"Short" LPVO's...?

This is a strange way to pick an optic given the feature sets of those are very different.
Also, outside of the clip-on that (as you mention) probably won't happen, how does the extra length affect anything more than the already limited rail space...unless your laser is a Peq2. It seems more sensible to me to opt for a slightly higher mount (and get a cheek riser if needed). And is the 11.5" set in stone? 12.5" barrel with an extra inch of rail not an option?

I can fit a NGAL + RH25 clip on + PLX-c 1-8 on my 10in URX

st1650 said:

I can fit a NGAL + RH25 clip on + PLX-c 1-8 on my 10in URX

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You have any pics?

JWG said:

What all is out there?

NX8
PLX-C
March Gen 2
Vortex AMG

Am I missing any viable alternatives in that line-up? "Short" is 9.5" or less (in this context only). The reason "I care" is because it's going on an 11.5" gun with laser and remote and it all needs to fit sensibly. I also fantasize a bout sneaking a COTI in there, but kinda doubt that will happen.

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A better question would be why NV clip-on when most pure thermal clip-ons are now cheaper (even the upscale ones like the voodoo-s), and will give you a pretty good "greyscale NV" when properly adjusted?

I was originally of similar thoughts, but after pig hunting with a borrowed Bering clip-on, my opinion quickly shifted to NV on the head and thermal on the gun.

Honest opinion here is it sounds like you'd be much better served by a high-mounted red dot or holo and a 5x magnifier. That would allow you passive NV aiming at 1x; then 1x thermal or 5x thermal. Unity makes a thermal flip mount that would give you a "configurable" optics train that is still high enough the RAID would not be obscuring.

So something like a 5x mag on a unity Fast FTC mount, an EXPS or Sig 4T-Pro (or 4XT) on a unity riser, and then a thermal on the CTM mount, raid in front of that.

Then helmet mount whatever NV you like (fused or otherwise)

Vortex made the AMG 1-10 “shorty” for this very purpose, unfortunately the only way to get one as a civvy is to pony up the big bucks and buy a DD in the process.

JWG said:

What all is out there?

NX8
PLX-C
March Gen 2
Vortex AMG

Am I missing any viable alternatives in that line-up? "Short" is 9.5" or less (in this context only). The reason "I care" is because it's going on an 11.5" gun with laser and remote and it all needs to fit sensibly. I also fantasize a bout sneaking a COTI in there, but kinda doubt that will happen.

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I am not going to question your reasoning and motivation. Personally, I really like the ultra short LPVOs. The way I use LPVOs, they absolutely make sense to me.

The first ultra short LPVO was the original March Shorty 1-8x24. That one is FFP only and no side focus. I still have mine and use it almost exclusively for hunting with and without a thermal clip-on. The DFP 1-10x is a better scope, but this one was the first, I think.

I have been trying to convince a couple of manufacturers to explore how short they can make a 1-4x or 1-6x model, but no luck so far.

The further back I can place the clip-on, the easier it is to reach the controls and the better the whole thing balances.

ILya

Decided to try this one night for yotes. 11.5 upper, just a sig tango6t and a 22, a reference, I can see the allure of a shorter lvpo.

koshkin said:

I am not going to question your reasoning and motivation. Personally, I really like the ultra short LPVOs. The way I use LPVOs, they absolutely make sense to me.

The first ultra short LPVO was the original March Shorty 1-8x24. That one is FFP only and no side focus. I still have mine and use it almost exclusively for hunting with and without a thermal clip-on. The DFP 1-10x is a better scope, but this one was the first, I think.

I have been trying to convince a couple of manufacturers to explore how short they can make a 1-4x or 1-6x model, but no luck so far.

The further back I can place the clip-on, the easier it is to reach the controls and the better the whole thing balances.

ILya

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I'd buy a mid tier US 1-6 if it was shorter than a NX8.
Sounds like a cool concept for the reasons you've mentioned.