Between him, Kamala and Milley, what could go wrong? 😳
 
After the current administration's handling of Afghanistan, what country would want our boots on the ground. Not a slam on our troops, but rather their leaders. The 82nd general supposedly gave the Taliban a list of translators and other supporters, in some ridiculous assumption that they would be protected instead of executed. Who wants that sort of thinking in-country? Materiel support, sure. Lob a couple Tomahawks maybe, but keep the politically motivated ladder-climbers out. Imho.
 
Thats a p-39 aerocobra. On of the aircraft given to the Soviets during WW2 lend lease.

correctumundo. They did very well in the low level air combat which characterized the Eastern Front. the germans shot them down in droves, but we supplied them in bigger droves.....along with british spitfires and hurricanes. the soviets produced some fine airplanes themselves during the war, but the German pilots were really frigging good.

I met a bunch of Luftwaffe fighter pilots back in the 80's. Very, very interesting stories.
 
Gave them a warning that massing troops and intimating invasion was simply intolerable and that they needed to remove those troops in 72 hours. And then after 24 hour just annihilated say 100K of them.

What would happen? Nuclear War? Serious question.
This would be like a retarded version of Pearl Harbor.

The only capability the US has to "annihilate" 100K Russians on the Ukraine boarder would be nuclear, so congratulations you've just kicked off WW3 with a nuclear strike.

To say that would isolate the US worldwide is an understatement. That's amongst you allies, nations that don't get along with the US might just say "Fuck it, yolo." before they possibly get nuked as well.

The Japanese targeted Pearl Harbor to destroy America's pacific forces so they could further attack Asia/the pacific for territorial gains.
You would start a nuclear war with Russia because they threaten fucking Ukraine of all places.

Hilarious, but retarded.
 
I have no idea about this but I have been following the whole deal and have a wonder. I wonder what would happen if the worlds largest and most powerful military targeted a concentration of Russian troops near Ukraine and annihilated them. Gave them a warning that massing troops and intimating invasion was simply intolerable and that they needed to remove those troops in 72 hours. And then after 24 hour just annihilated say 100K of them.

What would happen? Nuclear War? Serious question.

VooDoo
That would surely disrupt the money laundering in the Ukraine.
 
I have no idea about this but I have been following the whole deal and have a wonder. I wonder what would happen if the worlds largest and most powerful military targeted a concentration of Russian troops near Ukraine and annihilated them. Gave them a warning that massing troops and intimating invasion was simply intolerable and that they needed to remove those troops in 72 hours. And then after 24 hour just annihilated say 100K of them.

What would happen? Nuclear War? Serious question.

VooDoo
Are you serious or just trolling? Even the “points being raised” about where Russia puts its troops is in light of moral, legal and international relations POV aggression and simply wrong. What you propose is to upgrade “rude objections” into direct act of war targeting foreign army in their homeland and worse being this a nuclear and delivery capable country.
Read again what you’ve written and think about it… Then consider international actions of US in the last 30 years or so and apply your logic to US and what should be done to your country in response if you apply the same standards…
Reading some of your (shit for brains gung ho warmongers) comments im kind of glad lefties have gotten you good and that your country is falling apart and you get to experience first hand what some others had in the last 100years. Shame though as there are plenty of decent people there who really dont deserve whats coming.
 
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