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Isuzu... dont underestimate them, they are bad ass Hutch

I'm running 8208 behind 175 smk's with very good accuracy with the short ranges that I have access to. With LC brass and COAL 2.810 AND a 20" barrel, I'm pushin just shy of 2400 fps. ES's have been upper 30's SD's consistently around 15-16. Provided I dont try an rush my shots, 1/2 MOA...

with the small rifle primers its a matter of cup thickness and hardness. When playin around with small caliber wildcats, sudden pressure spikes can eat your ass. In that respect, I've grown very fond of cci 450's Hutch

My personal experiences with large rifle primers has led me to believe that the only real difference is your confidence in your loads, ymmv. Now with small rifle primers,yes they make a big difference. But as with any component change, back your loads off and work back up. Hutch

Simple enough then, thanks Hutch

I've got a crap load of LC brass, various year marks. How do I tell match brass from standard brass??? Hutch

I do have a small base die set, but I use that for my pop's M1A NM. Hutch

OK. Here's what I've done. With a different shellholder (the only one I have left now) I've taken my full length die to the grinder. Removed approximently .020 so i set up my die obviously to far from my shell holder at the top of the stroke. I take a new piece of brass, run it into the die then...

Well, I just about fucked up. I took my shell holder to the grinder an took a little off the top. Went back an proceeded to size a case, as I started the up stroke to remove the case the shell holder gave up ghost......Hmmmmmmm, maybe I took a little too much off, lol. Anyhow, when scroungin...

Fish, I'm inclined to think you hit the nail on the head..... One more reason to buy a lathe ;) Hard numbers; all the cases are within spec before and after as far as OAL. I can take a case put it in the chamber, it falls in then when I attempt to close the bolt it gets real tight. Hutch

outside donuts huh... does it effect chambering the round?? Hutch

the shell holder is bumping the bottom of the die As long as the shell holder is square, it dont matter the brand. And yes, not all are equal Hutch

This is the first time I've had an issue with a die not sizing properly. I've used several brands. I can take a fired case and hold it next to a sized case an SEE the difference in shoulder location... As far as chamber issue's, I'm sure it's possible. Carbon build up?? nope. its only had 20...

Milo I know of exactly what your talkin about, but ultimately, the shoulders are not bein bumped back at all, hence causing a headspace issue.... Got a body die comin just to bump shoulders back Hutch

am I sure....hmmmmm no worries, Thanks for the help and suggestions Hutch

By the way...... Thanks for the input guys Hutch

I guess an admin has to approve of my pics first... I'm aware brass gets longer when sized, but it's still within spec after being sized?? I think the shoulder aint bein bumped at all!! period!! and it's pissin me off! All the federal ammo chambered fine, even chambered before full length...

OK, the die has been adjusted from one end to the other, It's a full length die, it aint that hard to adjust. To me, it doesn't seem that the die is bumping the shoulder at all. as evidence with the federal brass which was factory loaded, and fed an chambered fine, no issues. I can take that...

Fellas this is my first post here, yoohoo, ya, anyway... I've got an issue I've never had in the 20+ years of reloading and I'm not sure which direction to go. OK, Background... I recently traded for a brand new remington aac-sd rifle in .308. swapted out the crappy ass Houge stock with a...