Anyone thinking of moving from their blue state to a more Free Red state?

My problem is, there is not a whiter and greener (as in forests) state to move to. I hate this states politics and economy but I love the land and many of the people including family and friends...

Wife and I have talked about moving but wouldn't know where to go.
I really love Maine. Lobsterfest, blueberry pie, the lakes, coast, Scandinavian-type summer, nice people.

But then there are the druggies, hippies, leftists, and leeches on society who infect Portland.

Kids are very impressionable and can get off the conservative path very quickly in their teens with all the bad influences that show up in schools and social crowds there. I saw it ruin several lives, including one acquaintance who I heard later OD’d on heroin. He spent years taking LSD prior to that, in large doses, had dreads, no personal hygiene, and very delayed responses.
 
I really love Maine. Lobsterfest, blueberry pie, the lakes, coast, Scandinavian-type summer, nice people.

But then there are the druggies, hippies, leftists, and leeches on society who infect Portland.

Kids are very impressionable and can get off the conservative path very quickly in their teens with all the bad influences that show up in schools and social crowds there. I saw it ruin several lives, including one acquaintance who I heard later OD’d on heroin. He spent years taking LSD prior to that, in large doses, had dreads, no personal hygiene, and very delayed responses.
Portland is easy to avoid for those of us in the mid and northern part of the state, but Bangor is also a shithole. Just a smaller more tolerable one. The only good part about where I live now is I can drive less than 10 minutes and be in rural peace.

Part of our issue the current housing prices are absolutely insane. Everything is at least double what it's worth. Really hoping the housing market falls flat on its face soon. If we had our own place we would be much much better off.

I mention the state being on of the Whitest but the reality is I'm seeing foreigner ESLs everywhere in the Bangor area now. How? Why? There is nothing for anyone here and zero reason for anyone, even from another state to come here unless they're doing it only because the state is still over 90% White and something around 90% forested.
 
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I lived in Camden, which was a great little coastal town. They filmed Man Without a Face when I was there.

Such a great place that would be awesome for families to raise kids there with all the nature, outdoors, scenery, and trees.

Lots of Massholes move up there to ruin it in retirement, and the leftist infection of course has not spared the universities, colleges, and schools.

I worked for a guy whose family had their own 700 acre island off the coast of Lincolnville. Such a beautiful place with many fond memories. I really enjoyed my time there, but the winter was brutal as anyone can attest. Deep freeze, wet, icy.
 
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I was just telling my kids the other day how you can taste the colors of the trees changing in fall with your eyes. Maine is the most amazing place I’ve seen for the fall, hands-down. I spent a lot of time in this harbor in the park and shops, walking around, climbing Mount Battie, and just getting real familiar with the area by walking everywhere for a summer, fall, and winter.

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Portland is easy to avoid for those of us in the mid and northern part of the state, but Bangor is also a shithole. Just a smaller more tolerable one. The only good part about where I live now is I can drive less than 10 minutes and be in rural peace.

Part of our issue the current housing prices are absolutely insane. Everything is at least double what it's worth. Really hoping the housing market falls flat on its face soon. If we had our own place we would be much much better off.

I mention the state being on of the Whitest but the reality is I'm seeing foreigner ESLs everywhere in the Bangor area now. How? Why? There is nothing for anyone here and zero reason for anyone, even from another state to come here unless they're doing it only because the state is still over 90% White and something around 90% forested.
I dont remember if it was Portland, or Seattle, but one of them proposed an new law requiring every new home to allow a 10' strip in front of it for the homeless to camp on.

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I was just telling my kids the other day how you can taste the colors of the trees changing in fall with your eyes. Maine is the most amazing place I’ve seen for the fall, hands-down. I spent a lot of time in this harbor in the park and shops, walking around, climbing Mount Battie, and just getting real familiar with the area by walking everywhere for a summer, fall, and winter.

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It really is. My thought when I visited was "the pictures dont do it justice."
 
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I was driving home from an event in Texas and got stopped for being a bit over the limit late at night. Handed the cop my Oklahoma CCW saying "Most important thing first." We had a nice discussion on shooting, he was surprised when I told him I had just come from shooting to a mile. Handed my licsense back with his card and said "Have a safe trip."
I don't know why, but a LTC permit seems to be a "get out of a ticket" permit in Texas. My wife drives like a maniac, and I've been in the car with her driving 10mph+ over the speed limit and getting stopped. The cop just looks at the LTC card, verifies that it's hers, and hands it back to her with a "please slow down" type of warning. A couple of times, she even got into a short conversation with them over guns when they discovered she was a LTC instructor. Hey, don't get me wrong. We appreciate the heck out of the free pass.
 
Illinois resident here - I wake up every morning and think about moving to one of these states - Indiana, Missouri, Iowa, Tennessee, and Florida.

Only family we have is here and I can see how it’s helping shape my child’s mind. Maybe when the kids grow up and go to college, I’ll be out of here.
Where in Hellinois? I grew up and still have all my family near Rockford. Wife and I have contemplated moving to the southern WI sticks to be closer to family
 
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Amish can get out of control in some areas down there.
Amish come in a variety of colors, exactly but that wasnt my point. It's almost a different way of life, or used to be. I reckon with the internet and mass communications much has been homoginized.

If nothing else the language, accent, difference. I dont know about the PNW so much but I've seen Yankees come to the south and almost couldnt communicate. There's little the same in one from the Bronx and S. Bama, you'se gouye's and Y'all
 
I don't know why, but a LTC permit seems to be a "get out of a ticket" permit in Texas. My wife drives like a maniac, and I've been in the car with her driving 10mph+ over the speed limit and getting stopped. The cop just looks at the LTC card, verifies that it's hers, and hands it back to her with a "please slow down" type of warning. A couple of times, she even got into a short conversation with them over guns when they discovered she was a LTC instructor. Hey, don't get me wrong. We appreciate the heck out of the free pass.

Same in most of Florida. Has worked for me in GA and SC.

Excepting small towns and the occasional ego tripper, most cops aren’t interested in less than 15 over on highways/interstates. Battalion commander told me they cannot enter a five or less over into their ticket iPads or whatever they are.

Gotten out of two tickets at 20 or more over when passenger flashed his badge. Was a passenger when a DS stopped us at triple digits. Driver flasshes badge, cop gives him a “Be careful” before letting us go.