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  1. M

    Night Vision Surefire XVL2

    It’s a 4 in 1 solution. White light, visible laser, IR light, IR laser. Are you mounting it on a handgun or rifle? I found the mode adjustment wheel to be a royal pain the in the butt to use. I understand that it has to be low profile to fit in holsters, but it was the main reason I sold mine.
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    Night Vision White light and DBAL-i2 fitment/mounting

    FYI, for anyone that may search for this thread on a later date. It totally works just fine. You need to leave two picatinny rail slots open in front of the DBAL-i2 for it to clear though. Would highly recommend.
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    Night Vision White light and DBAL-i2 fitment/mounting

    Welp, went ahead and bought an M340 Surefire and a Modbutton Lite. I guess I’ll find out if it works. I’m I don’t respond to this thread, assume that it fit fine.
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    Night Vision White light and DBAL-i2 fitment/mounting

    Looking to mount a white light next to my DBAL-i2 on my top rail. Ideally I’d like to buy a Surefire M340, and mount the picatinny cleat directly in front of the DBAL-i2 on the top rail, but I’m not sure if there’s enough clearance for that. I’m also interested in getting a Modbutton (with the...
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    Night Vision Which tube would you pick?

    Goonin Gear LLC. They have a big Instagram presence and they have a website by the same name. I’m not sure if the higher FOM unit is going to the next in line, but it would be worth asking about. I had less than a two week wait before these tubes came in for me to pick from. It’s supposed to be...
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    Night Vision Which tube would you pick?

    I ended up going with the 2nd tube (clean cosmetics). I know deep down that the blem spot would bother me, and the lower halo and slightly higher SNR helped. It came down to, was I willing to trade a little EBI for a cleaner tube. 1.1 isn’t exactly a terrible EBI either. I live in northern...
  7. M

    Night Vision Which tube would you pick?

    Why?
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    Night Vision Which tube would you pick?

    Both Elbit thin film WP F9400 XLSH tubes. This is a PVS-14. 2511 fom (31snr 81lpmm) .80 halo .39 ebi Zone 2 dark spot (.008) 2041.6 fom (31.9 snr 64lpmm) .62 halo 1.1 ebi Clean cosmetics I don’t have it in front of me, but photocathode sensitivity was ~2400 for both. The zone 2 dark spots is...
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    I guess I should update my own thread. I was able to stumble upon an Elbit thin-film WP PVS-14 with pretty nice specs for $3,100 with only a 4 week wait time. I had planned on going with TNVC, but the wait time is ultimately what made me check my other options before going with them. I”m sure I...
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

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  11. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    I contacted Will (on AR15.com) to see what he could do with my budget. I’m cautiously optimistic.
  12. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    The TNVC premium is definitely a thing. When he said it was from TNVC, and had a spec sheet, it immediately got my attention. There’s a reason they have a 4+ month long backlog when other people are shipping in 4+ weeks. Some of that is just name recognition, but the customer service, build...
  13. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    Neither. EBI for the OMNI8 tube is 1.5.
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    The specs on the TNVC OMNI 8 tube that I have lined up are: SNR:29.7 64 lp/mm (1901 FOM, though my understanding is that a 64 lp/mm could actually be as high as a 67.9, as long as it’s under 68) EBI: 1.5 (not the best, I realize, but not bad) Halo: 0.85 zero blems in zones 1,2, and 3 Seems like...
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    Like I mentioned in the OP, I’m fully aware that Filmless WP is better than Echo tubes. But how much better/worse is the average Omni 7/8 tube? I’m leaning towards the Omni 8 for the low light performance.
  16. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    YOU GUYS NEED TO JUST TELL ME WHICH ONE TO BUY ALREADY! Haha. I wish I could see them side by side first. I’m sure I’d have a preference.
  17. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    Very helpful.
  18. M

    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    I do plan on adding a COTI at some point. I just want the best performance for my money. Sounds like the Omni 7/8 and Photonis Echo are pretty evenly matched according to you.
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    What I’d like to know is at what point spec wise is a Photonis Echo tube with: SNR: ~30 ~72 lp/mm 2000+ FOM EBI: 1.0 (or 0.1 Photonis) Halo: <1 Better than a milspec unit OMNI 7/8? Is the Omni 7 tube better no matter what? Or is the low end of the guaranteed minimum spec not as good as a high...
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    Night Vision Photonis Echo vs OMNI 7/8

    I see that higher spec Photonis Echo is often compared to Filmless WP tubes, but I don’t often see many side by side comparisons between the Echo and OMNI 7/8 tubes. I just got my stimulus check in today and made a point to set aside $2800-3000 for as high a spec PVS-14 as I can find. I think...
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